October 10th, 2007
12:30 PM ET
14 years ago

Clinton leading in three new polls

WASHINGTON (CNN) - A new set of state polls out Wednesday shows Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York, leading her Democratic rivals for the presidential nomination and edging out potential Republican opponents in a general election match-up.

Quinnipiac University polls in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania mirror trends seen recently in national polls. Clinton edges out former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani in general election match-ups in those states, with a slightly increased advantage since a round of polls last month. Clinton leads Giuliani in Florida 46 percent – 43 percent - the two were tied in September. The New York senator tops the former New York City mayor by six points in Ohio and Pennsylvania. The polls' margin of error is just over 3 percent.

The state surveys also indicate Clinton would handily win the Democratic primaries in those states if the contests were held today. How influential these states turn out to be in the race for the Democratic nomination remains in question. Florida will hold its primary on January 29th, a decision that has caused incredible consternation for national Democrats since Sunshine State Democrats are violating party rules by holding their contest prior to February 5th.

All Democratic candidates have pledged not to actively campaign there and whether Florida Democrats will actually be able to seat delegates at next year's party convention remains in question. Ohio holds its primary on February 5th and Pennsylvania Democrats won't vote until April.

- CNN Senior Political Producer Sasha Johnson

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Rudy Giuliani
soundoff (24 Responses)
  1. Tom, Anaheim, CA

    That's too bad. She's a Demopublican and will sit right of center on everything. She'll mouth off about the people's causes but in the end she'll govern to the advantage of multi-millionaires, billionaires and corporation CEO's. She'll continue goverment by the theories of hegemony and the middle class American families will get the bills.

    Let's see if my prediction is accurate.

    America only chance is a strong and truely unique third party OR a "None of the Above" option on the ballot.

    October 10, 2007 03:27 pm at 3:27 pm |
  2. Confused, Cleveland, OH

    Directly from the Qunnipiac University poll analysis:

    "Voters say they want politicians with principles, but they don't seem to vote for the candidates who have them," said Brown. "Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain are considered by far the most principled in their decision-making, but they are both far back in their races for their respective party nominations."

    " In each state, Obama tops Clinton on the question of "principle," asking whether a candidate makes decisions based on what he or she thinks is right or based on what is popular with voters. Florida voters say 43 – 32 percent that Obama decides on principle rather than popularity; 40 – 34 percent in Ohio and 45 – 29 percent in Pennsylvania.

    This compares to Clinton's "principle" scale, negative in each state: 42 – 49 percent in Florida, 39 – 52 percent in Ohio and 40 – 48 percent in Pennsylvania. "

    October 10, 2007 03:37 pm at 3:37 pm |
  3. Ron, TX

    Hillary Clinton's unfavorability ratings are all about 40%. Obama and Edwards' unfavorability ratings run from 22-27% for Obama and 26-32% for Edwards.

    Those are very important numbers. It's also very important to consider that none of the candidates have started campaigning heavily in those three states. Hillary Clinton is naturally the "frontrunner" again because she has the most widely known name.

    October 10, 2007 04:05 pm at 4:05 pm |
  4. Roman Piernick Kaiserslautern Germany

    Let us not forget that is was Bill Clinton the demanded the release of all political prisoners from Isreal. IE Mohamad Atta. And that all the democratic party's decisions will be the beging of the end. Take heed. Bill's wife will be no better. Concerned Citizen

    October 10, 2007 04:18 pm at 4:18 pm |
  5. Jay Boston, MA

    If margin of error in poll is 3% and the difference is 3% then there is no difference. So, in September there was not difference, in October there's no difference... then there is no "slightly increased advantage." Someone needs a refresher in elementary statistics, especially if they're going to report on polls.

    October 10, 2007 04:23 pm at 4:23 pm |
  6. MC Akron, OH

    Polls have consistently shown that Hillary Clinton does not fare well with crucial independent voters.

    Barack Obama does well among independents.

    Really, do you think if Barack Obama is the nominee that angry Hillary Clinton supporters are going to vote Republican? That's not going to happen.

    The Dems will obviously stay united...it's the swing voters that need to be targeted.

