October 17th, 2007
12:30 PM ET
13 years ago

Majority of Americans support SCHIP

WASHINGTON (CNN) – A new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll shows a majority of Americans want Congress to override President Bush’s veto of the State Children's Health Insurance Program, otherwise known as SCHIP.

The House will vote on Thursday on whether to override the veto. The poll shows that 61 percent of Americans want Congress to override it, while 35 percent do not.

"The bill that Bush vetoed appears to be nearly as popular among moderates as liberals,” explained CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Conservatives are in the president's camp with only 43 percent support overriding the veto."

President Bush held a news conference Wednesday morning, and explained why he vetoed the bill saying the White House was not engaged in developing the bill, “we weren't dialed in. And I don't know why. But they just ran the bill and I made it clear we weren't going to accept it.”

The program provides health insurance to children in families with incomes too great for Medicaid eligibility, but not enough to afford private insurance.

The Bush administration has decried the spending increase primarily supported by Democrats as unnecessarily subsidizing middle-income people as part of Democrats' "goal of government-run health care for every American."

The poll was conducted on October 12-14, 2007 with a sample size of 1,212 adult Americans and a margin of error of +/- 3 points.

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Filed under: Congress • President Bush • SCHIP
soundoff (89 Responses)
  1. Mark. Shreveport, LA

    I guess the majority is always right...just when the majority supported legalized slavery, or supported genocide against Native Americans, or the internment of Japanese-Americans, or the current Gulf War at its beginning.

    Our founding fathers knew that majority was not always right, which is why we have a republic and an electoral college.

    October 17, 2007 04:09 pm at 4:09 pm |
  2. Sick and Disgusted

    It is IMMORAL that healthcare as practiced in this country is "for -profit." Basically right now if you are poor you are dead!

    Yep, that's Amerikkka!

    October 17, 2007 04:10 pm at 4:10 pm |
  3. Ray, Rochester

    Most Americans are too stupid and/or lazy to actually research and read a piece of pending legislation. They prefer to have it dumbed down to them in the form of some fear-mongering soundbite "Bush is against health care for children!!!"

    Get real people. If you continue to buy into the anti-Bush spin without having any clue what the SCHIP legislation actually does, then you deserve whatever idiotic leader(s) you choose to elect.

    If you got off of your rears and researched this bill, you would realize that it is underfunded after 2011. That funding for SCHIP will drop to 65% of where funding is right now. How do you think this gap will be made up?

    Do you think people will lose their free taxpayer funded health insurance??? Of course not. Instead taxes will be raised.

    By the way, Hillary Clinton and Charles Schumer just porked One Million Dollars in tax money to pay for a museum at Woodstock!! This project was developed by a Republican who donated tens of thousands of dollars to Schumer and Clinton's campaign coffers. How ironic that you Bush-bashing morons don't realize that Clinton and Schumer can find taxpayer money to waste on idiot projects developed by campaign contributors while bashing Bush for keeping children from getting health care!!

    By the way, please explain why the Democrat controlled congress can't pass any piece of legislation outside of a minimum wage hike, and why their approval rating according to Pew Research is 11%. That one third Bush's.

    Love the idiots posting today.

    October 17, 2007 04:15 pm at 4:15 pm |
  4. L. Perry Rochester, NY

    Raising the bar on incomes eligible for the program simply helps sustain a diminishing middle class, who pay most of the taxes anyway. Two points I'd like to make: seriously ill children even with health insurance (typically HMO) can still incur enough non-covered expenses to rapidly drain a family of savings, and parents of retirement accounts. Reducing a middle-class family to a lesser level or bankruptcy just moves the tax burdens to different places to support them. 2- Healthy children have a better chance at being healthy adults, so once again it's just a matter of a tax burden shift- if we don't help our children early on, we may have reduced the capacity to provide for themselves as an adult.

    October 17, 2007 04:17 pm at 4:17 pm |
  5. Doug, Boulder, CO

    There has been a complete failure to admit that the ability of a $80k income family to receive benefits under the SCHIP program would have to be on a petition to the Administration to exceed the normal bounds. I suppose the reason the Administration is using the higher number is because of the high number of exemptions they have given states under the current plan.

    My question is, why is the Pro-Life party not Pro-healthcare to support the life of the children that must be protected in the uterus? Pop them out, then see if they survive? Seems like there are a few on the Right that need to reread the life of Christ and see where his example leads them on the care of children and the sick.

    October 17, 2007 04:24 pm at 4:24 pm |
  6. RightyTighty

    therealist is correct.

    We use to see a CNN/Gallop poll but Gallop pulled out because of CNN's unscientific(corrupt) polling techniques. Look it up..

