Potentially troubling news for Clinton in Michigan 'win'
[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/15/art.clintonmichigan.ap.jpg caption=" Clinton won less than a quarter of support from black voters."](CNN) - Hillary Clinton faced a grim statistic in Michigan Tuesday night, despite her primary "win" there: results revealed that she may have reason to worry about her grasp on the African-American vote.
The Michigan primary vote was essentially meaningless: the national party stripped the state of its delegates because it held its contest too early in the election season, and Clinton was the only major Democratic contender whose name appeared on the ballot.
Even so, roughly 70 percent of Michigan’s African-American voters - a group that makes up a quarter of Michigan’s Democratic electorate - did not cast their votes for Clinton, choosing the “uncommitted” option instead. Yet these voters weren’t uncommitted at all: in fact, according to CNN exit polls, they overwhelmingly favored Barack Obama, whose name did not appear on the ballot.
Had Obama’s name been on the Michigan ballot, CNN exit polls show that he would have won an overwhelming 73 percent of the African-American vote, in contrast to 22 percent who say they would have voted for Clinton under those circumstances. If South Carolina’s large African-American community votes as Michigan’s, Hillary may not be feeling much ‘southern hospitality’ in that state.
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- CNN Political Producer Alan Isenberg
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CNN WHO IS A PART OF THE BIG CORPORATE AMERICA IS TRYING TO DERAIL SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON AGAIN BEACUSE SHE STANDS UP AGAINTS THE BIG CORPORATIONS. AND BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS SUPPORTED BY THE BIG COMPANIES THOUGH HE CLAIMS HE IS NOT. ASK WHO IS EXXON SUPPORTING
THEY TRIED THE SAME IN NH AND THEY FAILED. NOW THEY ARE AT IT AGAIN.
Legislative experience versus motivational orator? That is not a hard choice to make. The first red flags came months ago during his speech referencing MLK....that is when the race issue started and the comparison to another black orator, whom I have much respect for. If you draw that card, you better be ready to play the game. I disagree with riding the back of historical figures in order to achieve your goals. Reagan, MLK, Truman....they are in the past. I hold the same expectations of others regardless of their race, culture, language, etc. And, am more than tired of tolerating the racism I see toward caucasions and the ignorance associated with the behavior. Is it more acceptable to hate "crackers" these days?
Hillary's cup is 55% full, not 45% empty
She won decisively in Michigan, when all other candidates COMBINED adds up to only 45%.
This bodes well for her in the later states primary, esp for the feb 5 super tuesday, where voters of many states cosider hillary most electable (whether with or without the black votes)
if the blacks dont support hillary now, there may be a backlash for them if hillary becomes the next prez.
After reading these comments, I get the distinct impression that "Billary" supporters are getting extremely nervous.
She IS unelectable – no matter how you've convinced yourself otherwise.
BAMA/EDWARDS '08
I guess no one here watched the debate on MSNBC last night when they show Obama the emails his people sent out spinning the false quotes and their meanings out after her and Bills Comments? Obama did not deny he did that? So YES YES YES..Obama is playing the race card. That's fine. If blacks will only vote for blacks, Then I will only vote for a white person. Hillary!
ugg. I cant even type that with a straight face. I would never do that. I will vote for who I think will make the best President and That's Hillary! Maybe when Obama has grown up in 8 years, I will vote for him then.
I think I'll be happy if either Hillary or Barack get the Democratic nomination. Like Hillary said, they are pretty much on the same team.
Was this really a big surprise that African Americans favor Obama?
The MSM can't leave Hillary alone even when she wins they have to try to slur her there. It is so obvious to a lot of people what they are doing.
I know of a lot of people who have been converted to Hillary because of the outright negative press she receives. Why can't these people report facts and not scue them to their benefit.
As long as Hillarea, a descendant of Karl Marx, does not win we will be fine. Socialism does not work. Even if Hillarea, the smartest woman in the world, is running it, socialism does not work.
