Huckabee likens abortion to a holocaust
Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee.
(CNN)–Speaking before a gathering of Christian conservative voters, GOP presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee said legalized abortion in the United States was a holocaust.
"Sometimes we talk about why we're importing so many people in our workforce," the former Arkansas governor said. "It might be for the last 35 years, we have aborted more than a million people who would have been in our workforce had we not had the holocaust of liberalized abortion under a flawed Supreme Court ruling in 1973."
Huckabee also spoke adamantly of the need for conservative lawmakers to show no compromise on fighting for a constitutional amendment that defines marriage between a man and a woman. "I'm very tired of hearing people who are unwilling to change the constitution, but seem more than willing to change the holy word of God as it relates to the definition of marriage," he said.
Huckabee, spoke before the Family Research Council's Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C. Saturday.
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Every screaming anti-choice bible thumper should be forced to adopt at least one child. Period.
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis
This is quite possibly the most ignorant comment made to date by a presidential candidate.
First of all, we are "importing so many people in our workforce" because immigrants are willing to work for lower wages than Americans. As long as Americans demand artificially inflated wages, we will continue to see foreign workers dominating sectors of our economy that rely on unskilled manual labor.
Second, having a larger population does not create jobs. A large proportion of the extra million people would be unemployed. Although this is certainly not a defense of abortion, it shows that Huckabee does not have the economic knowledge, or even the rational thought processrequired to be president.
Finally, the fact that Huckabee would compare the Holocaust, an event of organized and systematic genocide, to abortion, a case of millions of free women making individual choices based on the quality of their life and their ability to provide basic care for an infant, is reprehensible.
Huckabee is more than welcome to attack abortion based on his religious beliefs and moral values, but he should know better than to make such irresponsible, inflamatory remarks. Let's hope that our next president is open minded enough to have a debate about important wedge issues such as abortion, rather than making absolute declarations that will only serve to create more division and hate in our country.
"Every screaming anti-choice bible thumper should be forced to adopt at least one child. Period.
Posted By Jeff, Houston, Texas : October 21, 2007 11:15 am"
Hear, hear! I guarantee this would put an end to the abortion debate. P.S. Jeff, you could also add "and every man opposed to abortion..."
We all started as an embryo.
Leaders say what is correct even if people don't want to hear this.
Sincerely,
You're kidding right Huckabee??
As Senator Brownback has opted out of the Presidental race, I am strongly considering Gov. Huckabee, or Senator Duncan Hunter. I will not vote for any candidate who believes in and/or promotes the killing of unborn children. I have read some of the comments below and they are the same rhetoric and horrible bashing of good people who are standing up for what is good for America. We must protect the traditional family. God's speed to those candidates who are fighting evil with the truth. True love does not destroy mother and child. True love will protect humanity. Thank you.
48,589,993 total abortions since 1973.I don't care whether you are pro-choice or pro-life or whatever. That number is sickening. Our society is deeply disturbed. There is a connection between our inability to collectively preserve our progeny and our environment, both traditionally holy in any society for a good reason: survival of the species.
The major defenses that abortion rights' supporters employ for their arguments are so decidedly faulty that they defy a full critique within a blog. Defending human life transcends religious affiliation. The claim that the pro life cause is a " religious fanatic " endeavor is cheap, lazy, and faulty. There are numerous atheists who recognize, through merely citing natural law and objective truth, that killing an unborn human being is murder. Another patently asinine defense is that unless pro life supporters are either volunteers that serve children in Ethiopa or solve homelessness and world hunger, then they have no valid voice opposing abortion. I am a proud Roman Catholic, and what I find both ironic and sad is that individuals who are committed towards their faith are frequently accused of being strident and unsympathetic, yet the most insulting, ignorant, and tasteless posts in this forum have been from abortion rights' supporters.
You Go HUCKSTER!
I pray for all of you who find sex to be something taken lightly and view life so lowly.
Even in incest or rape abortion is wrong. KILLING is wrong people.
I LIKE MIKE!!!
The poor pro-death crowd on this blog are so sad. Almost none of their arguments hold water. There are so many of them, I can't even begin to address them.
The thing I am getting the most tired of hearing is that "its not a live until it can take care of it's self". Yeah, I know, it is no longer dependent on you. So I guess you think that a 1 year old is totally independent? Take a toddler, put him outside on your doorstep and in 1 week he'll be dead. But hey, you have a right to right? I mean after all, it's your house.
As I said earlier, Sad.
I think he is very wrong on gay marriage and very right on abortion.
If you're about treating people fairly it helps to recognize that abortion denys babies a life. Gay marriage bans deny gay people the same respect for love and joining with another person that most people recieve and sometimes take for granted.
Each of these denials remove something basic most of us can enjoy without the victims doing any harm to anyone else.
This guy ios disgusting. I had family who died in the holocaust, he hasn't got any right to compare ending unwanted pregnancies, removing tiny bits of cell material that can't survive on its own any more than a tumor, clumps of cells that have no sense of self or thought, to the wholesale slaughter of a people. Real human beings watching their mothers shot in front of them, real people turned to slaves, gassed alive, torn from their homes and lives to be sent on trains to be burned alive in crematoriums. His remarks are an example of how far outsdide of reality the conservative religious freaks that make up the GOP base are willing to descend. If he had a sliver of a chance of doing anything but wasting people's campaign donations on a losing bid for office, these remarks would be worth a campaign to denounce him from public office alltogether. As it is he is just another dimwitted religious extremist like Brownback or the Iatollah
Mark Ferbet, What about the religious freedom of unborn children? What is appalling is that our government allows for the murdering of unborn children. As for those who say a woman should have the right to choose, I agree, but she should not have the legal right to murder her unborn child. You could then argue she has the right to murder her born child. A child is a child-in the womb or out of it. This is what likens it to a type of "the holocaust". Quite simple for those who ubderstand.