    October 10, 2007 04:31 pm at 4:31 pm |
  7. Bryan, Cherokee, Iowa

    GO Hillary GO

    October 10, 2007 04:33 pm at 4:33 pm |
  8. John Adkisson, Sacramento, California

    I am continually amazed that the reporting on these polls only refers to the final horserace numbers. What is important in an early poll is the number of those polled who have made a "hard" decision for a candidate, or against a candidate. The polls I have analyzed in this volatile year, indicate that Hillary's lead is super-soft, because a majority of primary and independent voters have not made up their minds - nevertheless their "inclinations" are credited to the candidate they "lean" toward. CNN– how much reporter time does it take to review the poll findings beyond the first page of "horserace" numbers?

    October 10, 2007 05:11 pm at 5:11 pm |
  9. Ed,Ellenville,New York

    Hillary has an open mind that allows her to respond intelligently to informed opinions. This is something we sorely need in the WH. These three states are not in agreement with the principles of higher thought that are now dominant. Therefore it is no surprise that these polls reflect that her views are in response to the views of the public. Isn't that why we elect someone to represent us? The inverse has been catastrophic with bush and her presidency will be refreshing. I'm glad to see that next year's election will be between two socially liberal moderate New Yorkers and as such the "rev. Haggards" will be excluded. A Hillary/Rudy race has no place for theocrats and neither is there a place in our nation's best interest.

    October 10, 2007 05:40 pm at 5:40 pm |
  10. A. Thomas, New York, NY

    Hillary is WINNING, and the republicans & other dem candidates' supporters ARE WHINNING!

    October 10, 2007 06:13 pm at 6:13 pm |
  11. Bill W, Coatesville, PA

    Has anybody ever participated in one of these "polls"? Does anybody even KNOW anybody who has?

    October 10, 2007 07:28 pm at 7:28 pm |
  12. monica, rochester new york

    Thomas, Hillary is winning what? Last time I checked there haven't been any votes cast. Nobody is whining. At this stage it's perfectly reasonable and responsible to look at the whole political landscape. I know HRC supporters wish everyone would just blindly absorb the top line superficial media soundbytes CNN likes to publish. But sorry to disappoint you, but some of us dig into the data and weigh multiple factors, not just the ones that you think make your candidate look good. If you have respect for an intelligent democratic process you should welcome in depth analysis and acknowledge multiple factors influence final election results. So if by "she's winning" you mean the national polls, then I would recommend you go talk to President Dean about the validity of those stats at this stage of the game.

    October 10, 2007 07:33 pm at 7:33 pm |
  13. sonya, atlanta, ga

    More proof, more reality that Clinton isn't electable from a moderate democrat (also check out Rasamuesan poll HRC has the smallest lead against Republicans, most within the margin for error than Obama and Edwards)

    GALLUP: Hillary With 21% Lead Over Obama - But 'Negatives' Remain

    By E&P Staff

    Published: October 10, 2007 12:45 PM ET

    NEW YORK A new national Gallup Poll of Democrat shows Sen. Hillary Clinton holding what Gallup calls "a commanding lead" over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and the rest of the Democratic field in the 2008 race for president. Clinton's lead over Obama is 21 percentage points in the current October 4-7 poll, at 47% to 26%.

    Former Sen. John Edwards is the only other Dem who cracks double digits, at 11%.

    But Clinton's high "negative" rating still raises concerns.

    Among Democrats that's no problem. Eighty-one percent have a favorable opinion of Clinton, compared with 70% for Obama and 69% for Edwards.

    But among all Americans, Clinton (51%), Obama (54%), and Edwards (48%) have similar favorable ratings, with Clinton's negatives much higher - at 44%. This leaves her, in Gallup's calculations, as just +7 in the ratings, while "Obama has a +27 net favorable rating and Edwards +17 among the general public."

    Hillary is loved by the glee club but not by the high school student body.

    October 10, 2007 07:43 pm at 7:43 pm |
  14. Peter Rodman

    As a liberal democrat the worst thing the party can do is elect Hillary as its candidate. This next election is crucial and I am afraid that nominating Hillary puts the republicans back in the white house for four more years. She has to much baggage and frankly her character and judgement are questionable. Obama may be the most principled but lets get real America is not going to elect a black man as its president at this time. It may happen one day but not next year. If the democrats are serious about winning they need to boot the two front runners and nominate someone who can actually win. My choice of candidate is Kucinich but he wont win either, I do believe Edwards could do it.He is articulate, southern, good looking, and he has a heart for the people. The last time we went on strike he came and walked our picket line with us!