    October 17, 2007 04:25 pm at 4:25 pm |
  7. demwit

    Oh......, is that what that pollester was asking about.., I thought he was referring to the old CHIPS TV show..

    October 17, 2007 04:30 pm at 4:30 pm |
  8. Dr. Pogostick - Chicago

    s-CHIP?

    So this has nothing to do with Intel or the Pringles Man?

    My bad.

    October 17, 2007 04:43 pm at 4:43 pm |
  9. Peter, Wausau, WI

    *Sarcasm*
    Oh wow this SCHIP program sounds amazing: the government provides free health insurance!
    *Sarcasm Ends*

    Just so everyone knows... it's not free. Even though the government would pay for it, WE pay the taxes that the government would use to make SCHIP possible. Also, knowing Congress, there would be some earmarking of funds in the bill, so it would actually be a little bit MORE expensive than having everyone buy their own health insurance. In short: SCHIP is bad since it's government providing something that people can more cheaply obtain on their own.

    October 17, 2007 04:43 pm at 4:43 pm |
  10. Steve, Sumter SC

    Since no one polled me, I hereby declare that this bill is supported by 0% of Americans.

    October 17, 2007 04:46 pm at 4:46 pm |
  11. Bill B., Columbus, Ohio

    Does anyone know where I can get the actual poll data?

    October 17, 2007 04:48 pm at 4:48 pm |
  12. Dan (Columbia, MD)

    Then this just goes to show that either 1) the majority of Americans are uninformed, 2) lazy liberals on CNN speed dial, or 3) both. I'm betting on number 3.

    Wake up America. A 25 year old is not a child and an annual income of $83,000 is not poor. If this program is truly intended to cover POOR children then make it for POOR children. Otherwise, pack your bags and leave America to those of us of actually work for a living and don't expect government handouts.

    Ron Paul in 2008!

    October 17, 2007 04:49 pm at 4:49 pm |
  13. Jon, Sacramento ~ Ca

    No Demwit – it wasn't the CHIPS Tv show... The question was do Americans like eating "chips" while watching their favorite TV "program".

    When the majority of Americans don't know the name of the US Surgeon General (or that the Dept even exists) but some how thinks they're intelligent enough to comment on complex health legislation working its way through Congress.... the poll is meaningless!!

    Do most Americans realize CHIPS already covers low-income families?

    Do most Americans understand the stated source of revenue is Tobacco tax (until that revenue falls short and then the balance will have to be collected through higher taxes)?

    Do most Americans realize this program covers certain families up to $83,000/year income and individuals up to age 25??

    Do most Americans realize the long-term cost of this program after illegal immigrants are granted amnesty and ALL their kids qualify?

    Do most Americans understand how much MORE troubles we'll have with illegal immigration by these give-away programs (Amigo – make it into America, have a baby, and presto – free healthcare and citizenship)?

    Yeah – keep up the good work, CNN, on your opinion polls!!

    October 17, 2007 04:51 pm at 4:51 pm |
  14. Carlos Patino Jacksonville Florida

    If the president had not walked away from the table he would have been part of the process and he wouldn't be stating things that aren't accurate about the bill. I support an override.

    October 17, 2007 04:52 pm at 4:52 pm |
  15. Wynter, Loudon, NH

    To those that don't know... SCHIP has been around for awhile. It provides important coverage for low income children that can't afford health insurance. What this bill in congress is for is to supplement SCHIP's funding to meet it's current funding needs. Lately, it has been lacking enough funds to cover it's current applicants and has had to turn away many children in need. This bill meets those needs and covers those children they have had to turn away.

    While Bush has been turning a blind eye to the domestic problems of our children, the democrats in congress have negotiated this bill to meet the needs of an important program. People are mislabeling this as an attempt to expand government in healthcare, but I feel its simply supporting those that desperately need our support in this country.. our children.

    Telling it like I see it,
    Wynter

    October 17, 2007 05:45 pm at 5:45 pm |
  16. Steven Bracewell, Live Oak, FL

    I'm ashamed to even call George Bush our President. To think the billions of dollars going to an unwarranted war in Irag could be used to provide insurance for our children. This president's legacy will most certainly be one of a "War Monger"!! Please, Senator Clinton, stay on course so that these last 7 years can be put to rest in January 2009.

    October 17, 2007 07:34 pm at 7:34 pm |
  17. Albee Darned, Dallas, TX

    ....."The Bush administration has decried the spending increase primarily supported by Democrats as unnecessarily subsidizing middle-income people as part of Democrats' "goal of government-run health care for every American."

    The poll was conducted on October 12-14, 2007 with a sample size of 1,212 adult Americans and a margin of error of +/- 3 points.

    Are these the same 1,212 who thought Less than a third want all illegal immigrants out ?

    Who did they poll – illegal immigrants?

