October 8th, 2007
08:45 AM ET
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Obama: GOP doesn't own faith and values

Obama told an evangelical church in South Carolina: "I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."

GREENVILLE, South Carolina (CNN) - After speaking to an evangelical church on Sunday in this traditionally conservative South Carolina city, Sen. Barack Obama said that Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse.

"I think its important particularly for those of us in the Democratic Party to not cede values and faith to any one party," Obama told reporters outside the Redemption World Outreach Center where he attended services.

"I think that what you're seeing is a breaking down of the sharp divisions that existed maybe during the nineties, when at least in politics the perception was that the Democrats were fearful of talking about faith, and on the other hand you had the Republicans who had a particular brand of faith that often times seemed intolerant or pushed people away," he said.

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soundoff (976 Responses)
  1. Dave, Cheverly, MD

    854 comments = Obama struck a cord. Obama is going after votes in the back yards of Republican strong holes. They are nervous and fearful of that. SMART move on Obama's part and everyone knows it. Reach across party lines and bring everyone together to vote for Obama. The Republicans could have learned form Obama by attending minority Debates. Obama The Leader! The only thing to fear is fear it's self. If Obama is THE BEST Candidate, Then he should be President. Enough said!

    October 8, 2007 04:01 pm at 4:01 pm |
  2. new york

    Isnt this obama guy part muslim?

    October 8, 2007 04:02 pm at 4:02 pm |
  3. AK, Rome, GA

    Only the Messiah will create a Kingdom on Earth, and you ain't Him Mr. Obama!

    October 8, 2007 04:05 pm at 4:05 pm |
  4. Eduardo, Seattle, WA

    You have got to be kidding!! Jesse Jackson probably backs him too! No doubt. He'll never get a vote from me.

    October 8, 2007 04:09 pm at 4:09 pm |
  5. Gregg Houston, Texas

    What has Obama done that has been so great? How many African Americans will vote for him just because he is black? Imagine what the world would be like if white people voted their race? Not of us should judge anyone's religion, including Obama's or the political parties. Both Parties are ruining this country.

    October 8, 2007 04:12 pm at 4:12 pm |
  6. rochester, ny

    "kingdom on earth". Where is that in the scriptures? Mr. Obama would be better served if he just came out of the Muslim closet that he's been hiding in.

    October 8, 2007 04:14 pm at 4:14 pm |
  7. Sterling, VA

    Who's the King??

    And by the way, didn't we fight Britain to get away from monarchies??

    No, Obama, the only kingdoms on earth all rise and fall. You've got it all wrong, Senator, but you're pandering to gullible fools.

    October 8, 2007 04:14 pm at 4:14 pm |
  8. MeSoHoly

    "God hates homosexuals"

    That is such a crock and an excuse to hate a group you don't like and still claim to be Christian.

    You get that bible quote from Leviticus. It also tells you to stick your woman in a shack to isolate her when she's menstruating because it's evil.

    If God hates homosexuals, He hates his own creation. Good luck worshiping THAT.

    October 8, 2007 04:15 pm at 4:15 pm |
  9. A. Theist, Sodom and Gomorrah, CA

    Christianity is stupid (see comments above).

    October 8, 2007 04:15 pm at 4:15 pm |
  10. Gregg Steven, Houston, TX

    Must be getting near election time. Democrats are going to church looking for votes. Every time Bill Clinton got busted with a women he showed up in some black church the next Sunday.It must be true. You can fool some of the people all of the time.

    October 8, 2007 04:15 pm at 4:15 pm |
  11. Markus, Pittsburgh PA

    "I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth." So much for that little separation of church and state thing, eh. Any Republican saying things like this would be hammered by the media and every pro-Obama poster on this site. C'mon, you know you it would happen.

    October 8, 2007 04:19 pm at 4:19 pm |
  12. Randy, Seattle, WA

    More vapid "Hallmark card" bromides from a very gifted speaker.

    October 8, 2007 04:22 pm at 4:22 pm |
  13. Ian Fort Mill SC

    Faith? I was not aware that God was for abortion. After all he forms babies in the mothers womb.

    I am ware however Mr. obama is for abortion at all stages-al the way up to full term.

    Now that's faith in the public square!

    October 8, 2007 04:24 pm at 4:24 pm |
  14. ken Pittsburgh Pa

    He is a wolf in Sheep's clothing. Any one can talk. Its what he does and stands for that defines him.

    Luke 6:43

    For a good tree does not bear bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. 44 For every tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they gather grapes from a bramble bush. 45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart[g] brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.

    October 8, 2007 04:24 pm at 4:24 pm |
  15. Joe Fielder , Spring Hill Florida

    Senator Obama and the democrates support their party. That political party supports gay marrage, gay rights, abortions and socialism. So, where is God in the Democratic Party? There isn't one!

