October 8th, 2007
08:45 AM ET
11 years ago

Obama: GOP doesn't own faith and values

Obama told an evangelical church in South Carolina: "I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."

GREENVILLE, South Carolina (CNN) - After speaking to an evangelical church on Sunday in this traditionally conservative South Carolina city, Sen. Barack Obama said that Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse.

"I think its important particularly for those of us in the Democratic Party to not cede values and faith to any one party," Obama told reporters outside the Redemption World Outreach Center where he attended services.

"I think that what you're seeing is a breaking down of the sharp divisions that existed maybe during the nineties, when at least in politics the perception was that the Democrats were fearful of talking about faith, and on the other hand you had the Republicans who had a particular brand of faith that often times seemed intolerant or pushed people away," he said.

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soundoff (976 Responses)
  1. Seam, Philly PA

    All the ignorance and disgraceful comments on this post is unbelievable. People are so out of touch and easily influenced by simple things that become so blown out of proportion. Too often, people mis-read, mis-interpret, and are mis-informed. Most of you people need to get a life, but get an education first!

    October 8, 2007 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  2. Chad, Fairhope, AL

    Typical Democrat talking about "faith and values" in context of their liberal agenda...cherry picking scripture referencing "the poor," but avoiding homosexual, abortion, and other actions the Bible stands against and identifies as morally corrupt. "Religion" to a Democrat means nothing more than a big group hug...feels good, but is meaningless in a true spiritual sense. "Faith and values" are no substitute for adherence to the teachings of Jesus Christ. And in the end, that is all that will matter.

    October 8, 2007 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  3. Ken Detroit, Michigan

    Would someone please prove their god exists. If not shut up! These politicians are taking advantage of a society weaned on emotionalism, not logic or thinking. Democracy cannot exist alongside fake religious morals – muslim, hindu, catholic, lutheran or sungod. Ask the pope. Religious "leaders" want money and control for emotional handouts. Its hilarious. Supposedly normal people still give money to and adore a liar pope and church. A) The USA is a constitutional republic, not a democracy. B) Any such republic requires thought, not uncontrolled emotionalism to survive. C) The USA is leaning towards socialism. Hello Hillary. D) We still posess a backwards dark age mentality with modern military technology, a very dangerous combination. E0 read AYN RAND – ATLAS SHRUGGED

    October 8, 2007 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm |
  4. EMC, Buffalo, NY

    My dear Brian Garland – your hostile answer doesn't prove anything. I'll take that as an admission that you can't really explain yourself. I think the language of the first amendment is clear and succinct. Surely, one of your intellect and confidence can muster an explanation which would put me in place!


    October 8, 2007 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  5. Reva, Cincinnati, OH

    Osama Obama is a savior truly sent from God. He will require all of the profits from all companies to go into a national fund to be redistributed to all of us who have so little. We now can all claim the american dream. Everyone can have a home, a car, food, clothing, and all bills taken care of. The fear of doing without will be gone from our lives. Bless Obama and pray for his victory so we can all be without want.

    October 8, 2007 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  6. Joe, Gaithersburg MD

    "I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."


    Barack (Jesus Christ) Obama

    October 8, 2007 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  7. Johnny, Jacksonville Florida

    Until Obama and the liberals stop killing god's precious creations, babies in their mothers wombs, has no stature or right to discuss God. His statments amount to nothing but political posturing. He's an empty suit.

    October 8, 2007 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  8. John D Rock Portland, O

    We were created as a Judeo-Christian nation, praying for the blessings of God. The stipulation was for the government never to mandate any one religion, as was the case in England with the Anglican Church or the Catholic Church in France and Italy. In those countries following that assertion, any following of any other religion was considered to make you a heretic and subject to death.
    The big mistake of our forefathers was the influence of unforseen idiots who read into it so much that was not intended. "Majority shall rule" has given way to every "minority shall prevail in court".

    October 8, 2007 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm |
  9. Daniel

    Bad news for Obama: Iowa has set its caucus date on January 3rd which means there won't be that much college participation. Full analysis of what this means here.

    October 8, 2007 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm |
  10. Nick Shelton, Nashville, Tennessee

    Poor Barack. He is committing political suicide, and he doesn't even realize it. On one hand, he's got liberals who think he's violating the wall between church and state (a concept they don't understand correctly anyway). That's why he's 20+ points behind Hillary Rob'em Clinton. On the other hand, he's got conservatives that see through his religious doublespeak and see him for the phony he is. Here is a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage, pro-embryonic stem cell research, pro-"everything-anti-Christian" candidate trying to preach a "kingdom" on earth. Who's kingdom? His? Ours? What a farce. God laughs at the schemes of men. "He who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord holds them in derision" (Psalm 1:4). I can hear Him now. At any rate, doesn't anyone realize he's Johnny Cochran without glasses?

    October 8, 2007 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm |
  11. Joshua, Rochester, NY

    Just wondering who Obama thinks is going to be "king" over this "kingdom". He's quite the politician! Just stands up and pushes his agenda under the guise of "faith" (faith in what Obama?) Obama, if you're so interested in social justice then stop supporting those who like to murder unborn babies!!! For once I would like to see someone stand up and say something of substance rather than just flapping their gums and blowing hot air!

