December 10th, 2007
08:09 AM ET
15 years ago

Giuliani: Nathan did not want police protection

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Rudy Giuliani said Sunday that police, not the former New York City mayor himself, had decided his then-girlfriend Judith Nathan needed publicly-funded security during their extra-marital affair.

"I did not make the judgment, I did not ask for it, Judith didn't particularly want it," the former New York City mayor said in an interview on NBC's Meet the Press. "But it was done because [police] took the view that it was serious and it had to be done that way."

He bristled when asked by interviewer Tim Russert if a hypothetical presidential mistress would rate the same level of protection, saying a Secret Service detail "would not be appropriate" in the absence of a credible threat.

Giuliani did not name a specific incident that led New York police to create a full threat assessment for Nathan, but did say he had been the target of multiple death threats since his time as a Mafia-targeting prosecutor.

He has faced charges in recent days that he sought to cover up Nathan's taxpayer-funded security expenses by shifting them to obscure city agencies.

He has said that allegation, first reported in the Politico, is inaccurate, and that all expenses were ultimately paid by the New York Police Department.

Giuliani said Sunday that he would likely not have promoted Bernard Kerik to police commissioner had he known of his alleged ties to a company reportedly linked to the Mafia.

He also conceded that he did not realize the extent of the threat posed by al Qaeda before the 9/11 attacks, and said he did not plan to release his client list from Giuliani Partners, which he co-owns, or sever his ties with the firm.

He dismissed some of the most difficult questions with a laugh, quoting another former New York City mayor, Fiorello LaGuardia: "I don't make many mistakes, but when I make them, they're big ones."

–CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand

Filed under: Rudy Giuliani
soundoff (110 Responses)
  1. John T, Omaha, NE

    At first blush, Rudy seemed like an ideal candidate for me: a moderate Republican with more liberal social views. But in the last few months, he's just come across as being corrupt, and interested in more military spending (to counter, to paraphrase him, the threat of Putin's growing power). I personally do not want yet another prolonged engagement, nor a second Cold War. The current crop of Republican candidates makes me want to register as an Independent, just so I'm not associated with them. At least the Democrats, whatever their faults may be, have two candidates that invoke SOME passion from voters. The only Republican candidate I've heard anyone getting really passionate about is Ron Paul, and I can't imagine he'd ever get the nomination.

    December 9, 2007 08:58 pm at 8:58 pm |
  2. C. MacLean, Raleigh, NC

    Extra police security for your girlfriend is one thing – after all, Giuliani has lots of enemies.

    But bringing your girlfriend into the official mayoral mansion – while your wife is also living there, and at the taxpayer's expense – that's just tacky.

    Guiliani wasn't paid to understand international threats like al Qaeda – he was the mayor, not the head of the CIA. Don't pick on the man for something that wasn't part of his job responsibilities – there are plenty of other things within the scope of his job description that he did poorly; pick on those.

    For instance – he vigorously defended members of the NYPD for torturing a suspect while in police custody; while handcuffed, the man was sodomized with a night stick so badly that his intestine was ruptured.

    Guiliani found nothing wrong with this conduct. I find that – and him – revolting.

    December 9, 2007 09:08 pm at 9:08 pm |
  3. Nathan, Rochester, MN

    The "big mistake" would be granting Giuliani the Republican nomination. The Republican party needs to convince voters that it can produce a candidate that will restore trust in the Republican party and in the office of President, nominating Giuliani will be a tremendous step backward. Take away his symbolic leadership after 9/11, and your left with a dishonest philanderer (as if there is any other kind).

    December 9, 2007 09:09 pm at 9:09 pm |
  4. bob, ny

    What a phoney bag of wind.

    December 9, 2007 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
  5. Brendan H., San Antonio, TX

    The party of family values, eh?!

    December 9, 2007 09:20 pm at 9:20 pm |
  6. Mike,Newton, MA

    Sorry Rudy, No more room for many mistakes right now especially those Big ones you are talking about......

    December 9, 2007 09:35 pm at 9:35 pm |
  7. Dave,des moines,Iowa

    That picture is good but Dubya you need to divorce all the women first and repeant your sins, you have many and huge ones........