A typical right winger. He only wants to ban abortion, eliminate rights for all people and encourage gun ownership.
It is only ignorance of what Christ taught that encourages people to impose their personal notions of sinfulness on others through legal means. Religions in general, and the words of Christ specifically, speak to personal behavior. A good Christian should not need anti-theft laws to avoid stealing. Those laws make sense because all of society is more secure and more prosperous to the degree that thieves are subject to criminal sanction.
Would make abortion providers and recipients subject to criminal sanction do any good? Proponents of prohibitions are typically so busy muddling their approach to religion that they never even think about the social and economic consequences. A ban would not eliminate or even do much to reduce the rate of pregnancy termination, though it would create an entirely new class of American criminals. This is good how?
When there are calls to avoid legislating morality, the problem is in recognizing distinctions between personal and universal morality. If your faith tells you to avoid eating pork, then by all means don't eat pork. Pushing for a law to ban the production and sale of pork is of no help at all to that faith even as it is an unjustifiable imposition on people who believe differently.
Given what actually happens when abortion policy changes, with good examples to be seen in recent history from Eastern Europe, there is no reason to see a ban like this as anything other than the imposition of religious belief on a nation that was predicated on preventing just that sort of imposition. People who seriously want to reduce the number of abortions may push for stronger maternity laws, more economic support for new mothers, etc. People who push for an outright ban instead may think they are "saving babies," but in reality they are simply being cruel for the sake of being cruel . . . all because their hatred is shutting out the application of reason to the cause of reducing the rate of American abortions.
The Loony Toon speaks!
The majority of CNN listeners and readers undoubtedly refuse to face the fact that life begins at conception. The word abortion does not absolve the mothers role in killing the unborn child. Also, it is amazing that abortion supporters react so angrily by personally attacking those that beleive as Huckabee does. Bottom line, abortion is in fact ending life regardless of any extenuating circumstances, views or rationalizations.
The definition of a holocaust is the complete destruction of somthing or someone, usually by fire. Hence, tearing apart a helpless baby, yes the baby is literally torn apart during an abortion, and the mortal remains are usually incinerated, is by definition a holocaust and an abomination before God. Pro-abortion-people say what you may now but God will hold you accountable for the complete destruction of millions of innocent souls on judgement day. Thus, seek God's mercy now before it is to late.
No scripture speaks to this issue. It is all well and good if some priests and their followers choose to believe that an invisible unmeasurable spark of divine magic is placed in human blastocysts during the process of fertilization. However, the only thing that passes for evidence on this is theological assertion.
For the most part it is pure willful blindness from people without enough love of Christ to let his words speak to them louder than the voices of angry intolerant fundamentalists. However, even for the good folks who are driven by love and not hate on this issue, it remains an article of theology rather than anything remotely resembling verifiable fact.
The very notion of a soul is itself a question of faith rather than fact, albeit that the idea ex utero humans have souls is actually supported in scripture. At what point does it become unacceptable to legislate esoteric theological doctrines - when they sanction polygamy . . . when they sanction slavery . . . when they demand ritual sacrifice of adult humans?
The law needs to be based on something more, or else we are all at the mercy of dueling priests with teachings that can only be verified by blind trust in their connection to God. Making the personal choice to respect the taboos of your faith is respectable. Making the demand that all others do likewise is folly no matter how certain you are that your priest really is the One True Voice of God. In fact, the more sure you are of that, the more likely you are to have lost your way.
In a perfect world there would be no need for abortion... but... this is not a perfect world.
It's murder, it's choice...it's a baby, it's a fetus...life begins at conception, life begins at birth.
Looks like a genuine disagreement about a very great mystery. Of course each person posting here believes he or she is right. People don't express opinions because they think they're wrong.
I believe that pro-ban (as in, "abortion ban") people feel that abortion must be stopped to protect babies. That's why they call themselves "pro-life." I also believe that anti-ban people feel that abortion must remain legal to protect freedom. That's why they call themselves "pro-choice."
Unlike many who have posted, I honestly do not know when human life truly begins. I admit I am skeptical of anyone who claims knowledge rather than belief in this area. I have heard so many arguments favoring or opposing an abortion ban, and each argument only reinforces my conviction that this is a legitimate moral and philosophical divide among Americans.
I believe that, in the face of such a visceral disagreement–one that invokes faith, philosophy, ethics, and comparative morality–and such an utter absence of consensus within a free society, the law must remain utterly silent. Our laws shouldn't touch this great mystery of life and death and good and evil. Perhaps one day it will no longer be as much of a mystery, and we will understand enough that a consensus on the proper role of our laws will be possible.
what about the rights of the most innocent of all -the unborn child? you would claim a dog has rights because it cannot speak, but what of the fetus?
A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members. – Mahatma Gandhi
This is the guy that doesn't believe in evolution, well tell that to the grand canyon.