    October 8, 2007 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  12. mark mission viejo ca

    Kingdom on earth? Matbe he's running to become the Anti Christ, I think Hillary has him beat for that job though.

    October 8, 2007 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  13. Susan Skinner, Ellijay Ga

    I will believe in a kingdom on earth ONLY when someone can do something about places like San Francisco and the Folsom Street Fairwhich openly allow gay oral sex in public where children can observe. Where is the outrage from either party? Behind closed doors is one matter but in public, with cops standing around doing nothing, is quite another.

    October 8, 2007 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
  14. Dan Tacoma Washington

    Unfortunately, Politicians will say opps 'lie' about anything to get elected. The only time you see them with the public is when they need your Vote! The only time they listen to polls is when they are running for office and flip flop their positions based on those polls.

    The American people are too stupid to realize this. It's all about Power not about Representation. Once in office the PAC and the special interest lobbyists rules. With 2 lobbyists for every Senator and Congressman in Office, do you really think that the people are actually represented??? Just look at the legislation coming out of Congress.

    The Democratic Party has been hijacked by the far Left Liberals in the same way the Republican Party has been hijacked by the Far Right!

    October 8, 2007 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
  15. jerry garcia

    He supports GAY MARRIAGE and ABORTION.
    His father was a MILITANT MUSLIM. ALLAH!

    October 8, 2007 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm |
  16. Christen, SA, TX

    I thought Obama's stance was to bring the two parties closer together; it seems he is now intent on drawing lines between democrats and republicans...typical politician.

    October 8, 2007 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  17. Nancy, Marshall Minnesota

    First Amendment: addresses the rights of freedom of religion (prohibiting Congressional establishment of a religion over another religion through Law and protecting the right to free exercise of religion), freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of petition.

    State religion (also called an official religion, established church or state church) is a religious body or creed officially endorsed by the state.

    So, Freedom of Religion... I think people are getting off course. The political candidates are applying for a job, and we the people, as their employers need to look at some of these facts. This amendment was placed into our constitution for a reason. There should be NO endorsement of a religion by any of these candidates because they are to be STATE REPRESENTATIVES. Yet, here they keep pushing their chosen religion.

    Church does not belong in government. PERIOD! The ideals of religion do not always coincide with what is necessary for the health and well being of the nation of people that the goverment is suppose to be protecting. But here we have a candidate pushing for a "Kingdom" in the Religious sense, I really think that if elected, this would seriously violate the constitution. I still stand by the seperation of Church and State. Period!

    October 8, 2007 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm |
  18. Blayze Kohime, Columbus OH

    Actually religion doesn't own moral values at all. I know plenty of alternate religion or non religious people that have equal or better values than many mainstream religious people. Because of that, to me it is really irrelevant which politicians are using religion to control the masses and which are not.

    October 8, 2007 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm |
  19. Mia, Stafford, VA

    In case you forget, parents name their children. Barack did not chose his name his parents did.

    Many people were raised in the faith of their parents, and then as adults made the choice of what faith they would be. In case you didn't know, Barack spend most of his upbringing with his grandparents from the heartland of America, not his African father, who left the family, nor his Indonesian step-father.

    I cannot believe the ignorance. He is the anti-christ, because he wants us to UNITE AND WORK TOGETHER?

    Is there anyone truly happy with the direction our country is going, or currently in? Our Congress can't get anything done, based on this blog racism is alive and well.

    We need someone who thinks this should be part of the platform. Not putting their head under a pillow and not acknowledging how messed up we (the USA) are, with all this hatred, intolerance, and selfishness/greed (sending all the jobs to other countries for larger profits). At some point we have to look inside and decide what kind of person do we want to be, do we want to make a difference, and do we want our country to be a place that claims our foundation was built on Christian beliefs, but spew more hate then the devil himself.

    October 8, 2007 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm |
  20. larry henderson

    He supports GAY MARRIAGE and ABORTION.
    His father was a MILITANT MUSLIM. ALLAH!

    October 8, 2007 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  21. Kent, Hercules, CA

    Liberation Theology, pure and simple. We bring in the kingdom through liberal politics, allegorizing Scripture, highly subjective approach to the Bible. Biblical terms given new meanings. Salvation equals redistribution of wealth.

    October 8, 2007 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  22. Chet, Los Angeles, CA

    "We can build a Kingdom right here on Earth"? A charismatic young leader from nowhere who believes in world government, who swore in on a Quran, in a Christian Church, trying to align himself with Christian leaders?

    Sounds Beastish to me... know what I mean? Rev. 13 anybody? haha...

    No, I'm not saying it's Obama, but it is kinda scary no? Definitely tripped my alarms!

    October 8, 2007 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  23. Gary Lee, San Francisco, CA

    It's disgusting that a pro-abortion (death cult) like the democrats, can speak freely in an "evangelical" "church". None of those in that church have any idea what Godly actions are – what would be the reaction of these people if a republican pro-life candidate spoke in a church? I'll tell you what the result would be: that church would lose its non-profit statis..o well, politics as usual

    October 8, 2007 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  24. Charlie, Denham Springs, La

    I feel sorry for all you Hussein Obamma tag a longs. This is nothing but a presidential hi-jacking by a mole islamist.

    October 8, 2007 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  25. Tony, Centreville, VA

    Obama's "values" are clear. Use the force of government to rob Peter to pay Paul.

    October 8, 2007 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
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