January 16th, 2008
10:51 AM ET
12 years ago

Potentially troubling news for Clinton in Michigan 'win'

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/15/art.clintonmichigan.ap.jpg caption=" Clinton won less than a quarter of support from black voters."](CNN) - Hillary Clinton faced a grim statistic in Michigan Tuesday night, despite her primary "win" there: results revealed that she may have reason to worry about her grasp on the African-American vote.

The Michigan primary vote was essentially meaningless: the national party stripped the state of its delegates because it held its contest too early in the election season, and Clinton was the only major Democratic contender whose name appeared on the ballot.

Even so, roughly 70 percent of Michigan’s African-American voters - a group that makes up a quarter of Michigan’s Democratic electorate - did not cast their votes for Clinton, choosing the “uncommitted” option instead. Yet these voters weren’t uncommitted at all: in fact, according to CNN exit polls, they overwhelmingly favored Barack Obama, whose name did not appear on the ballot.

Had Obama’s name been on the Michigan ballot, CNN exit polls show that he would have won an overwhelming 73 percent of the African-American vote, in contrast to 22 percent who say they would have voted for Clinton under those circumstances. If South Carolina’s large African-American community votes as Michigan’s, Hillary may not be feeling much ‘southern hospitality’ in that state.

Related: Blacks, youngest voters choose 'uncommitted' over Clinton

- CNN Political Producer Alan Isenberg

Filed under: Hillary Clinton
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  1. jason smith

    Stop the presses!!! Nicole Ritchie had her kid and Britney is wearing underwear today!!!!

    If this is the kind of "news" and "family values" we get from the hetero world, that some entitled stars sleep around and eventually get pregnant from their back-up singer or whoever, surprise!!! none are married, but it makes headline news, congratulations, I don't recall james dean or marilyn monroe forgot underwear or had a bunch of illegitimate kids, and they were rebels in their generation!!!!

    What is wrong with gays getting married???? They don't make the news because they are responsible, commited parents.....why doesn't common sense prevail over some fables passed down from 2000 yrs ago that has to be preached to people every week so they don't actually have to use their own common sense???? Before the Bible was written, Greeks and Romans had "public baths"...Iran has no gays.....according to Ahminejad.....

    Isn't Bush in the Middle East right now because our world is overpopulated with no end in sight and we are just trying to lock up oil since we don't plan on changing our behaviors any time soon, until nature smacks us upside the head???

    If a gay person wanted to adopt one of millions of unwanted children, wouldn't that be a good thing???

    Since the religious right feels embryos and fetuses are children, isn't it hypocritical to allow unwanted children to be born, and yet restrict their ability to have a family, limiting their potential, leading to lower skills, eventually living off the American taxpayer??? I am sure no GOPer has ever been to a group home and seen how badly some children need a good home...

    But you would not allow a child who is already born to have a family who loves them???? Does the Bible teach that???

    I guess this is a philosophical question for somebody from the religious right who does not like gays (or immigrants)...

    Why would anybody with common sense (and a brain) vote for you????

    Sen. Craig, Foley,and any GOPers currently having "inappropriate relations" are not permitted to comment.....

    I am from a "red state", am not gay, but I have a brain and a conscience!!!!

    If sexual orientation is biological, then somebody cannot change and they deserve equal rights...if it is learned, then we are potentially "gay", and then we are basically doing ourselves a disservice.....I personally feel it is biological.....just like x or y......

    January 16, 2008 09:43 am at 9:43 am |
  2. Ray 4 Hillary!

    Hello People..The 55% is split among Edwards and Obama so she di much better then you are giving her credit??

    CNN is becoming a joke.

