January 15th, 2008
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Potentially troubling news for Clinton in Michigan 'win'

(CNN) - Hillary Clinton faced a grim statistic in Michigan tonight, despite her primary "win" there: results revealed that she may have reason to worry about her grasp on the African-American vote.

The Michigan primary vote was essentially meaningless: the national party stripped the state of its delegates because it held its contest too early in the election season, and Clinton was the only major Democratic contender whose name appeared on the ballot.

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  1. in TX

    MI you rock!! Especially Wayne County... thanks for going out and voting uncommitted... Hillary was basically the only person on the ticket and still didn't get the 80%+ you would think a person would get when they are running basically by themselves.

    January 15, 2008 11:41 pm at 11:41 pm |
  2. James Brown ( Independent )

    I find it pretty telling that she only won by 15% over NOBODY..............That tells me that Hillary Clinton is UN-ELECTABLE.

    Personally i see OBAMA as the only Democrat that stands a chance to win in the general election.

    January 15, 2008 11:42 pm at 11:42 pm |
  3. know your politics

    Hey Bean Counter,

    Do us a favor and know your politics. Barack, Fred, and the other Dems didn't show up on the ballot because they decided to respect their party's wishes and withdraw from the race after Michigan suffered penalties for moving today's primary against old, founded National Democratic Party rules. They chose loyalty as opposed to Clinton – who LOOKS like a "big winner" i Michigan and someone one should vote for because she just "must be winning for a reason."

    And why in the world are you ticked at Rudy? He's not a Democrat.

    I couldn't be happier about this article this evening.

    January 15, 2008 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm |
  4. Jr., California

    35 years of experience???? Are you kidding me???

    January 15, 2008 11:44 pm at 11:44 pm |
  5. Drackoe

    It has a lot to do with race. Detroit politics are race.

    January 15, 2008 11:44 pm at 11:44 pm |
  6. J, Ca

    Who’s this ridiculously biased reporter?
    Clinton won almost 60% of the votes when Obama and Edwards supporters combined voted uncommitted for 39%.
    End of story.

    January 15, 2008 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm |
  7. Drackoe

    It has a lot to do with race. Detroit politics are entirely about race.

    January 15, 2008 11:45 pm at 11:45 pm |
  8. concerned citizen, Mesa, Arizona

    How ignorant you Obama supporters are. If you watched the debate her knowledge of issues is superior to him. I think all 3 would unite the country. If the African American community continues to try to divide the democratic party due to race we will lose the general elction. His answer about being CEO scares me to death.

    January 15, 2008 11:46 pm at 11:46 pm |
  9. Gregg

    The one sure thing I can say is that if Obama wins the nomination of the Democratic party we are in for another 4 years of a Republican controlled White House. This is not a racist comment, it is the fact. I may be ready and you may be ready but the majority of Americans are not yet there. Sad as it may be, it still remains true.

    January 15, 2008 11:46 pm at 11:46 pm |
  10. Farah

    I work at an inner-city hospital in Detroit with an overwhelming majority of African American employees and patients... all I have heard is Hillary Clinton. It truly surprises me what is being suggested about the exit polling.

    January 15, 2008 11:46 pm at 11:46 pm |
  11. rich

    Bad omen for South Carolina. Unfortunately, Hillary and Bill has ticked off a large number of blacks who would have otherwise voted for her. Too bad.

    January 15, 2008 11:46 pm at 11:46 pm |
  12. Seekster, Arlington, TX

    Uncommited for President!

    January 15, 2008 11:46 pm at 11:46 pm |
  13. Ann Aloha, PA

    Why is this spinning against Clinton?
    CNN is appearing more sexist than before and continues to loose the objectiveness that is claimed by america media. All words!!!

    January 15, 2008 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm |
  14. josh

    yeah I can't believe that anyone would actually buy the messianic propaganda from obama that Clinton does not support African Americans. Unbelievable. Logical people for Clinton!

    January 15, 2008 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm |
  15. Ray in Vegas

    I know Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have called a truce, and everything is hunky dory and everything, but the truth of the matter is Senator Obama never brought the subject of race up at all and Clinton only backed off of her attacks when Obama took the high road and rightfully stated that Clinton's civil rights committment wasn't an issue and that he wanted to get away from personal attacks and focus on the issues. The Clinton campaign has been playing some very dirty politics recently, by playing up to stereotypes and having people like BET's Bob Johnson attempt to smear Mr. Obama while Hillary maintains plausible deniability. Those attacks have not fooled many people, and African Americans are increasingly realizing that an attempt is being made to turn them against one of the most competent, intelligent, viable candidates to run for president of the United States in decades, who also happens to be African American.

    January 15, 2008 11:47 pm at 11:47 pm |
  16. Jim, S.C

    The uncommitted would be both Obama and Edwards togather, looks like a landslide for Senator Clinton. Not her fault Michigan messed up there Delagate Count. Both Edwards and Obama are on the Florida Ballet, knowing it too was suspended like Michigan. Senator Clinton is the best candidate for President. A Clinton / Obama ticket would be unbeatable. My gut feeling tells me that Clinton can win without Obama, but I do not feel Obama can win without Clinton. This team would be so GREAT for America.

