October 8th, 2007
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Obama: GOP doesn't own faith and values

Obama told an evangelical church in South Carolina: "I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."

GREENVILLE, South Carolina (CNN) - After speaking to an evangelical church on Sunday in this traditionally conservative South Carolina city, Sen. Barack Obama said that Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse.

"I think its important particularly for those of us in the Democratic Party to not cede values and faith to any one party," Obama told reporters outside the Redemption World Outreach Center where he attended services.

"I think that what you're seeing is a breaking down of the sharp divisions that existed maybe during the nineties, when at least in politics the perception was that the Democrats were fearful of talking about faith, and on the other hand you had the Republicans who had a particular brand of faith that often times seemed intolerant or pushed people away," he said.

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soundoff (976 Responses)
  1. Debra Springtown, Tx.

    I get so tired of politians finding, and loudly declaring there loyality to religion when elections draw near, but you don't see them trying to defend it at all in every day life, I believe they would all be happy if they could rub it off the face of the earth, but they got to get those votes, and there are enough fools out there that will fall hook sink and ladder for these flim flam con artist every time....I have had it with them all in both parties....there all just a bunch of whiney inmmature babies, and there constant bickering is going to bring about the fall of our country, the children are minding the nursey,... and if president Bush had 4 more years in office he would make this into the United States of Mexico if it were up to him, and I voted for the guy both times! I will probably just stay home on election night 08, because nothing is going to change in this country no matter who is in office, and you people that think it will need to come down out of laalaa land....by the way were is the outrage in this ...you know the old separation of church and state thing,...what I can say for sure though, if it had been a republican we would be deaf right now with all the outrage and screaming we would be hearing in the liberal news media right now concerning the separation issue....what a total bunch of hypocrites, who can't see there own hypocrisy, because there to busy pointing out every one else's.

    October 8, 2007 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  2. Dave Omaha, NE

    Yes, you libs keep giving lip service to "faith" while advocating the murder of babies and the suppression of basic freedoms and maybe you'll all feel better about yourselves.

    October 8, 2007 03:28 pm at 3:28 pm |
  3. kirk

    I don't think republicans have labeled democrats less religious, I think democrat policies have done that and rightly so.

    Sorry, but if you put the convenience of liberal women before the life of living unborn babies, then well, you know, if the shoe fits then wear it.

    Democrats go to church to hear the democrat message, republicans go to hear about the word of God. Just my opinion, but I suspect the facts prove it out just fine.

    October 8, 2007 03:28 pm at 3:28 pm |
  4. Nashua, NH

    Just like the kingdom on earth the LBJ created on the 'war on poverty' in the 1960s that has wasted trillions of dollars and produced nothing. If we must pull out of the Iraq war because it can be won, I would say the 'war on poverty' certainly hasn't be won and perhaps the federal government should pull out of both wars and return to following the original intent of the constitution.

    October 8, 2007 03:32 pm at 3:32 pm |
  5. Nameless, Anchorage. Alaska


    He'll make Hillary a nice VP!

    October 8, 2007 03:33 pm at 3:33 pm |
  6. RH, Brooklyn, NY

    It's funny, all you religious nuts calling Obama a hypocrite because he supports a woman's right to choose. You people don't seem to have any trouble murdering the post-born in Iraq.

    October 8, 2007 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
  7. Roy

    Barack Obama, removing his American Flag lapel Pin, reminds me of Tommy Lee Jones, who as ex Sergeant Hank Deerfield, in the unpatriotic movie, “In the Valley of Elah, flew the American Flag upside down depicting “A Nation in Distress”, when in reality it was his drugged-up bad boy son who became a sadistic soldier when serving in Iraq. Upon returning home his son was killed and cut up by a soldier in his unit who had been his friend.

    After finding out the facts of his son’s death Hank in quiet anger transferred blame to the U.S. Government for “bad boys becoming worse boys” while on drugs in Iraq.
    Sgt. Hank’s son choose to do drugs and choose to be sadistic. If anyone or anything was in distress, it was his family, not the Military, and not our Nation!

    In the future, look for Barack Obama to fly his American lapel Flag Pin upside down!

    October 8, 2007 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
  8. Ayyub, Richmond, Va

    Dave from Omaha, I understand where you're coming from but Obama can't just take away a woman's chose to get rid of a baby of a rapist. If you don't support abortions, think of a law that could possibl be passed like 'one woman who were pregnated against there will by a rapist and such can only get abortions'. I can support that.

    October 8, 2007 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
  9. Craig Kerwood, Everett, Washington

    If a Republican made the remark that Barrack Obama made, he would be labeled a right-wing, religious zealot kook, but somehow Barrack Obama gets a pass on this one...amazing. More hypocrisy fromt the left

    October 8, 2007 03:36 pm at 3:36 pm |
  10. Gary - Covington, OH

    Interesting how Mr. Obama, raised Muslim, is now conveniently a Christian. I guess it just shows how much of a politician he really is, pandering for votes. This man, as well as Hillary, and the rest of the Democratic AND Republican candidates just disgust me. It's really a shame we can't fire them all and start fresh.