She talked about it last night in coded language. Redistributing the wealth, free this and free that, the government needs to control this.......
being from Canada i would say that any candidate 'congressional 'or president wont be elected' unless they come out strong against illegal immigration.
All Obama Lovers,
Last night debate revealed that it was Obama and his camp started and distributed 4-page "race" papers. Obama got caught "red handed" and Tim Russert had the proof that he waved during the debate. Obama had no choice then to admit.
R U sure you are for this hypocrite?
WAKE UP!!!
Hillary is our next President!
One of Obama's top advisors, Deval Patrick, the governor of Mass is trying to circumvent legislation in order that he might grant illegal immigrants free college education while American kids have to pay! This is Obama's next platform.
Clinton has no experience, other than being First Lady...
She is now exploiting her campaign funds to change caucus rules in Nevada, even though she agreed with them when she was ahead, and now with her support eroding, she is threatening lawsuits..she is currently disenfrachising the Culinary Union, especially all the minority workers.....is this her meaning of "change"?????
Is she going to sue every state where she loses, until she "wins" like Bush in FL?
I am not Republican, but McCain, like Obama, speaks truthfully, as when McCain said in Mich. that manufacturing in the typical sense is gone, and we need new education for new skills in the new economy...
Obama and Edwards seem to be more grounded and have more conviction than Hillary, whose campaign slogans change with the wind......
It is unfortunate that the media is controlling the race for the Democratic nominee. I honestly believe that that the media is conquering and dividing the Democrating party by using race and gender cards.... Why is everyone concentrating on Obama being black and Hillary being a woman? Am I the only person that cares about the future of this country. I honestly hope that the American people as a whole would put aside things such as race and gender. I am a strong John Edwards supporter, and I guess that I am a black woman that is racist and sexist. LOL......Please concentrate on the content of which candidate is saying and not the outside appearance....
I absolutely agree with Charles.
I guess being married to the first black President doesn't necessarily give you the inside track unless you're Curly, Larry or Moe (Sharpton, Jackson, or Rangel).
Livia,
It’s amazing how you can bring ‘God’ into your discussion and at the same time urge people NOT to vote for Obama because of his skin or, on your view he is not AFRICAN AMERICAN….what do you really KNOW about ‘African American’???
I guess, ‘Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man ‘- Thomas Paine
Thanks
*Update:
Nevada is beginning to pan out as more of an "Iowa" state. A state that is a battleground Red/Blue State but tends to lean more Red. Throughout the primaries we will see more of the red states lean towards Obama. I think that this is partly due to the lack of support for Hillary Clinton among men and women in the less liberal areas of the country. They view her as a polarizing figure–a lightning rod. Many voters that fit into this category are simply unable to be convinced to vote for Hillary. Hillary's only hope is to count on the bluest of the states: California, Northeast, etc. It will be an interesting battle. Recent polls suggest that men and African Americans are breaking for Obama. This is also important information. Because a large percentage of whites in the South will vote for Republican candidates, This means that Blacks will make up nearly 50% or more of the total votes cast in the primary in most Southern States. This means that Hillary losing South Carolina is a sign of things to come in terms of her performance in MOST Southern States. My predictions are that Obama will carry most of the midwestern states, southern states, most western states, except California. A microcosm of this exists in the endorsements given to Obama in the red/battleground states. He is overwhelmingly receiving these endorsements because he is seen as the lead candidate for uniting the country. This is Hillary's weakness since she is such a polarizing figure. Hillary will likely claim California, and the Northeastern States. This will be much different than the primaries of 2004. In short, I'd say that an Obama nomination is most likely at this point. If it seems unlikely, its because everyone is focused on nationwide polls and not the battle for delegates. States will be won one at a time, and the results will be somewhat similar to the past election with Bush and Kerry, except Obama will likely take the "red" states.
Hillary supporters: can you really call this a "win" with a straight face? You should be embarrassed that she only beat "uncommitted" by 15%!!