    December 9, 2007 09:40 pm at 9:40 pm |
  8. Darrel @Lone Rock Iowa

    Rudy has no morals
    Seem like he spends tax payer money to protect a girl friend?
    Sorry Rudy G. You just don't cut the mustard. To much baggage. Just like Hillary/

    December 9, 2007 09:47 pm at 9:47 pm |
  9. Jim

    OK Rev. Robertson, what say you now??

    December 9, 2007 09:48 pm at 9:48 pm |
  10. Ivan,Chicago,Illinois

    I don't believe one word about his denial about who wanted security for his mistress.
    As for his mafia convections, I understand that they were at best second tier papers, just as he soon will be.

    December 9, 2007 09:55 pm at 9:55 pm |
  11. PW Va

    "Rudy Giuliani said Sunday that police, not the former New York City mayor himself, had decided his then-girlfriend Judith Nathan needed publicly-funded security during their extra-marital affair."

    The people of the state of New York should be thoroughly matter whose idea it was to provide the then mistress of the former mayor tax payer funded security for theie extra-curricular activity. The tax payers of New York should file a class action suit demanding a refund of every penny spent protecting Guiliani's concubine and the money should come straight out of HIS POCKET!!!

    December 9, 2007 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm |
  12. Shannon NY

    What a schmuck!

    December 9, 2007 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm |
  13. Henry, VA


    December 9, 2007 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm |
  14. Ron Nebraska

    This guy is truly pathetic and anyone supporting him should have their voting priveliges revoked.

    December 9, 2007 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm |
  15. Luis, Jersey City, NJ

    I agree, Giuliani will make a wonderful president. He's the only candidate that makes sense for all Americans. He is not divisive. Most importantly, Americans are finally ready to put the Bush-Clinton monarchies to rest. We are tired. We want a leader that unifies. Rudy is the person.

    December 9, 2007 10:34 pm at 10:34 pm |
  16. EB Rideout, Georgia

    The biggest mistake of all is letting Ru911dy getting this far in the first place.

    December 9, 2007 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm |
  17. Anonymous, Woodbridge, NJ

    It is shocking to see the degradation of the level of discourse. To even think that this candidate might possibly be the one to represent the Christian Right Wing is incredulous. It is time to pray the GOD for a family friendly Presidential Candidate.

    December 9, 2007 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm |
  18. Jeff Jones, Las Cruces, NM

    Rudy Giuliani is nothing but a RINO, along with the majority of the Republican field. We RepubliCAN'ts are going to get our rears kicked in the general election because aside from a couple of candidates the rest are dunderheads. As a conservative it saddens me to realize how slim the pickin's are. The Republican party has lost it's zeal and zest for defending the virtues of limited government and personal responsibility.

    December 9, 2007 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm |
  19. savitra, new york, ny

    giuliani has also said that homosexual orientation is not a sin, but "the act" is a sin. the hypocrisy is blatant, but i doubt anyone will ever ask him about it. is sex with another woman than the one he is married to a sin? what makes either of those things a sin? is it the (roman catholic interpretation of) the bible? if "the act" of homosexuality is a "sin," what should the punishment be? and what then should the punishment for adultery be? does he really, truly believe that homosexual acts are sinful? then what about his adultery? etc., etc...

    December 9, 2007 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm |
  20. Andrew, NJ

    spin spin spin...whatever happened to "blah blah its a tabloid it never happened"

    December 9, 2007 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm |
  21. Curtis, Bloomington, IN

    So... he's not running for president any more?

    December 9, 2007 10:57 pm at 10:57 pm |
  22. Steve Merrill, Lincoln Nebraska

    How can he be serious when he says secret service would be appropriate for a mistress is there was a credible threat. How can he be taken serious as a fiscally conservative politician if he thinks it is ok to spend tax payer money on security for his mistress.

    Should we not expect the most powerful executive in the world to keep his mind on his job and not spend his time spreading his seed all over the place?

    December 9, 2007 10:58 pm at 10:58 pm |

    I won't even bother commenting on this one, it's obvious my comments aren't going to get posted due to the bias of the staff at CNN.

    December 9, 2007 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm |
  24. Jay, Kenosha, WI

    It's too bad the media will not forgive Giulianni's affair they way they forgave Clinton.

    December 9, 2007 11:08 pm at 11:08 pm |
  25. Karen Houston TX

    And people would actually consider this man for president?

    Where does he get off running as a Republican?

    -Mitt 2008

    December 9, 2007 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm |
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