    October 8, 2007 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  11. Ayyub, Richmond, Va

    It's a shame how you all think a muslim can't become Christian and the other way around. It happens all the time.

    October 8, 2007 03:41 pm at 3:41 pm |
  12. jack, seattle, wa

    Don't thank God for Obama, pray for him. He just said Republicans particular brand of faith (Christianity) seemed intolerant or pushed people away. I guess he disagrees with Christians around the world. If you want to thank a God thank a nonexistant god like Obama's.

    October 8, 2007 03:44 pm at 3:44 pm |
  13. Brian, Pittsburgh Pa

    It's amazing that when someone on the left makes such religious claims as Obama has, they are praised by the media. When someone on the right makes such claims they are excoriated by the media and labeled as a crazy religious zealot.

    October 8, 2007 03:47 pm at 3:47 pm |
  14. AJB, New Jersey

    It's funny, all you religious nuts calling Obama a hypocrite because he supports a woman's right to choose. You people don't seem to have any trouble murdering the post-born in Iraq.
    Posted By RH, Brooklyn, NY : October 8, 2007 3:35 pm

    If the post-born abortions in Iraq were to stop, tell me, would you then still condone abortions? Or is your comment nothing more than noise to divert from the facts?

    October 8, 2007 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  15. Jeff, Houston, Texas

    Wow. A step in the right direction at least. Maybe one day we, as a species, can stop beleiving in the tooth fairy and vote in a secular humanist.

    October 8, 2007 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  16. Robert M. Reidy N.Y.

    These polls ????

    The story on Hillary right above this one on Barak Obama had 45 hits and this one on Barak has 845 as of this blog.

    Much more interest in what he says, wouldn't you say!

    Barak will surprise many in the early primaries – much money to be made betting this way. He has an incredibly large motivated grass roots organization – never underestimate this

    Vote for the smartest guy in the room!

    Baarock the vote !!!

    October 8, 2007 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  17. Pi

    Bush is the antichrist, and you right wing "conservatives" trying to start a religious war against the middle east are Satans army.
    Do you only know three words? Homosexuals, Unborn babies, and Hussein?
    Jesus would cry for all of you and your hatred that you spread everywhere and for your judgment of all people of the Earth. Take the log from your own eye first. You are an abomination to the very word "Christian"

    October 8, 2007 03:48 pm at 3:48 pm |
  18. Walter Buffalo, New York

    This is not only presumptuous of Obama, but totally unbiblical, arogant and false. If mankind could create the Kingdom of God on earth, certainly he would have already done so! Also, perhaps Obama forgot, or never learned, that the Holy Bible proclaims that pride goes before a fall. I hope you don't fall too hard young man (Obama), but you should not be allowed to drag America down with you!!!

    October 8, 2007 03:52 pm at 3:52 pm |
  19. D.L. Matte, Milwaukee, WI

    I do not rely or accept my spiritual values to be determined by politicians. Morality cannot be legislated.

    October 8, 2007 03:53 pm at 3:53 pm |
  20. Brian, Austin TX

    in my opinion any organized religion should have no claim over faith and values. Both should belong soley to the individual. Life should also be the only thing that teaches us these things.

    October 8, 2007 03:54 pm at 3:54 pm |
  21. RH, Brooklyn, NY

    "If the post-born abortions in Iraq were to stop, tell me, would you then still condone abortions? Or is your comment nothing more than noise to divert from the facts?"

    I never said I "condone" abortions. Do you condone relentless murder in Iraq?

    October 8, 2007 03:58 pm at 3:58 pm |
  22. Pilgrims Progress

    Anyone who preaches and or teaches acceptance of homosexual love as Barak’s Church does, are in no way CHRISTIANS or followers of Jesus Christ. They certainly do not accept the Literal Word of God, but have transmuted the Word of God into a lie, and have become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

    October 8, 2007 03:58 pm at 3:58 pm |
  23. Free Government Cheese Guy

    Mr. Obama, which book are you going to put your right hand on when you have to take an oath?
    Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

    October 8, 2007 04:00 pm at 4:00 pm |
  24. Mark Rhoads, Wesley Chapel FL

    Obama is clearly a political child with "why cant Ihave itMommy" tactics.
    Somday he may grow up, but it is a day far past the election in '08 He's a good looking kid, but he is a kid none the less.. Groping for acceptance among perceived peers without the knowledge or experience to know who they are. He's like a kid wanting to be sure he has the most popular T-shirt logo

    October 8, 2007 04:00 pm at 4:00 pm |
  25. Dave Glick, Lake Forest, California

    Obama is just another politician trying to get elected. Need I day more?

    October 8, 2007 04:01 pm at 4:01 pm |
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