January 15th, 2008
09:00 PM ET
15 years ago
Potentially troubling news for Clinton in Michigan 'win'
(CNN) - Hillary Clinton faced a grim statistic in Michigan tonight, despite her primary "win" there: results revealed that she may have reason to worry about her grasp on the African-American vote.
The Michigan primary vote was essentially meaningless: the national party stripped the state of its delegates because it held its contest too early in the election season, and Clinton was the only major Democratic contender whose name appeared on the ballot.
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This should worry people for the GE, (bc OH and Michigan) are similar in make up. Maybe the republicans can capitalize on this.
"...They should be voted on for their character and integrity..."
If that's the criteria, we may as well all stay home.
Eric, that not true. Do your homework. It was for both Edwards and Obama. Stop trying to play the race card.......SICK!
This whole "uncommitted" business is entering the la-la-land of American politics. If Michigan doesn't mean anything for the democrats, than it doesn't mean anything period. The over analysis with the word win in quotes in the article once again has endless negative implications against Hillary Clinton. The statistic is important but it's in one state out of 50. People need to focus on the important issues like what the American people need and what each candidate has to offer. Stop reporting on this "uncommitted" garbage. This election means so much to this country and if we get into this minutia about why Mitt Romney's hair is always well-coiffed or why Michelle Obama picks on her husband publicly or why Hillary Clinton ran against "uncommitted" in Michigan we are going to lose site of the important information that needs to get across to the voters who ultimately will make the decision that will hopefully change this country and bring it out of the sad and worrisome state that it's in. To all of the voting population who may read this, please pay attention to what matters! Don't let this...stuff...ruin this election and let it fall by the wayside...It simply means too much.
Did CNN not get the memo? We're sick of the race issue. The Obama camp is sick of it. The Clinton camp is sick of it.
You have an African-American candidate and a majority of African-American voters in this state support him. And this is news? You actually get paid a salary to write this crap?
ENOUGH with race issues! We are all on the same side – Dems in 2008!
Divisive, divisive, divisive...
Clinton's "spokesmen" the "1st black president", BET's Johnson and Charlie R sure are afraid of someone.
They damage their reputations to insinuate, call names and criticize Obama. Why?
Clinton needs no help shooting herself in the foot. She lacks basic diplomatic skills at the very least and at best she lacks elected experience.
ABC!
The debate tonight might change the dynamic since they all downplayed the race/gender issues to keep the party united. The important thing is to get those R's out of there! Any one of these ego maniacs can do the job, just make sure, even if KKKarl tries to steal it again, that those R's are OUT!
I thought Hillary did o.k. in the debate, she has a great understanding of the issues, but she leaves me totally uninspired. She comes off as a bureaucrat, which may mean she will be highly capable, but is that all we are looking for in a president, someone who knows there way around Washington? Seems like we are setting the bar a little low.
I think Obama, and even Edwards to a certain extent, give us a much better chance to take the country in new direction. I thought Obama was absolutely right when he pointed out that Clinton's warning smacked of the politics of fear that we have been force fed by the Bush administration.
I wish someone had brought up the attempt to disenfranchise thousands of voters, many of them Black and Latino, that the Clinton camp is currently undertaking. That to
me is a truer depiction of Clinton's attitudes towards people of color.
"There is also the chance that since Clinton was a sure win..."
There were no delegates at stake, nothing was won. By not supporting the solidarity of the Democratic National Committee and leaving her name on the ballot, Ms. Clinton effectively did the same thing as a Writers' Guild of America member crossing the line to work – it makes her look like she thinks she is better than her peers.
"Conversely, the ones who stayed home are more likely Clinton voters."
Why even say something like this? There is no way to prove for whom the the voters that did not attend would vote. Unless of course you personally polled a sample of registered Democrats that chose not to attend.
Good Debate! Hillary certainly won, but Obama would make a very good VP.
