January 15th, 2008
09:00 PM ET
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Potentially troubling news for Clinton in Michigan 'win'

(CNN) - Hillary Clinton faced a grim statistic in Michigan tonight, despite her primary "win" there: results revealed that she may have reason to worry about her grasp on the African-American vote.

The Michigan primary vote was essentially meaningless: the national party stripped the state of its delegates because it held its contest too early in the election season, and Clinton was the only major Democratic contender whose name appeared on the ballot.

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  1. Tyrone

    You White folks better get used to a Black Muslim as your President and knock off the tash talk about him doing coke!

    Obama 08

    January 16, 2008 05:33 am at 5:33 am |
  2. Lisa

    sure sean, enjoy going for a "tallest person victory" contest in the elementary school you speak of, you may come in first or second if you're lucky. However, stay away from the "smartest person" contest in that school, you would be devastated after coming in last.

    January 16, 2008 05:37 am at 5:37 am |
  3. Jim

    What are you saying Tyrone? I thought Obama said he wasn't a Muslim ?- just attended Muslim School – Ref coke use – He admitted it himself

    What does anybody know about this Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago that Obama attends? Is it Racist?

    What's the truth about Obama? Somebody get me smart –

    I don't care what you call me – I'm NOT voting for a radical Racist

    January 16, 2008 06:18 am at 6:18 am |
  4. Sal

    Yea for Obama, Nah for Clinton... You go Obama!!! We see today that people are willing to make a sacrifice for change. Even though Obama name wasn't on the ballot i bet majority of those people that vote uncommittted vote for him. The people in America see that Obama will be the best president. Vote Obama 08.

    January 16, 2008 06:42 am at 6:42 am |
  5. Jamie

    I'm not surprised about Hillary. My cousin used to work for her as a PI. His job was to go around and threaten the women Bill Clinton had sexually assaulted.

    But after reading the article and comments I am shocked at how little people know about Barack Obama. There is a great deal of information available on the internet, much of it just plain facts about his background.

    He is an avowed Marxist-Socialist who despises the competition engendered in capitalism.

    He and his extended family hate Jews and Israel, something he has been at odds to hide during the campaign for fear of losing the liberal Jewish vote.

    He is a member of a church that espouses Black superiority and separation of all races. If he were a white man, Liberals would label him a bigot for those kind of beliefs.

    Democrats need to be careful and not assume this candidate is a uniter. It is too easy to see in someone the fullfillment of hopes engendered in own desires.

    January 16, 2008 06:46 am at 6:46 am |
  6. toldya sew

    The problem isn't just with Hillary, it's with a party that encourages and provides a safe haven for her ilk.

    Two examples:
    "All Americans must vote Democrat," insisted Jihad Jaara, the Al Aqsa agent who commanded 2002's siege of Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity and used Holy Bibles for toilet paper, which was broadcast worldwide.

    The Center for Responsive Politics reports that Mrs. Clinton has raised $269,436 from the pharmaceutical industry, more than any other candidate, including Republicans, and $220,550 from the oil and gas industry, more than double what her closest Democratic rivals raised from the industry.

    nuf sed

    January 16, 2008 06:55 am at 6:55 am |
  7. Patricia M.

    I see this picture a lot different. I guess. I think it said a lot, for Mrs. Clinton to stay on the Michigan ballot. It told me she won't turn her back on Michigan, no more than she will turn her back on the people of this country. Mrs. Clinton cares! Can you imagine, what she and Bill (he a former president) can do for this country together? I can...
    Only good!

    She has my vote!

    January 16, 2008 07:13 am at 7:13 am |
  8. LARRY


    January 16, 2008 07:21 am at 7:21 am |
  9. Rothchild

    Mr Obama seems determined to cry “race” whenever anyone attacks him. He has been playing the game carefully, admittedly, allowing spokesmen and leaked memos to speak for him, while publicly denying that he wants to stoke up the race issue, For a candidate who seeks to be beyond race, it is a dangerous game, Clintons “have historically and consistently been on the right side of civil rights issues. they care about the African-American community and they care about all Americans and they want to see equal rights and equal justice in this country”. And he could have added, but didn't: and I do not believe that they are playing the race card, and I believe they are above that – so stop making those claims in my name said obama.