    January 16, 2008 09:43 am at 9:43 am |
  3. Sally Evans

    Can anyone tell me why Obama is even being considered as a presidential candicate?-Has anyone noticed that he refuses to salute our flag? If that were to be the only reason to keep him out of the race, that should be reason enough!-I have been the proud wife of two war veterans–my second husband having a purple heart, so you can imagine how I feel looking at a man who wil never salute our flag. If Obama wins this race to run for the presidency, I will vote for a republican. I have always backed my democratic party, but NEVER will I vote for a person who does not salute our flag. What is the matter with this country??-I pray that Hillary wins this election. And I pray that America will wake up, before we are no longer America.-Thankyou-Mrs. Evans

    January 16, 2008 09:43 am at 9:43 am |
  4. Sad to Say

    She could have pulled her name like the others did and than there would have been nothing to write about. I want to be kept informed about this particular race. To all the voters who always have a problem with what is being reported what are you afraid of? Do you think all of the insults regardless of who you favor will make someone want to side with you? It will never happen nastiness is a turn off read. Just read the story make up your own mind and stop making up stuff. Everybody is going to vote for who they feel will serve this country best. Truthfully though I know some of you must have done poorly in english class I have never seen so many people read the same articles and start making comments that have absolutely nothing to do with the article I know it maybe hard for some of you but try to read with some understanding because your silly comments just start confusing some of us because they they are so off topic which causes other people to make off topic comments. Thank you!

    January 16, 2008 09:44 am at 9:44 am |
  5. thelma

    i watched the debate last night and i',m so proud of CLINTON. she's one smart lady. if you here that barack hussein obama said all the BLACK & BROWN voted for him.well that should tell the WHITE folks to stand up for CLINTON. shes not a fairytale. she will be the best PRESIDENT for us. come on women lets stand up for ourselves one time.we can put our voice in the WHITEHOUSE . and be a part of HISTORY.

    January 16, 2008 09:44 am at 9:44 am |
  6. Al in Wpg

    What about the dirty tricks she's trying to pull in Nevada... the lawsuit... THAT IS NEWS!!!!

    January 16, 2008 09:45 am at 9:45 am |
  7. Soldier, Chicago, Illinois

    White male here...

    The Clintons are trash. Always have been trash. Always will be trash. They'll say anything to win. They'll twist any truth into deceit, dig up any dirt, invent any scandal on their opponent. Kindergarten essays, lies about Obama being a Muslim, accusations about Obama 'dealing' drugs... the Clintons are sick, depraved, disgusting examples of power-broking, power-hungry trash heaps.

    This is one soldier who is hoping America chooses to ignore the distortion and votes for the real candidate. Vote for Obama, Edwards, or McCain, America. We can't take 8 more years of these two families. No more Bushes. No more Clintons. No more dynasties. No more legacies. End the royalty.

    January 16, 2008 09:45 am at 9:45 am |
  8. Mark V.

    The overwhelming CNN-bashing above is childish. There were exit polls that showed a certain result. CNN reported the result. What was CNN expected to do? Keep the results in secret? Pretend that the result were not unfavorable to Clinton? One can have his/her opinion or doubts about the reliability of such a poll, or about the actual meaning, and nothing that CNN did prevents anybody to do so. But to call the CNN report rubbish or worse is just ludicrous.

    January 16, 2008 09:45 am at 9:45 am |
  9. kamenwati

    This is a sad spectacle. The anti-Obama crowd is so incensed they can't understand the main point of the article. Clinton is in deep trouble with a lot of the electorate, but African Americans, in particular, are deserting her in droves. She has no one to blame but herself and her husband Bill. Bill should take the lion's share of the blame. His recent tour of black talk radio shows only made things immeasurably worse for his wife. That being said ... I find many of the comments about African Americans on this site offensive. To accuse black people of being racist for supporting Obama is both ignorant and bigoted.

    To you Clinton Democrats out there who spew this garbage, you apparently were content with African American support when it was tied to your candidate, or when it led to Bill Clinton's two terms in office. Now, when another choice appears and it happens to be a man of color, African Americans are suddenly racists. Please note: African Americans are as diverse in their interests as any other ethnic group in this country. Historically, African Americans voted overwhelmingly Republican. But after the Republican Party launced its southern strategy and became the party of white supremacists and racism (Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, Trent Lott, etc.), blacks and many other progressive-minded voters turned away. Within the Democratic Party we are seeing another shift taking place. Young people and others are turning away from the old guard leadership of which Bill and Hillary Clinton are both leaders. Like any other movement, you have the choice of joining, getting the hell out the way, or getting run over.

    January 16, 2008 09:45 am at 9:45 am |
  10. Cesaria

    Why would black people voting for Obama be any different than women (white women) voting for Clinton? Please explain.

