Huckabee likens abortion to a holocaust
Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee.
(CNN)–Speaking before a gathering of Christian conservative voters, GOP presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee said legalized abortion in the United States was a holocaust.
"Sometimes we talk about why we're importing so many people in our workforce," the former Arkansas governor said. "It might be for the last 35 years, we have aborted more than a million people who would have been in our workforce had we not had the holocaust of liberalized abortion under a flawed Supreme Court ruling in 1973."
Huckabee also spoke adamantly of the need for conservative lawmakers to show no compromise on fighting for a constitutional amendment that defines marriage between a man and a woman. "I'm very tired of hearing people who are unwilling to change the constitution, but seem more than willing to change the holy word of God as it relates to the definition of marriage," he said.
Huckabee, spoke before the Family Research Council's Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C. Saturday.
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Now what about the pork issue? The Bible speaks much more sternly about eating pork than it does of either abortion or homosexuality. Will no one condemn the pork eating sinners that are everywhere in America? Did not God send His hurricane to punish the pork-eating south? Wake up America. The path to hell is paved with pork chops.
I know my Bible and I can read what it says. None of you sinners can deny the truth of my statements.
What is a shame is that Ignorant Bigots like Huckabee will actually get votes!!
Each year since 73:
4 million babies born
1 million babies aborted
This should NOT be a good ratio for anyone..
Abortion and Holocaust comments aside... Is he seriously saying that the reason we outsource labor is because we don't have enough people in America?
The millions of jobless people in this country will be pleased to find out there's plenty of work for them after all!
Demonweed, your post was very thoughtful and well-conceived. Thank you.
Mark of Santa Fe, thanks for your post.
Huckabee is a creep who panders to the Christian right. I too am sick of the whole lot of these hypocrites.
It has come to the point where any candidate who thumps the Bible will not receive my support.
It is simply ignorant of Huckabee to say that more than a million people have been lost from the workforce because of abortion. He is so out of touch from reality that i can't believe he is a serious candidate. When women are having abortions, more often that not it is because they aren't prepared to have a baby, be it that they are in high school and want to go to college or that they work multiple jobs and don't have the money to raise a child. Consider this Huckabee; wouldn't these women be taken out of the workforce to care for their baby's. How many would be dumped on the streets. It's humanitarian to allow abortion, and it's more of a holocaust to illegalize it.
Get Real!
And if these children had been born were you and your Government ready to support their mothers with Government Financial Aid?
Not Likely....Easy to talk the talk when you don't have to walk the walk...
Sometimes I have to wonder if all these Anti Abortion people had to feed, cloth and put a roof over these children's heads would they be so against abortion? Sounds so easy, so humane, so civilized...but how many of you have walked alone in these mother's shoes?
Huckabee is right about abortion but not because of any religious or moral implications. Take the religious element completely out of the discussion and even still abortion is so anti-established law it is nearly laughable.
When Scott Peterson was found guilty for the murder of Laci the case spurred a law called Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004. The law recognizes that an unborn child can be a victim of a crime and a person can be held accountable on a seperate charge for harm caused to the unborn child.
In light of full disclosure I will add that the law does have a caveat which permits a legal abortion and exempts a person from performing a legal medical treatment which may harm the unborn child as well as the mother of the child.
This is the prime example of the duplicity of our modern "enlightened" society. People across the board were outraged that Scott Peterson could kill a woman and his unborn child and yet in the same breath describe an unborn child as nothing more than "clumps of cells that have no sense of self or thought" (John, Chicago). How can one act be murder and the other act be nothing more than a medical procedure when the end product, the elimination of a child, is the same?
Even when a criminal is put to death by legal decree the death certificate reads homocide. Should not a mother have to go to court and obtain a legal decree to eliminate the child she carries?
I accept that in the case of rape or incest an exemption MAY be necessary as long as the unborn child has legal representation.
I also find it commical that some people would demand "equal" rights for gay people (even though they are actually asking for a new right. They already enjoy equal rights) and yet would almost off-handedly deny equal rights to an unborn child.
The Huckster is wrong about the gay marriage ban anyway. The "holy word of God as it relates to the definition of marriage" was changed long ago when a legal divorce was allowed. When asked about divorce, Jesus said, "let no man seperate what God has joined together." For those who would interpret "marriage" by religious definition must also demand a Constitutional ban against divorce. Otherwise the argument is hypocritical.