    January 16, 2008 07:39 am at 7:39 am |
  10. Tony, Enterprise, Alabama

    CNN is so intent on keeping race a part of this campaign, they have this article on the ticker twice!

    Wake up CNN! The voters will decide this campaign.

    January 16, 2008 07:41 am at 7:41 am |
  11. AJ; Montpelier, VT

    According to CNN is there ever any good news for the Clinton campaign? Or any other campaign for that matter?CNN needs to declare it's endorsement of Obama and stop portraying itself as an objective news network. I have written to the FCC about this problem of "News" outllets like CNN attempting to influence the integrity of our elections. Fox does the same thing. I urge everyone else who thinks that this is a problem to write to the FCC and ask them to look into the matter. News outlets like CNN, Fox and MSMBC have tremendous influence over public perception of political candidates. When that coverage is so skewed towords one candidate or another, the coverage begins to be not only biased but misleading. We, the American public turn to our news networks for clear and unbiased reportiong so that we are able to form an opinion of our candidates. It is vital that we have a neutral source. CNN is not the place to look for a neutral source. Write to the FCC and demand fair news reporting.

    January 16, 2008 07:47 am at 7:47 am |
  12. ohmygosh

    35 years of experience and I have not seen an ounce of judgment, a teaspoon of wisdom nor a grain of dignity displayed by this presidential candidate. IT'S TIME TO TURN THE PAGE!

    January 16, 2008 08:22 am at 8:22 am |
  13. Tom, Boston Ma

    CNN and the rest of the mainstream media have been in the Bush/Cheney/neo-com enterprise all along. remember they are "embedded"? remember Judith Miller of the NYT? NEVER think that they are in the business of informing the public. they are the propaganda machine of the moneyed class. like many millions of others, go to DemocracyNow dot com and start from there. there's no popup adds, they serve no special interests but the public's. the mainstrem media's days are so numbered.

    Democracy Now!!!!!!!!!!

    January 16, 2008 08:26 am at 8:26 am |
  14. From The North

    I agree race has no place in politics regardless of the Nation. However, it looks like it has a Large Place in the Politics of America. And that is very unfortunate.
    Also it appears that America's young population from voting age to thirty years is also going to have an impact on this election. And I fear this sector see Obama as America's Rock Star Politician. A view that I would consider worrisome.

    I would like to reply to – Let's Turn The Page America As this person's comments left me with a very uneasy feeling.
    "Just got back from a month in the UK…Everyone is talking about Obama in Europe. All they want to know is if its going to happen and how great it would be if it does. No one is talking about his race outside the USA, there talking about a positive change and new beginning for America. I got to say…If we as a nation miss this moment its unlikely to come back around any time soon."

    Of course UK, Europe, the Mid East are talking about how Great it would be if Obama was elected President. They mean How Great For Them not America.

    UK, Europe and the Mid East would be ecstatic with an Obama Victory. They would welcome a less seasoned, more youthful, US President. And I'm sure some factors in the Mid East are thrilled with the Media's on-ending coverage of his Muslim ancenstry. They will interpret that as His being One of Them, one of the Fray. Note, I said, THEY will interpret. Not I, not America.

    These Countries will also view an Obama, and/or a Victory by other less seasoned Candidates, as a Leader who will be much easier to sway in international negotiations, A Leader much easier to stall and keep at bay regarding Sanctions. A Leader much easier to handle on Nuclear issues.

    It is not about race but rather, LEADERSHIP – CAPABLILITY – EXPERIENCE, To that end, I pray Americans see the whole picture before them. Please Do not assess a Candidate on International Popularity or Media Polls. Don't play their game. They will win and America will pay the ultimate price.

    I am a Canadian. I have no racial issues. I stand to gain and loose little by this election short of irritation. However, on the world stage, we all stand to loose a great deal if America elects another incompetent Leader. I am concerned that if Americans listen to the pundits and the International rehetoric they will endure another four years worse than the last seven.