Is race or gender a valid reason to vote for a candidate? Unfortunately personal prejudices, style or media-hype obscure credibility, experience, legislative contributions, commitment and drive. Who is the best qualified candidate is not a choice of race, bigotry or popular group mentality. Examine closely, Hillary Clinton has a proven record, has never abandoned her constituents and has fought hard for middle-class, minority and Black American values. Barack Hussein Obama does not qualify in legislation or experience yet speaks with a convincing cadence of persuasive sophistry. Who really is this guy? What are his ties to African officials, Muslim foundations or drug use? Specious promises and a dubious evolution leave questions as to how this new guy came up so fast. George Romney, former governor of Michigan was what he was; a politician with his eye on big business deals that collapsed with his term. Romney is big government, big business and a major step back for minorities. Should we be concerned about our economic woes? Without a doubt, Hillary Clinton would reverse the deficit and the shame of unbridled government spending. I do not care if Hillary is a female or White. I do not care if young people see age as a handicap. I see tremendous strength, intelligence and a highly "visible" career dedicated to political, economic and legislative experience.
she is going win all the states I'm do proud of her give her a change
Thank you Barack and Edwards supporters for letting your voice be heard and voting uncommitted.
The turnout was not relevant. It just bothers me that clinton would anyway participate in the election. A proof that she only cares about herself and not the democratic party.
My message is to the DNC the damage is already done. If you want the white house you better get behind Barrack. The second message is also for the DNC who do really think all this men voting for nobody over hillary in the general election are going to vote for. I am a dem but i will not vote for hillary sorry. what is more important hillary or the white house.
FJ Stratford, I am amazed at your stats wizadery. So, the Clinton supporters did not come out to vote for her? Here is the actual piece that you also missed: the Republicans who very much want to take on Hillary and destroy her easily in the GENERAL election actually came out to vote for her; she did not get that many democrats to vote for her!!! Well, what about that? Those Republicans cannot lay hands on either Obama or Edwards; but they have chest-filled cabnets that they will soon open for Hillary. Oh, how easily the democrates stand to lose this one again by placing another "controverial" candidate out there. God Bless!!!
Great Debate.
Good candidates but Barack's the one we need at this time.
Don't miss this opportunity, People !!
the more that you bash hillary, the more that we work harder to get the votes for her. bring it on...
Edwards and Obama obviously shared the uncomitted vote, and you never said how many African Americans voted??
Good Debate though! Hillary certainly won, but Obama would make a very good VP. Don't worry – he will run again! 🙂 Go team!
CNN has once again been able to game the kindergarten crowd, and get them all upset over NOTHING.
My girl, that would be Hillary, WON by a vote total of 55% for her and 40% for UNCOMMITTED. [No delegates were awarded by the Democratic Party for this election, so one could really say the election was a non-event.]
I know a lot of black people in Michigan, and they do not support Obama; he is simply unelectable!
Finally, I guess we could just raise the discourse, just a bit, here, both by CNN and the people who comment on these extremely negative and obviously biased stories.
MLK didn't fight so long and so hard to see AMERICA turn into this!
once edwards drops out – obama will skyrocket
the anti-hillary movement is HUGE- as is should be!
Hey J in Ca ... don't you realize that most of the voters either stayed home because they felt it was pointless to vote, or they voted for Romney to offset the Republican race. Hillary is finished, mate.
Wait, wait...I thought this election wasn't about "race" or "gender"? We here the pundits and the candidates reminding us over and again that America has grown up, that voters aren't interested in these things, that they care only about the issues. And then we see the statistics showing that women in NH overwhelmingly support Hillary; that blacks elsewhere overwhelmingly support Obama. Is George Orwell turning over in his grave yet?
This race/gender thing is crazy. The civil rights movement for race and gender has been fought for hundreds of years. MLK and LBJ played parts in a bigger issue. You want to talk about the fight for african american civil rights you need to go all the way back to the signing of the declaration of independence.
Also those that think that race is the only civil rights movement you are highly mistaken. Women did not even get the right to vote til a great deal of time after african american men. Women still to this day are fighting to make it into the mens world.
Lets also note that civil rights movements in this nations history include: disabled, hispanic, irish, immigrants, religion, middle eastern, Japanese, Germans, sexual orientation etc. It is truly uninformed to think that civil rights is gender and african american only.
CNN stop reporting on this. It does no one any good. All this story does is making the american people lose faith in this democratic party. This election is about the issues, let the american people vote on the issues.
Clinton is the only Dem who can lose the general election except for Kucinich.