Vote your for the person who will best represent your issues. Your Familes are your own individual primaries, what are the needs of your families? Do you have a sick relative whose healthcare is about to run out? Has anyone in your family been laid off? Is someone in your family about to lose their home? If you feel like the Bush years did not affect you and your family, then you probably could care less who gets in the White House. But if you drive a car and have had to give the gas attendant $20.00 dollars for gas and see the needle on your gas gauge barely move then I counter that you have been affected by the Bush years. So the question becomes do you want four more years of the same red tape? Or do you want change? The overwhelming answer for me is I want CHANGE! Of course I can't answer for you or anyone in your family. The question becomes for me, AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN YOUNG WOMAN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I AM ABLE TO VOTE FOR A VIABLE AFRICAN AMERICAN CANDIDATE WHO REPRESENTS MY VOICE NOT BECAUSE I'M AFRICAN AMERICAN, BUT BECAUSE I'M AMERICAN AND I NEED AND WANT CHANGE. IF YOU HAD A CHOICE (IF THIS THING WAS TURNED AROUND) WHAT WOULD YOU DO? HIS WORDS RESONATE WITH ME, AS WOMAN, A PROFESSIONAL, A VETRAN, AND A AMERICAN.
I find it sickening that any of my black brothers and sisters would vote for Hillary Clinton. What claim does this woman have on the Black vote? What has she ever done in her life for Black folks? As I remember the Clinton years her husband bombed Serbia for two months because they were slaughering whites in Kosovo but he did nothing when one million blacks were slaughered in Rwanda. More young black men went to prison when her husband was president than at any time in our history, and with the stroke of a pen her husband could have banned racial profiling but he never had the time to do that either. Instead, these two Clintons who expect Black folks to kneel before them send their surrogates out to attack the character of Barack Obama and then when the media finds out where all the character assassination and dirty politics is coming from the Clinton's try and lie that it came from them. Are the American people crazy? Do you really want to go back to the time of polarization, womanizing, and non stop lying was the rule of the day?? Don't we as a country deserve better? Barack Obama is a breath of fresh air. He is loyal to his wife, is not a pathological liar, and he has a clear vision of where he wants to take the country and he will do so reaching across the aisle working with all people from different sides of the political spectrum. We need Obama. We don't need the past and we don't need or want any more Clinton's.
THERE YOU GO AGAIN .. SLICING AND DICING ... STOP ALREADY!!
Reading through the comments posted here one thing is abundantly clear – this country is so polarized and divided that IT IS going to be not just a question of who's policy will be better for the country – the next president had better be have the ability to unite people and have a demonstrated ability to get people of different viewpoints etc to work together.
Only and until this country – the ENTIRE country not any particular ethnic group – or special interest – is united and working together will this country be able to realize it's potential – hatred anger and divisiveness will not get this country back on track.
c'mon CNN ....can you add any more spin to this story .......she easily got more than half of the vote there.....obviously you don't tell that story....and besides....20 some odd persentage out of african american block is not bad for her considering african american vote constitutes about 12 % over all in the nation.....Barak better get all 100% of african american vote if he wants to win....because hispanic vote is definetely going towards Hillary especially when Bill Richardson endorses her next week......
I'm pretty baffled as to why CNN is twisting and distorting EVERYTHING the Clintons do? I watched Bill O'reilly last night on another channel AND he had three radio talk show hosts on his program, The first was a black man(an Obama supporter), he was asked if Obama was white would he vote for him and he came right out and said "No, I have voted for white men all my life....."blah blah blah. RACIST!!!!!!!!People this is ALL about race, and it's sickening. BUT now let's look at it like this. I, as a white female, if I were to get up there and say.."I am only voting for Hillary because she is WHITE...forget about it...I'd catch all kinds of flack!!! Ridiculous!!! It's ALWAYS o.k, for black people to stand up for their race, BUT it is NOT ok for us to? Don't get it....Well guess what... I will say it on here...I don't like anything that comes out of Obama's mouth and I will vote for Hillary because she is WHITE and a WOMAN AND most importantly she is very intelligant! People should NOT have to live in this country for the next four years with OBAMA, listening to the African American's cry RACE, and I think that's all they will do..FORGET IT!!!!
HILLARY 08'