October 8th, 2007
08:45 AM ET
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Obama: GOP doesn't own faith and values

Obama told an evangelical church in South Carolina: "I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."

GREENVILLE, South Carolina (CNN) - After speaking to an evangelical church on Sunday in this traditionally conservative South Carolina city, Sen. Barack Obama said that Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse.

"I think its important particularly for those of us in the Democratic Party to not cede values and faith to any one party," Obama told reporters outside the Redemption World Outreach Center where he attended services.

"I think that what you're seeing is a breaking down of the sharp divisions that existed maybe during the nineties, when at least in politics the perception was that the Democrats were fearful of talking about faith, and on the other hand you had the Republicans who had a particular brand of faith that often times seemed intolerant or pushed people away," he said.

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  1. Roy



    Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the LORD hath rejected them. Jeremiah 6:30

    Men (and women) of corrupt minds, REPROBATE concerning the faith. 9But they shall proceed no further. 2 Timothy 3:1 – 9.

    Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
    God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, Romans 1:24

    They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Titus 1:16

    October 8, 2007 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  2. Don Weantchee WA

    What is Obamma's position on abortion? The answer is that he supports abortion, which is killing of the the most helpless and innocent lives.

    Also, why does Obama want to attack inside of Pakistan, even without approval from Pakistan? Attacking a soveriegn nation – leading to more deaths and likely another war front?

    This is a man of God? He can preach to us about the kingdom on earth?

    God save us, for we know not what we do.

    October 8, 2007 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  3. Sam, Greenville SC

    "We need someone for president who can respect freedom of religion and the separation of church and state, such as presidential candidate Ron Paul."


    October 8, 2007 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  4. Will Hanza, New York City


    Help the poor, hungry and sick.

    As opposed to the conservatives who want to not have healthcare for America's poor children.

    What would Jesus do?

    October 8, 2007 11:26 am at 11:26 am |
  5. Wayne, Oklahoma

    Edited away by the CNN Blog Trolls earlier. I will repost again and again until the censorship ends. No Profanity in either post, giving my Real name and a valid email account that I check regularly. so here goes again;

    Kingdom of God, sure, he wants to establish a Caliphate. I believe this weasle will capitulate to the Muslims Fascists and help them establish their global Caliphate. Never trust this person. Or for that matter, CNN.

    October 8, 2007 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  6. Brian, Napa, CA

    Why is it that if a Republican speaks to a religious group it a viloation of "Church and State," but when a Democrat speaks of has a fund rasing event, No Problem?????

    October 8, 2007 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  7. Mike Smith

    It's appalling to see liberal Dem's calling themselves religous. The right-wing doesn't have a brand of faith....God does. However, you cannot call yourself religous if you kill babies and promote homosexuality....and that is the bottom line when we are talkig about the voting 'Failthful'. I find two things hard to believe 1. truly religous, church-going folks vote democrat even though they do not believe in abortion and 2. the black vote abandoned the party that ended slavery against the very poitical organization that was fighting for slavery in the civil war...the democrats!

    October 8, 2007 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  8. Mike,Oswego, NY

    Another politician telling you what you want to hear. Wake up.

    Nothing is going to change.

    Vote Ron Paul he won't lie to you.

    October 8, 2007 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  9. Dave G, Sterling, VA

    It's good that Obama says he's a Cristian, but most left-leaning Christians have lost the 'dual mandate' concept.

    'Individuals' are supposed to turn the other cheek, walk the extra mile, give your coat, etc, but not the State.

    The State (or government) is supposed to 'uphold good and suppress evil'. To expect the Start to 'turn the other cheek' is dangerous.

    Apparently Obama doesn't understand this. As a Christian, I can't vote for someone that will enable the State to cower before enemies.

    October 8, 2007 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  10. Alvin Richardson, McDonough, Georgia

    "I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."
    Christians need to be careful of Humanism. We can’t create a Kingdom here on Earth because we are finite beings. Every man or woman in history who attempted to create “Kingdom On Earth” has failed miserably. Humanism is not the answer. Politicians are not the answer. Isaiah 45:22 says, “Look to Me, and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other.

    During the Jena 6 rally, I head Michael Baisden comment that in essence we should not wait for some “deity” to come down and solve our problems, that we need to do it ourselves. Christians need to be careful whom they jump into bed with.

    Anyone who supports abortion or that barbaric procedure of partial birth abortion will never get my vote I don’t care how Black he or she is.