    Our citizens of today are living in Perilous times. America truly needs a seasoned, capable, experienced Leader to restore their Nation,quell the devastation in the Mid East and keep the other power hungry Nations at bay.

    I do not favour any Candidate. I see favourable and less favourable qualities in all. You know your politicians better than I. I just pray that you vote according to their qualifications, abilities, integrity and loyalty to America. There is no We here.
    Americans, You Can Do It. And I know come election day, You Will Make The Right Choice based on what really defines a Competent, Credible, Leader.

    January 16, 2008 08:29 am at 8:29 am |
  15. Tom, Boston Ma

    Do not be fooled again, people, by CNN and the mainstream media! Never again! Google Democracy Now and start from there. Google is your best friend.

    January 16, 2008 08:39 am at 8:39 am |
  16. Thomas, St. Petersburg, FL

    Most Democrats believe it is the role of government to drag people through life. Therefore, many Democratic voters are looking for the candidate who is promising them the sun and the moon, as opposed to the most qualified candidate who will benefit our nation the most.

    Back in the days of FDR, "Give 'em hell Harry", and JFK, it was "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what can you do for our country". Unfortunately, those days are over. In the early 1960s, out of wedlock births among African-Americans were 25%; today it is 75%.

    If you think the economy is shaky now, just wait and see what happens if Hillary or Obama become our chief executive and they raise taxes for income redistribution. Neither of these individuals have the experience to lead our nation.

    Our only hope is McCain.

    January 16, 2008 08:41 am at 8:41 am |
  17. carol

    Wow! You had to post it 2 times! Maybe, you didn't watch the debate!

    Hillary '08

    January 16, 2008 08:46 am at 8:46 am |
  18. Charles Mackie

    With the DNC officially disenfranchising Michigan, it sounds like a perfect storm for the states attorney generals or an honest federal prosecutor to take on the established parties for corruption, racketeering, and violations of voters equal protection. BOTH political parties need to have their "powers" curtailed and the voters need to actually have a say in which candidates get nominated. Centralized nomination is a cover for corruption. We the people need to break the political machine if we want good / less government.

    January 16, 2008 08:47 am at 8:47 am |
  19. Dwarakesh

    Well I guess this is just about as right as the other poll's that you have conducted just before NH primary.

    January 16, 2008 08:51 am at 8:51 am |


    January 16, 2008 09:00 am at 9:00 am |
  21. sickofwhiners

    Look through all the the comments here and elswhere. Why is it that Obama's supporters are so hateful and mean-spirited? If this is the type of "unity" that he will bring about in this country, I want no part of it. I'll vote republican instead. Maybe that is what the Obama supporters are going for! How about highlighting issues? Not as much fun I guess.

    January 16, 2008 09:05 am at 9:05 am |
  22. dcshungu

    "70% of Black Voters Pick "Uncommitted" Over Hillary" and she still won by 55% without having campaigned a single day there...

    After having been thoroughly humiliated for hyping the polls before New Hampshire, the MSM is back doing the same thing again. Isn't he definition of insanity "to keep doing the same thing over and over again and hope for a different result each time", or something like that.?

    January 16, 2008 09:43 am at 9:43 am |
  23. Unknown

    The numbers so far show that African Americans in general are voting along racial lines. If they succeed, this will be trouble for Senator Clinton. However, if they fail, they should not expect Hilary to be any better to their causes than Republicans. The question still is: Can Obama win against republicans?

    January 16, 2008 09:49 am at 9:49 am |
  24. Ray 4 Hillary!

    why is this story posted 2 times?

    Again..The uncommitted vote is NOT ALL FOR OBAMA Folks!! Thats split with Edwards. SO, his total is much lower. AND, you can say if his name would have been on the balot, he would have got more voters? Well, who;s to say Hillary would not have had more support also show up??

    January 16, 2008 10:03 am at 10:03 am |
  25. Henry

    I think that each candidate had the opportunity to run in
    Michigan. Clinton ran the others didn't, whose fault is that.?

    January 16, 2008 10:06 am at 10:06 am |
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