    October 8, 2007 04:29 pm at 4:29 pm |
  16. Leroy, Beverly Hills, CA

    Like the other Democrat leaders, Obama preaches about faith but then will go back to the Senate to fight prayer in school, school vouchers for poor kids that could be used at private religious schools, and of course, and any references to God in public buildings or even on U.S. currency.

    Obama just says what he has to in order to get votes. All form over substance. I for one am not fooled.

    October 8, 2007 04:32 pm at 4:32 pm |
  17. Ellen Seattle, WA

    His idea of *Kingdom* is most likely a version of the *Kingdom* of Saudi Arabia. No wonder....

    October 8, 2007 04:33 pm at 4:33 pm |
  18. Roger Tarus

    Obama makes an endrun for the dimwit vote.

    October 8, 2007 04:36 pm at 4:36 pm |
  19. Brian, Austin TX

    Dear Pilgrims Progress,

    It is religous organization that is a self defeating system. People put their faith and values into the hands of the institution of church because they are lost and confused (probably like you). People forget that all those religous scriptures are from a PRIMITIVE time! By taking what the bible, and all that religous rhetoric literally you eliminate what we as people have learned throughout history, and our EVOLVED morality. Religion should just be for moral guidelines. All those psalms are just metaphors and stories to teach you a moral lesson anyway. We all share the same moral goals, and they all (whether you like it or not) are met differently through our own indepent vison. Sorry your mindset is stuck in the 1400's!

    October 8, 2007 04:36 pm at 4:36 pm |
  20. Tim Paul Central, NH

    Mr Bradley Schaubs:

    Before you start spewing ignorant vomit, you might want to study your Bible a bit more...

    You say:
    "Would the Lord Jesus Christ want us to be pitted against each other like we are now? NO! Christ encouraged harmony, and Obama encourages harmony".

    Jesus Christ says in the Holy Scripture:
    Luke 12:49-53
    "I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed! Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.

    I'm afraid you sir, have the little (and ignorant)mind.

    October 8, 2007 04:37 pm at 4:37 pm |
  21. Bill

    What a Joke,,,a Honest Democrat,,,,Get Real

    October 8, 2007 04:38 pm at 4:38 pm |
  22. Infidel1099 Cleveland, Ohio

    Osama....oops, I mean Obama says alot of NOTHING. Typical Democrat

    October 8, 2007 04:38 pm at 4:38 pm |
  23. Tim, Mansfield, TX


    Sorry, you've missed the boat. YOU CANNOT TALK RELIGION, YOU MUST LIVE IT. Obama does not live it.

    There is no kingdom, except that of God & Jesus Christ. It is a kingdom in heaven, not of this world.

    Republicans do not own religion & my vote, but their stance on important issues more resemble Christian values & is the reason they receive the majority of the Christian vote.

    The democrats can talk all they want about faith, but until they understand it is NOT OK TO KILL UNBORN BABIES (among many other failed beliefs they own), they will continue to lose the Christian vote.

    October 8, 2007 04:38 pm at 4:38 pm |
  24. Peace, Greenville, SC

    I have some news for you people. I am saying these things as a Republican who has only voted for two Democrats in 20 years of voting, and as someone who was at the church and heard Senator Obama speak:

    1. Redemption World Outreach is NOT a black church. It is multicultural. That means there are people of many different races who worship here, and we worship together in harmony.

    2. Senator Obama was not 'invited', nor did he do any campaigning in church. He asked to come worship with us, and as an avowed christian (we don't judge, just like the bible says people) and a current holder of public office, he was welcomed with open arms, and allowed to greet the congregation and basically introduce himself. He did not, and would not have been allowed to campaign.

    3. I don't remember anybody complaining when Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Lieutenant Governor Andre Bauer (R-SC), or Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC) were afforded the same honor just a year ago.

    4. Christians, all y'all need to grow up and realize that just because somebody disagrees with you, they are not necessarily evil or the antichrist. Quit being so judgemental and legalistic for Christ's sake(literally) and start praying FOR each other. RIGHT NOW. Don't make me come over there.

    5. Atheists/Agnostics, take a chill pill. None of us christians are out to take over the world, it ain't our job. And by the way, we have the First Amendment right to talk about God wherever we want, even if we hold public office. That violates no constitutional provision. Just ask the Supreme Court.

    October 8, 2007 04:41 pm at 4:41 pm |
  25. Eyes rolling

    Wow 866 comments – mostly from the village Jesus freaks !

    haha..no wonder the USA elects guys like Bush.

    good luck yáll your gonna need it

    October 8, 2007 04:41 pm at 4:41 pm |
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