    "Senator Clinton for President of the United States 2008"

    January 15, 2008 11:48 pm at 11:48 pm |
  17. Jeff

    This is completely predictable – given her "I'm better than you" attitude toward ANYONE, EVERYONE.

    May the statesman in this race succeed.

    January 15, 2008 11:48 pm at 11:48 pm |
  18. rick smith

    Hillary, was by far the best, in the debate, Obama is a nice guy, but he just not ready to run the goverment, he won the uncommitted in the debate, Hillary is the only of the three who can beat Romney, and lead US out of the dark years of Bush.

    January 15, 2008 11:48 pm at 11:48 pm |
  19. James

    It is truly amazing how dumb you people are

    January 15, 2008 11:48 pm at 11:48 pm |
  20. Donna

    The latest responses and use of only her "black" surrogates along with her silence on the statements, says it all. Don't underestimate the ability of African American voters to see through the veil !!!!

    January 15, 2008 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm |
  21. Earl

    I like how the Hillary supporters are claiming this is a "victory". A victory against, who? Dodd, Gravel, and Kucinich? Those three combined couldn't get 10% of the vote if thier livelihoods depended on it.

    Seriously ... to think that Hillary someone how won, because she got more votes than uncommited is asinine. If my parents went to the polls, and they saw Hillary Rodham and Uncommited, they'd probably just vote for Rodham. It's not that they would want to vote for her, it's because it's the only vote on that there that appears to be logical. Unless you are plugged into the internet or aare a political junky, you're probably not going to know that voting Uncommited was an unerground way to show your dissatisfaction with Rodham.

    If I were a Hillary Rodham supporter, and I saw my fellows shouting and hollaring how great a victory this was, I would be embarassed for them, and I would be even more ashamed my candidate did not show solidarity with her party. But then again, when you've got no shame, you leave your name on the ballot to claim VICTORY ... against no one!

    January 15, 2008 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm |
  22. Robert

    In some ways, I think this serves her right for the incredibly negative onslaught her campaign has just waged against Obama. The press discusses this recent spat like both groups fomented it equally.
    To anyone paying attention, it seems that the Clinton campaign, (candidate, Bill, and surrogates), aggressively tried to spin a few awkward statements to their advantage at the expense of Obama's. I do not for a minute think that the Clintons meant to slander MLK or insult African Americans, but there is no denying that they both had been going all out negative against Obama in NH, then made a few whoops moment comments that could be interpreted to involve race in speeches or to the press. The Obama campaign spent several days not commenting at all on the storm created by the Clintons. However, when many (neutral!) black leaders called for apologies, the Clintons said that the Obama campaign had put them up to it, and began trying to say that Obama had played the race card. Obama finally commented, saying he had no comment, but the storm went on until he finally called for a truce which the Clinton campaign jumped at because they could tell a quagmire when they saw it.
    I think the whole episode was unfortunate for their party, and for race relations in our country. A quick clarification and apology on the part of the Clintons (as well as significantly less use of negative campaigning), would solve the whole thing and allow the candidates to talk about real issues!

    January 15, 2008 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm |
  23. Marsha

    PLEASE! Doesn't anyone think it's a little coincidental that the RACE CARD got played right before SOUTH Carolina? As someone who graduated with a Political Science degree, I see this as very strategic on Obama's part.

    If we continue to play this out as a racial Obama will win, which is exactly what he wants. However, he will not win the election, because long term democrats like me will not vote for Obama, because he doesn't have the experience to run the country. Plus, I will not vote for someone that won a Presidential primary by "playing" the race card. I may believe the race is extremely sexist; however I admire Hillary Clinton for saying that she is not running because she is a woman, while Obama thinks he is the next Martin Luther King and preaches his "yes we can" from his pulpit. At least Hillary has not played the gender card – she did not cry on purpose. Her tears were genuinue. Obama has played the race card.

    So, if Obama does win the Primary. I will laugh as he divides the democrats, and as he cries foul as Republicans bring up his inexperience and his drug use repeatedly and he is shocked when they offer no apology.

    January 15, 2008 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm |
  24. Naveen

    To Bean Counter...it is not fair to say that Obama and the other Dems do not care about Michigan. The state was stripped of it delegates so why would they spend valuable resources (time, money) into a state which has no bearing on their overall delegate count? From the exit polls, it seems as if the people (or at least the black majority) understand this. Not sure if Hillary's campaigning in that state will hurt her in terms of the afore mentioned resources in the long run.

    January 15, 2008 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm |
  25. FJ Stratford

    This development on the black vote could be troubling. However, the analysis is flawed.

    There is a dynamic that is missing in this election. One doesn't really feel that there is a choice between Obama and Clinton. There is also the chance that since Clinton was a sure win, many of her supporters (black, white, asian or latino) may have stayed home. Obviously, the ones who came and voted "Uncommited" have self-selected for Obama/Edwards. Conversely, the ones who stayed home are more likely Clinton voters.

    It's a warning, but it may not tell the whole story.

    January 15, 2008 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm |
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