    Alvin Richardson

    October 8, 2007 11:28 am at 11:28 am |
  11. Tim Slagle IL

    Jesus said: "My Kingdom is not of this Earth"

    Obama thinks he's bigger than Jesus!

    October 8, 2007 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  12. Todd C Cape Cod, MA

    Not a whimper about separation of church and state . . . only if it were a Republican doing it

    October 8, 2007 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  13. Tevye

    Is this man whistling in the wind or what?
    Hillary ate his lunch weeks ago, pandering to the religious right now won't work. Bye Bye Barrack

    October 8, 2007 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  14. Don L.

    So Obama and the dems want to wear the cloak of religion to buy votes. If they are truly the believers they want us to think then let them walk the walk first. Let them declare themselves unequivically anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, pro-prayer and Bible in public schools, etc. etc., just like the rest of us real evangelicals. Otherwise their self righteous garments of religion will be seen for what they are – flimsy transparancies of the real thing. Sorry, Obama, you are fooling no one!

    October 8, 2007 11:30 am at 11:30 am |
  15. Cindy

    What a condescending little prick.
    If a Republican had made that remark, the ACLU would make moves to have them arrested for violation of the non existent "separation of church and state".
    You also have to wonder if is muslim brothers are going to take kindly to these statements or his he really talking about a islamic-fascist state.

    October 8, 2007 11:34 am at 11:34 am |
  16. EMC, Buffalo, NY

    Is the right really that Islamophobic? That uneducated? That utterly intolerant? You're honestly telling me that many of you believe that Barack Obama is an Islamist?

    Do you even understand that Islam and Islamism are two different things? Do you grasp that there is a long complex historical development of these ideas which really abberations in Islamic history?


    Some of you folks really need to open your eyes and your ears – and maybe finish your GED before you make such judgments about decent people and a decent religion which has been hi-jacked by intolerant fascists like yourself. Take some community college history courses. You're all so easily wound up, and your hatred is too easily brought out at the very mention of even an Arabic-sounding name. This is the mark of an irrational fear, which is mixed up with your religion and political views...

    Wow. Some of you righties are real pieces of work.

    October 8, 2007 11:34 am at 11:34 am |
  17. Power, NYC

    Didn't we create the fact of church seperation from State for a reason?

    October 8, 2007 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  18. Martin Fishman

    Obama reminds me of Jimmy Carter,religious but naive.Carter gave Iran a free pass when it invaded American embassy in Tehran.We are living with the consequences of Carter's naive attitude.What will Obama give these terrorists?

    October 8, 2007 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  19. Big Mama's House, Cincinnati

    When will black leaders stop exploiting their own race. Too many black leaders with any type of power, being it music, movies, or politics uses their race to exploit other blacks into buying/following whatever they say. Look beyond the color and start making smart decisions, just because someone is black doesn't mean they will keep other black's best interests at heart. Don't think for a minute that B.O. doesn't know how valuable the black christian vote would be.

    October 8, 2007 11:42 am at 11:42 am |
  20. John, Greenville, SC

    Obama is so out of touch with what the American people need it's sad. Do not get sucked in to his play on religion to satisfy his political agenda.

    October 8, 2007 11:44 am at 11:44 am |
  21. Michael, Menlo Park CA

    Only the whacko lefties are buying this weak religeous act. Oh, and don't make fun of his ears.

    October 8, 2007 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
  22. EMC, Buffalo, NY


    I still don't get how Obama's campaign, here, is a violation of "church and state" – of the first amendment clause that prevents the government from making laws that respect an enstablished religion... Obama is not the "state," and he's not making laws to establish an official religion, or a support an exclusive religion.

    Explain your assertions that Obama is violating the first amendment... or are you guys just blowing hot air?

    October 8, 2007 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
  23. Anonymous

    Separation of church and state is a must!

    Say no to Judeo-Christianity disease!

    October 8, 2007 11:46 am at 11:46 am |
  24. Jordan Orosz, San Diego, Ca.

    Halleluiah!! Another Democratic Party Nut Exposed!! Obama,Commander in Chief? Sounds like an Iranian President I heard from recently. Jordan Orosz, San Diego, Ca.

    October 8, 2007 11:46 am at 11:46 am |
  25. Brian Garland, Boise ID

    What a transparent hypocrit. In his own statement, he does what he accuses the Republicans of doing.

    "on the other hand you had the Republicans (and now Obama) who had a particular brand of faith that often times seemed intolerant or pushed people away"

    October 8, 2007 11:47 am at 11:47 am |
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