    October 10, 2007 07:51 pm at 7:51 pm |
  15. monica, rochester new york

    Thomas, you should take some cues from your candidate: Time.com "Last week, HRC campaign chair, Terry McAuliffe, went so far as to dismiss polls that have recently put her at a slight lead in Iowa over Edwards and Obama: "I don't believe it. I think we're bunched up there. I think we're in second."

    October 10, 2007 07:56 pm at 7:56 pm |
  16. Rex, Toledo, Ohio

    In 2008, the country of America was suffering from a rat infestation. One day, a man claiming to be a rat-catcher approached the country-folk with a solution. They promised to pay him for the removal of the rats. The man accepted, and thus played a musical pipe to lure the rats with a song into the Potomac river, where all of them drowned. Hillary Clinton is the Pied Piper of the U.S.A. I don't have to mention what her followers are....

    October 10, 2007 08:07 pm at 8:07 pm |
  17. Anne, Cincinnati, Ohio

    Hillary is unelectable. This from a staunch detractor from anything that is currently labelled "Republican." I would vote Democrat, but I can't vote for Hillary simply on the fact that she is unelectable, and by running she's shown her own shortsightedness. We as a country have had enough short-sided, self-serving politicians in office for more than a few lifetimes.

    October 10, 2007 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  18. John NC

    Hillary will fall like Howard Dean.

    October 10, 2007 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  19. FT Doylestown,Pa

    WHY do I feel that this whole excerise was Staged. Obama and Edwards were Just put in as Fillers so it would look better if she beat some one. This has all been staged and the left is buying into this Phony primary. She has it and that's that! Now the only Thing in Her Way is RUDY or MITT.
    Hey guys...check your Breaks and Watch your BACKS!!!
    Well not so Crazy...it's The Clintons .

    October 10, 2007 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm |
  20. Dave, Cheverly, MD

    Ok so now the media has resorted to watching Hillary tying her shoes to give the Media SOME justification on covering her. Bottom line, it was not fair for Obama to get his CALLING right now. NOT Right NOW Hillary. We AGREE with that point. It was supposed to be YOU right now. We have all been there, were you are right now. So we can all sympathies with you. BUT we all have to put out COUNTRY first! There is just too much going on. If we ALL put our insecurities, hate, jealousy’s aside. We can see that the greatest nation on earth is about to show it and lead the world with a candidate that we All can see he was BORN to lead this Nation at this time! You know how we see our baby daughters in diapers singing with the hair brush and we say Oh lord she is going to be some singer or our 2 year old sons playing grab the ducky toy at the bottom of the bath tub with their mouths while holding their breath and we say Oh lord he is going to be some swimmer. THAT’S what we see in OBAMA. ANYONE who heard him speak at the Convention 2004 though t what I did at the time. WHO THE BELL IS THAT? HE SHOULD BE PRESIDENT. HOW DARE HE GET UP THERE AND TALK ALL THAT TRUTH AND HOPE!! HIS COLOR DIDN'T MATTER AS I WAS NOT INITIALLY WATCHING THE TV SCREEN. He just seems born to do this. LETS LET HIM…

    October 11, 2007 12:56 am at 12:56 am |
  21. Harry D, FL

    Looks like the Clinton supporters are SPAMMING the polls again. Oh, look, another poll, wonder who won THAT one? These polls are all fake.

    I think everyone should just be like Rudy Guilani, take a hit off the piece pipe and chill out with the mob.

    October 11, 2007 08:45 am at 8:45 am |
  22. Ivan, Chicago, Illinois

    All those democrats who say they could not vote Hillary, do you expect us to believe after suffering through 8 years of Bush, 6 years of a republican controlled Congress, that you would not vote for the democratic canidate, and suffer another republican President? We're not that stupid you're all Republicans shaking in your shoes knowing that Hillary beats any of your canidates.

    October 11, 2007 05:54 pm at 5:54 pm |
  23. Jerry L. Darquenne

    Great! Just look who you have to choose from on the G.O.P.side? Put all of them together and your left with nothing.All they do is bad mouth democrats,especially Ms Clinton. Don't they have any ideas? The people have had it with thier lies and attacks on everyone that disagree with them. If they have no ideas,shut up. The state where I live went red but not this time. WV is red from embarrassment. Not this time,take a poll. The"people"are mad as HELL at the republican party.

    October 11, 2007 07:17 pm at 7:17 pm |

    Hillary is a dummycrat and a big liberal. She only wants to control your life from the time you wake up. To the time you go to sleep!!!

    October 11, 2007 09:08 pm at 9:08 pm |