October 18th, 2007
07:45 AM ET
15 years ago
Deconstructing the black vote
Who are black women supporting? Bill Schneider takes a look.
(CNN) - Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-New York, and Barack Obama, D-Illinois, are both courting blacks as they vie for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination. Bill Schneider reports on new CNN poll results about which of the two Democrats blacks are supporting at this point in the race to the White House.
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I guess you didn't read the poll results.How about that?A rerun already!
Why do you make such an issue of what color people are ? I think most people don't care what color someone is. Why don't you quit trying to make such an issue of it. Run an election on the things that matter.
Why are black women flocking to Hillary ?
three little words :
Burqa Hussein Osama
yeah he takes a look alright, playing up Clinton's support.
Never mind she called a black man NAIVE AND FRANKLY IRRESPONSIBLE ON IOWA RADIO.
whatta horrible horrible thing to say. Other blacks may not have a problem with it...BUT I DO
there's a way to disagree with someone respectfully and she went way over the top. But everytime somebody says something about her she and her supporters PLAY THE VICTIM.
Can you imagine if Obama had said she was being NAIVE AND FRANKLY IRRESPONSIBLE if he disagreed with a statement she made before she had time to clarify herself???
I see a HUGE headline on Hillary's lead among black voters on CNN based on just 307 samples. May I expect a headline saying the ONLY black governor of the nation, MA governor Deval Patric is endorsing Senator Obama? Can we be fair and professional in covering Obama headlines?
Superb reporting CNN!! Thank you so much. It's very dark outside in the Northeast. I'm drinking dark chocolate inside my ebony-colored study. Though the walls are brown, the trim is deep black.
What is the "black vote"? Are they so radically different from other people that they have their own special concerns? Shouldn't there be concern for all people by politcal candidates? Aren't there universal human needs that need to be addressed?
I am a blck woman and I am supporting Barack Obama.
i can't believe any black woman would buy into hillary's "im a victim just like you' – we're all victims" schtick. the reason hillary uses that platform is to convince people that they "need' the gub'ment, to make people dependent on the gub'ment and to get votes by telling people they can't run their own lives, they need the gub'ment to do it for them.
We, African people, have different issues that we have to worry about that whites do not. THERE IS STILL RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY, THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH EVERYDAY. I am happy that the candidates are caring about our vote, as much as everyone else's vote. I don't think you have to worry about the same stuff that we do.
There is NO "Black Vote" That’s like saying a Jewish person is running, but most of the Jews are voting for the Catholic Candidate. It just aint going to happen like that! NO ONE is falling for this attempt to steer folk’s views! It doesn’t work anymore!
This is not comparing any Candidate with Dean. But one must ask WHOM are they polling to be this far off the results?
SEPT – DEC 2003 IOWA Poll:
Dean polls 38%
Kerry 17%.
Edwards 12%
Kerry WINS IOWA 38%
Dean Iowa 18%
SEPT – DEC 2003 NEW HAMPSHIRE poll:
Dean Poll 45%
Kerry 20%.
Edwards 2%
Kerry WINS NH 39%
Howard Dean 12%
Edwards 32%
Yes, and let deconstruct the black vote over the last 30yrs too, then it becomes obvious that blacks don't expect much for their vote..
As usual, some real crack reporting by CNN. Thank you so much, Bill Schneider, for pointing out that black women vote both as blacks AND as women. Next up on the CNN Totally Obvious Ticker: Survey Shows Population Subgrouping More Complex Than Previously Thought.
When all is said and done all the Democrats will ban together to vote for Hillary. Then eventually we will be able to get our lives back in order. This is ridiculous the way we are forced to live under the Republicans!
Black women do not like a black woman who posses as better than them – they don't like Michel Obsama because she ain't down as Hillary.
Last time I checked, the color of your skin shouldn't change your views.
Everyone breathes air, drinks water, and bleeds red blood.
This nation will continue to have so called "race-issues" as long as the news media continues to make everything, and pardon the pun, black and white.
Black voters, just like white voters, see that she is the best candidate, period. I hope she chooses Obama as her runnning mate.
I am a white guy who left the city to move out into the burbs and lo and behold there are black folks out here as well.
They play cards, watch sports, do yard work, pay bills, go on vacation, go to soccer games, crack a few beers, just like the rest of us.
Now when we sit down and break bread with our wives and children, guess what, we all talk about the same issues and all want the same stuff out of life. The same stuff.
We do bust each other on our skin tone from time to time, but that is what FRIENDS DO, not black friends or white friends, BEST FRIENDS.