We do not get to hunt and peck the Bible, selecting only those items that agree with our narrow views. The Bible must be taken as a whole or not at all.
"Every screaming anti-choice bible thumper should be forced to adopt at least one child. Period.
Posted By Jeff, Houston, Texas : October 21, 2007 11:15 am"
Hear, hear! I guarantee this would put an end to the abortion debate. P.S. Jeff, you could also add "and every man opposed to abortion…"
Absolutly! When these loons are made to put their money where their mouth is, how fast do you think they'll head for the hills?
New ultrasound techniques used today prove that a fetus under 20 weeks a living vibrant human being, already able to laugh, cry and feel pain. Right there on the ultrasound screen for everyone to see.
No, there is no longer any doubt that a life is being extinguished during an abortion.
I pray to God that the American people are smart enough to elect Ron Paul, so we can fix our problems in this country. Huckabee is just another Neo-con. He has no clue about what is going on in this country. He thinks we should be in Iraq because need to keep out Honor! Ridiculous! He calls himself a Christian but he is anything but.
Sweet Jesus, does Mike Huckabee even know what the hell he's talking about?
Abortion is nothing like the Holocaust. The Holocaust had millions of people exterminated because of their ethnicity and were forced to see horrible things. Abortion is simply an intentional miscarriage.
Why the hell are Republicans so obsessed with comparing everything to the Holocaust? Is it because during World War Two, they did their very best not to do anything about it?
By reading the comments prior to this one, it gives great understanding why situational ethics and morals have changed our country. Not every decision "fits" into a nice answer, but some decision are and should be absolute. Preservation and proliferation of life is one. No one can describe how one's life could change the world. What if Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, Reagan or Clinton had been abortions? Problems will always exist, but termination of life is not a solution-ever. C'mon people......
Okay–I could address so many things on different levels but don't have time. Some stand out, such as the comment "But the kicker is when he conflates not amending the Constitution as he sees fit, with being "willing to change the holy word of God." Ever read the First Amendment concerning the separation of church and state, Mike? Or do you want to get rid of that too?" Huckabee has never read the First Amendment "about the separation of church and state" and come to think of it neither has anyone else because it's not in there. That particular phrase is a quote taken from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to a religious association (Baptist I think). So if we want to argue that's fine, but the MYTH of that phrase being in the constitution I simply could not let pass.
Also, republicans didn't do anything about the Holocaust in WWII??? Are you aware that the president for most of that conflict was Franklin Roosevelt, a DEMOCRAT, who we have to thank for many of the big governnment policies we now have, such as a graduated income tax? Yes-HE was the one who thought doing something about the Holocause was too risky. Of the "big three" (Rosie, Stalin and Churchill) only Churchill advocated trying to save Holocause victims at all cost, and he was over-ruled, so our dear FDR was in good company with Joseph Stalin on that one.
Yes, Mike Huckabee is right on the money!!
At present, there have been 48,000,000 unborn children Murdered in the name of self-covenience!
How sad!
In the Holocaust there were some 11 million innocent people Murdered!
Contrast the numbers and you have the worst holocaust in World History, right here in, Where-else? Yes, that's right - A-M-E-R-I-K-A!!!
But oh well, you Left-wing moonbats sure don't care!!
Jeremiah
Oh, the hypocrisy.
If indeed abortion is murder, then everyone against it should be for laws that will prosecute any woman who has an abortion as a murderer, thereby subject to life in prison (or in a true case of irony in some states – the Death Penalty). Do not cop out by saying that the doctor is the one responsible. He is merely the "hitman" going on orders from the real murderer.
Starts to seem a little less appealing when your sister could spend the rest of her life in jail after being raped and impregnated. What, don't want to prosecute women who are raped? A life is a life. Those are your words. Just because a fetus is the result of a heinous felony doesn't mean that the mother isn't a murderer, right? Follow the slippery slope all the way down.
I wrote the above provoctatively to make a point that there are no total absolutes on this issue. Most people who believe abortion ahould be legal do not exactly celebrate when women choose to abort. And most of those on the anti-abortion side do not want their sisters prosecuted for murder. The water is much more murky than most people are willing to acknowledge.
Protecting the unborn is the biggest civil rights issue of our time and much like the holocaust. God forbid a candidate mention his pro-life position. Okay...now the pro-abortion side can get upset that a male candidate made a relevant comparison other epic tragedies to demonstrate the proportion of the ugliness that is abortion. Understanding that women face horrific choices and believing that abortion is murder are not mutually exclusive positions. Where is the compassion for the unborn? Can you at least follow the logic of one who believes life starts at conception while disagreeing?