    January 16, 2008 09:46 am at 9:46 am |


    January 16, 2008 09:47 am at 9:47 am |
  12. JC

    The American people are TIRED of minorities feuds!!!

    January 16, 2008 09:47 am at 9:47 am |
  13. Armysoldier

    I am a nurse in the U.S. Army. I happen to be black and a female. I have spent 36 months in this hell hole called Iraq, I have watched so many young Americans lose their life for no reason.... So why you are sitting at home on your couch think of the people who are affected by the decisions that are made in Washington. I support anyone who is and has been against this war. As for Hillary Clinton, she is crying because she is tired.-GET REAL!!!!!! She has no idea what tired is.....tell her to come walk a mile in the shoes of the soldiers that live every day in a war zone with her consent. The Obama Campaign is not playing the race card; the media is manipulating your mind. So as you enjoy the rest of your day and debate small issues, PLEASE REMEMBER THE 130,000 SOLDIERS THAT ARE IN IRAQ

    January 16, 2008 09:47 am at 9:47 am |
  14. livia

    I am a democrat but at this point I am unsure who to vote for, but I am looking @ Mrs. Clinton to be the 1st lady President of our United States. I would not even think about votig for Obama for the fct that our Nation i allreary in big trouble and I think this man is just going to bring more harm than good to our Nation. People think about this Obama is not African American he was not een born in our United States, look at his middle name and think do we really need this person as our next President. I can assure you one thing I am all for a change specially when it comes to bringing God back to the schools. I am all for the right person to become my next President, but don't let the color of Obama confussed you and think hard before voting. IF HE WAS A TRUE AFRICAN AMERICAN THAN WHERE IARE HIS ROOTS? THINK ABOUT IT.,


    January 16, 2008 09:47 am at 9:47 am |
  15. KB

    Alright, So I am not going to get into the whole issue of who won or could have won or whatever. I will say that most of the candidates lost my repsect when they pulled their names from the Michigan ballot. I do not understand why Michigan moved its primary up but they did and I think that it sent a very bad message to the citizens of the state of Michigan when these candidates essentially said that Michigan votes did not matter to them. I am an out of state student in Michigan so I still get to vote in my states primary however, I was irritated with the number of people up here that are purely voting based on race and not on an obvious lack of interest in the state of Michigan. My vote will not go to someone that pulled their name off of the ballot.

    Can someone please explain (please do not be rude as I am just asking a question) why Michigan was punished for moving up their primary? or why Michigan moved up their primary? I can not find a good reason for either! Thanks!

    January 16, 2008 09:47 am at 9:47 am |
  16. Susan Texas

    There goes CNN again, trying to twist this election in Obama's favor. They are sooo transparent. She won, period.

    January 16, 2008 09:48 am at 9:48 am |
  17. Ralph

    There are so many religious kooks running for president, I don't know who to vote for. I don't want to live under a Christian Dictatorship, where our every thought is censored. CNN is not longer the Clinton News Network, it should change its call letters to OEM, the Obama Excuse Machine. Obama can't fail on his own according to CNN, it must be someone elses fault, or he just didn't get a fair shake, or its racism, or keep listening, they will come up with another excuse. CNN will

    January 16, 2008 09:49 am at 9:49 am |
  18. Simone


    I also decided to look at Obama's church like Ralph did, and as a voter...so what? It speaks of the oppressed Blacks and Black power and Africa first. What's wrong with that as a value system? Aren't the Blacks in this country entitled to their own church and isn't Obama entitled to have that as his core philosophy?

    January 16, 2008 09:49 am at 9:49 am |
  19. Clinton Scab, not Socialist

    Someone actually sees Clinton as a Socialist? Would a Socialist cross a picket line? I don't think so. I don't think Barry Goldwater thought so, either. I wonder if the person who called Clinton a Socialist knows who Goldwater was.

    What Clinton did was what a scab does. She crossed the line. She proved how similar she is to the current president by breaking her own rules. Fantastic. Business as usual.

    We already knew the Republicans were scabs, now you know which of the Dems are scabs. Kucinich tried to remove his name from the MI ballot but failed to meet the deadline. That's the kind of incompetent management we've come to expect in the Whitehouse.

    Bill Clinton was the best Republican president the US has ever had, regardless of his declared affiliation.