    October 17, 2007 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  18. James, Phoenix AZ

    CNN OPINION POLL – same one used for all of todays articles:

    Hillary trouncing Obama (1212 participants)

    American's Supporting Illegals Staying (1212 participants)

    American's Supporting SCHIP (1212 participants)

    The marigin of error is 6.5% (that's HUGE in the world of polling). For each of these various topics – you get the same ideological result (Pro Hillary, Pro Illegal Immigrant, Pro Free Healthcare).

    A biased poll for a biased network!

    SHAME ON YOU, CNN

    October 17, 2007 07:51 pm at 7:51 pm |
  19. R.Jones, Marion, MA

    Funny thing is that Medicare is the biggest socialized medical program out there. Many middle class and wealthy seniors get free hospitalization and nearly free doctors visits in addition to a newly added benefit of subsidized prescription coverage.

    Not sure why everyone is so paranoid about socialized medicine when WE ALREADY HAVE IT FOR SENIORS! And not just the poor ones but the rich ones too. God forbid we want to provide uninsured children a shard of the same fat benefits we allow seniors. insured children a crack at subsidized coverage

    As the baby boomers suck up more of the resources for health care in this country we are going to be forced to pit younger generations against older generations. We cannot go on giving and giving and giving freebies to seniors while saying "no" to others.

    October 17, 2007 07:56 pm at 7:56 pm |
  20. john williams san diego, ca.

    listen sheeple...your congress persons pay nothing (nada for the illegals, who also pay nada) for health insurance...they want you to think they REALLY care...P.S. his title is El Presidente Jorge Bush, not president bush

    October 17, 2007 07:57 pm at 7:57 pm |
  21. James, Phoenix AZ

    As the baby boomers suck up more of the resources for health care in this country we are going to be forced to pit younger generations against older generations. We cannot go on giving and giving and giving freebies to seniors while saying "no" to others.

    Posted By R.Jones, Marion, MA : October 17, 2007 7:56 pm

    -–

    Good Heavens – do you not even see what you are saying?? Free healthcare to Seniors (retired – no income – no significant tax resource). Free healthcare for ALL kids (young, not employed, not a source of tax revenue).

    WHO PAYS??? – Only the people in the middle – actually working!

    Sorry – this country is acting like spoiled brats. Hearing the word "NO" the libs fall on the floor kicking and screaming!

    How many of you parents would turn over the financial reigns of your household income over to your teenagers to control?? THATS what America is doing (letting those that don't work, that don't economically contribute the significant portion of the country's income (taxes) in control of the purse strings).

    Read my lips: N – O

    October 17, 2007 08:17 pm at 8:17 pm |
  22. R. Jones, Marion, MA

    That is exactly my point James. True fiscal conservatives do not believe in handing over vast resources the way we do with Medicare. President Bush just expanded Medicare to add a prescription benefit. Even without this bloated new benefit Medicare is on track to insolvency in the near future. Gen-X folks such as myself are going to be left with scraps after contributing a lifetime of higher earnings into the pool.

    The responsible thing to do is to means-test people for Medicare. There are PLENTY of seniors who have pensions, 401K, investment incomes, etc. People like to think that all seniors are eating cat food but that is far from the truth. Those that can afford to have higher Medicare premiums and deductibles should do so.

    I doubt there is a Republican out there that would speak the truth and alienate the largest voting block out there....yes, seniors. These seniors feel "entitled" to free health care. Ummm, why?

    Yet the Republican President who expanded the biggest social program we have also has the audacity to say that he doesn't want to federalize health care. GIVE ME A BREAK

    October 17, 2007 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  23. April, Delphos OH

    I feel that poor children should have the right to health care but isn't that what we have welfare for? If every child or young adult from a family that makes up to 83,000 a year is covered, how many people will that be? My husband and I make 45,000 a year. We are fortunate enough to have insurance. So what that means is we will pay for our private insurance, and the insurance of families who make almost double what we do! I find that outragous. SCHIP needs to be improvised if it is going to be passed. The yearly income needs to be drastically decreased, and the age needs to be dropped to primary school age children (K-12). If a child drops out of school, is kicked out of school or for some reason is not in school, they should not be eligable. Wasn't that the primary intent of "no child left behind", kids staying in school.

    October 17, 2007 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm |
  24. JC, Motor City, MI

    George Bush supported an increase in funds for SCHIP and expanding the program. The Dems just went to far. They will come up with a compromise and he will sign it. And everybondy (er nobody) will be happy.

    Unfortunately, everything George and Nancy and Harry need to really stick to each other in the media. It is all very tiresome. Politics as usual.

    October 17, 2007 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm |
  25. Chris, Toledo, OH

    Stop the spread of Communism!

    October 17, 2007 10:28 pm at 10:28 pm |
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