Ken from Tucson: the majority of Pro-choicers are pro-life while _they_ are still in the womb. They only turn pro-choice once they are safe!
Why is abortion not comparable to the holocaust? Individual human lifes were destroyed in both cases. And please don't hide behind the law – like the Dred-Scott decision, Roe v/s Wade misclassified human life as not worthy of rights.
I don't believe abortion is right and with so many people unable to have children, it's not necessary. I don't advocate sex outside of marriage but there are many methods of birth control available and people should behave responsibly and use birth control to keep from getting pregnant. If they don't, then they should do the "humane" thing and at least carry the baby to term and then give it up for adoption. The child should not become the victim. One of the other posts stated that society wouldn't allow an animal to be treated this way and I agree. I have 3 girls and no boys but I'd adopt 10 more to keep them from being aborted. Many of my friends and relatives would also. So, if you're thinking of aborting, email me. I'd love to have a boy and I'd give any child a good Christian home with tons of love.
It is true that I may not know all about politics and what the "mature people" of this country may know, but I live in the nightmare that they have created for my generation.
I do not want to you to think that I am attacting anyone, I want my voice to be heard as well.
I stand with Mr Huckabee in what he says. Abortion is a holocust. On my generation.
6 Million Jews died under Hitler
50 Million babies have died...
What else could you call it?
This isn't a matter of political correctness or not, it is a matter of morals. If it wasn't people wouldn't be so affected by it.
My generation has suffered more than anybody else. Because of abortion, there is less then half of us left. I have to ask, why don't you want us? What did we ever do that we should be the ones to pay for your mistakes? I want to know why you think that it is your choice to decide if we should live or die? Why can't we have a chance? I am not accusing here, I want to know why. We, the American Youth, your country's future, what to know why you don't want us. Stop using abortion as an escape goat so you can live how you want, free of the responsiblity of your decisions. We have suffered, and we are still suffering.
Why are so many of us killing eachother? Why are our schools no longer safe? Because we have not been taught that human life is precious, from conception.
I ask you to remove your blinders, to unplug your ears, because we, your children, are crying out to you, and we don't to be left behind anymore.
The unborn baby’s heart begins to form 18 days after conception.
There is a measurable heartbeat 21-24 days after conception.
The baby’s brain begins to form on day 23 –
brain waves are produced by 6 weeks.
At 8 weeks after conception, the stomach, liver, and kidneys of the baby are
functioning, and fingerprints have formed.
At 9 weeks, the unborn child can feel pain.
At 9 weeks the unborn child squints, swallows, moves tongue, and makes fist.
At 18 weeks the unborn child’s vocal cords work and the baby can cry.
At 20 weeks the unborn child has hair on head, weighs one pound, 12 inches long.
At 24 weeks, 56% of babies survive premature birth.
Now that I know for sure that Mike Huckabee is against abortion he has my vote!! That was the last remaining issue I needed to know about him. For those of you against him on this matter, aren't you glad that your mom didn't abort you! I want to make it clear that if you had an abortion, God will forgive you. The only unforgiveable sin is rejecting Jesus Christ! I know that Mike Huckabee will agree with me on this one! Can't wait til you are in office, President Huckabee!!
Wow, I guess this really is the liberal's new network. (Not serious)
You know, during the holocaust people thought it was ok to kill Jews because they saw them as less than human. This wasn't just the view of Adolf Hitler, it was shared by many of the German people as well. Also during that time period, "respectable" doctors saw the availability of so many new subjects as a good thing for science and medicine. Stem cell research, anybody?
Someone else mentioned church and state. You don't seem to understand what Jefferson ment by that at all. The consitution doesn't guarantee the right to freedom FROM religion, it's freedom OF religion. More directly, that means no national church is allowed, but doesn't mean that religion can't influence America. It should be noted that the consitution provides for life liberty and pursuit of happiness, but these rights were denied to slaves just because of color. Why not size right? In other words, this wouldn't be the first time that we blindly overlooked a major violation of human rights.
I believe that another comment mentioned the fact that Huckabee is male. Well, that's kind of like saying that a white person can't have an opinion on a black civil rights issue. Plus, half of aborted fetus are male, which I think earns men the right to have a say on the subject.
Oh wow, I didn't scroll down this far. Hello fellow pro lifers!