    January 16, 2008 09:49 am at 9:49 am |
  20. Ben Shooner

    Maybe it's just that many black Dems (like this white Dem), simply realize that Hillary cannot and should not be trusted-that Obama brings hope and vision, and that he would clearly have a better chance to beat a guy like McCain-who if he is nominated will posture himself as the 'anti-Bush' thus gaining many moderate votes.

    January 16, 2008 09:49 am at 9:49 am |
  21. Anti Mud

    I commonly refer to CNN as the Clinton News Network....Let us look at the facts...
    This story is buried in a ticker and barely being made public....
    People in Michigan came out to vote in protest of HIlary Clinton.........
    Those people had no other reason to go to the polls...............................
    So perhaps the real story is not about black or white or asain or latino........
    Perhaps it is about Hilary Clinton and her electability.........................................
    and her negative campaign....................................
    The real news of the Clinton Machine is not being reported on CNN...negative fliers about Obama's abortion record, big money bundlers who are less then honorable, paid canvassers in NH, trying to stop casion workers from caucusing on a Saturday by using a group of teachers who have Saturday off.
    I am all for a woman president...just not this woman who is more concerned about bettering her own standing than that of the American people.....Make no mistake people...The Clinton's are about monied special interests and you do not have to look far to uncover the facts.

    January 16, 2008 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  22. Shane, NY

    Yea your pretty much a racist lol. Why do people even entertain nonsense. Do know Hillary Clinton went to Haiti on a discreet trip to have some VooDoo done on her for an extra edge. I don't personally believe in VooDoo but there are some interesting stuff on MetaPhysics which is related to VooDoo. I know it sounds crazy but i know a few locals from there and they said she was there involved in a secret ceremony. Very reliable sources too. Just think outside the box people.

    January 16, 2008 09:50 am at 9:50 am |
  23. jason smith

    There is only the "hillary race card"....she just attacks Obama (and anybody else) for trying to even respond to her attacks on MLK and other black leaders, saying only the american govt. i.e. white leaders actually had anything to do with civil rights, basically devaluing anybody of color or other ethnicity or religion who actually had to fight for their "equal" rights in this country.....

    So why is a poster now talking about the "obama race card" Obama hasnt' started anything...otherwise, he could talk about hillary not being ready to be president, since she just breaks down and cries at strategic times, she moved to NY just to get more delegates in preparation to run for President, while she attacks some coloring from kindergarten from Obama or something he said to his teacher in kindergarten!!!!! She employs her "impeached" sleazy, philandering husband...and still has the audacity to say she is a feminist?????

    Let' s really talk about who is a "divider", who is a "polarizing" figure, who will immediately get attacked by the GOP for her waffling if she gets the nomination????

    You might as well hand the presidency to McCain right now, if people fall for hillary's sleazy tricks....for a woman who preaches changes, she knows how to sling mud (and flip flop) like a typical politician...

    Long term women's rights will suffer after a hillary presidency, she will be a novelty, with no support, since nobody on the other side of the aisle will work with her.....

    January 16, 2008 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  24. Kevin, Louisville, Ky

    This is a deliberate stroking of the race card ! please CNN and everyone here was seems not to have anything to do..who are not concerned with weakening economy, the family that has lost their home to the stupid bankers, the worker who has lost his job to China and Vietnam...and the desperate Hispanic who is waiting at El paso to run across the desert and take the jobs you claim ..you do not want ..get a life!

    Meanwhile CEOs are shafting you with their golden parachutes after messing your savings ..get a life !

    No matter who wins ..black, white , male , female ....you better be thinking of the demise of the US rather than bickering on useless polls !!

    January 16, 2008 09:51 am at 9:51 am |
  25. sunnyday

    Leave the lady alone, she is blocked in regardless of what is said or done, CNN needs to stop being bias and report only the facts not their opinions. We all have a responsibilty to this America and if we don't come together it will be in the same shape it is today. Obama is impressive but after watching the debate last evening, I realize that he is not the candidate to move us forward. All he talks about is his ability to bring people together, much more than that is needed. In my opinion there is another time for him, not now. We need someone who can do more than bring people together, we need someone who can do that and also mend and reform our current process, make us feel like the powerful Nation that we stand for .

    January 16, 2008 09:52 am at 9:52 am |
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