They resent politicians purposely and "supposedly" pandering to them.
I couldn't agree with them any more.
This is what real voters in IOWA are saying:
http://www.iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1296
"Although I'm still a big supporter of Bill Clinton, I don't feel the same way toward Hillary," Boeve added. "In fact, she's at the very bottom of my list, and I can't see how she's leading in the polls. I haven't met anyone who is supporting her, but I keep hearing she's leading by significant margins. Who are these people supporting her, and where are they?"
The voters are asking credibility of polls. MSM, you know the answer.
This poll has no credebility. I don't think black people are supporting her at the same rate whites are, plus with a margin of error at 8 percent I am surprised CNN even had the nerve to make a story out of it. I would bet that the margin of error is even higher than that.
The Only Black Governor in the United States just announced he will be endorsing Barack Obama. Specifically, he made a great point, he said that now is not the time to play favors to friendships and party loyalty. It's time for a new generation to fundamentally change Washington, not just change names, but change paths, change foreign policy, we can't be afraid to talk to foreign leaders. We can't be afraid to embrace comprehensive energy reform. We, as a Nation, cannot stand 4-8 more years of partisan divide and bickering that will inevitably come from another Clinton presidency. Things need to get done.
Of course black women support Hillary over Obama. Black women have been heading black households for the longest and they are smarter than black men when it comes to the pocket book. I am one brother who is not in denial and afraid to admit this fact. Black women earn more per capita than black men in America, and they know much better. Black men should listen more to their women.
Obama should have joined the Clinton team earlier and his continuing criticism of Hillary is starting to make many a bit skeptical of his intentions. Giuliani is gaining in the national polls. Obama knows that he can’t beat Giuliani, but Hillary Clinton surely can beat Giuliani. Obama is just making it harder for Hillary. I see why Hillary feels that it is hard running for president as a woman. Even though her gender has nothing to do with her ability to lead this nation, we still have these men who are stuck on fear inadequacy and insecurity. They just want to stop Hillary, and that is awful. Not that gender or race matters, but I never thought that a black man would make it difficult for someone who obviously cares about all American people. This just goes to show that Obama is just an egomaniac, and we don’t need that in the White House. Hillary is still the most qualified candidate to lead this nation and everybody knows that. Denial will get us nowhere. Supporters of Obama know that he can’t win the general election, which leads me to believe that his supporters just want to see a Republican in the White House again. Obama supporters remind me of the kid that never got picked in a game of flag football, or the one who lost the game for the team if he did get picked. Obama is a Republican-Lite. What is wrong with Obama? No real Democrat would go against the grind and make it bad for the party of compassion. Hillary is the visionary. Hillary has the plans for a better America. With Hillary we will fight the terrorists where they are and not have to declare all out war. Hillary, Hillary, Hillary. She is the most qualified, the most experienced, and she’s READY TO LEAD.
Here is your Criminal Hillary Clinton::
Hillary’s “Crime On Tape” Protected By CA Appellate Court
In a ruling handed down today on whether Hillary Clinton should be given first amendment protection for civil frauds she committed to fund her US Senate campaign, a three judge California appellate panel, including two appointees by Gov Grey Davis who had worked in the same law firm together representing the ACLU, ruled that it would not allow newly released video evidence capturing Hillary in election law violations because:
“Because it would be inappropriate for us to decide on appeal whether Senator Clinton or Clinton for Senate violated federal law in connection with the solicitation of Paul’s in-kind contributions, Paul’s motion to admit a videotaped recording of a July 17, 2000 telephone call among Paul, Stan Lee and Senator Clinton in which they discuss the Hollywood Tribute and his request for judicial notice related to this issue are denied.”
The court also denied consideration (judicial notice) of court testimony by admitted Clinton agent to Paul, Jim Levin, who testified that he was delegated by the Clintons to initiate the illegal campaign solicitation from him on their behalf.
Paul v Clinton will now proceed against the remaining defendants, former President Bill Clinton, Grammys producer gary Smith and strip club owner James Levin, who exhausted their appeals to the California Supreme Court in 2004 and their trial date for March, 2007 will now be reset for 2008 with Hillary Clinton guaranteed by the judge to be required to testify under oath as a material witness.
Blacks should aks themselves what either Obama or Clinton has done for them lately and resist the temptation to nominate a Democratic candidate who is unelectable in the general (both of them).
The dems are deconstructing the black vote the same way their socialist policies have deconstructed the black community, values and family..