January 16th, 2008
10:51 AM ET
12 years ago

Potentially troubling news for Clinton in Michigan 'win'

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/15/art.clintonmichigan.ap.jpg caption=" Clinton won less than a quarter of support from black voters."](CNN) - Hillary Clinton faced a grim statistic in Michigan Tuesday night, despite her primary "win" there: results revealed that she may have reason to worry about her grasp on the African-American vote.

The Michigan primary vote was essentially meaningless: the national party stripped the state of its delegates because it held its contest too early in the election season, and Clinton was the only major Democratic contender whose name appeared on the ballot.

Even so, roughly 70 percent of Michigan’s African-American voters - a group that makes up a quarter of Michigan’s Democratic electorate - did not cast their votes for Clinton, choosing the “uncommitted” option instead. Yet these voters weren’t uncommitted at all: in fact, according to CNN exit polls, they overwhelmingly favored Barack Obama, whose name did not appear on the ballot.

Had Obama’s name been on the Michigan ballot, CNN exit polls show that he would have won an overwhelming 73 percent of the African-American vote, in contrast to 22 percent who say they would have voted for Clinton under those circumstances. If South Carolina’s large African-American community votes as Michigan’s, Hillary may not be feeling much ‘southern hospitality’ in that state.

Related: Blacks, youngest voters choose 'uncommitted' over Clinton

- CNN Political Producer Alan Isenberg

Filed under: Hillary Clinton
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  1. Mercurial

    They all say the same thing...change...let's get out of Iraq...health care..my way is better than their way ...blah blah blah. Now we are forced to watch more slander, more racism, and more childish games. When is this country REALLY going to start doing something about all this so-called "change" that we want? We know that no matter who is elected, they really won't "change" things that much. When are the PEOPLE, YOU, going to be done with the B.S. and start making that "change" happen? "For the people, by the people" doesn't happen without the people.

    Good luck America and her people. May truth finally prevail!

    January 16, 2008 02:10 pm at 2:10 pm |
  2. Arkie NOT 4 Huckabee

    I'm content with any of the 3 Dem's being in the White House.
    First choice would be Hillary, but if she doesnt get the nomination,
    of course I'd vote for Obama or Edwards.
    I dont understand the ones who say they will vote for one but not the other.
    That kind of thinking will ensure 4 to 8 more years of the Republicans.
    16 years of Clintons will be much better than 12 years of Bushes!
    HILLARY 2008! OBAMA 2016!

    January 16, 2008 02:10 pm at 2:10 pm |
  3. Kansas

    This constant bickering is senseless. I agree with the commentor "YesWeCan". I too am tired of hypocrite boomers and their constant playing of cards. I'm not voting for Clinton unless she is the only choice over a Republican. She is as any old politician, being a woman makes no difference to that. As for Obama being not shiny enough when asked questions, the man honestly tries to answer the question instead of giving us a soundbyte comment. I want information from these people, not smiles. The boomer media has been flaming these cards at everyone. I agree with Clinton that he has not been vetted well by the media, but when you are a young politician that works in your favor as your record is not long. Clinton is a veteran politician and there is of course a lot more to go over. She can either stand on what she had done or not. No sense and saying you are better than another, you should just say I can do it and let us decide. That is the point of voting isn't it, that we get to decide?

    January 16, 2008 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
  4. jimmy

    Does the democratic party want a society of personal achievers were the sky is the limit on what an individual can accomplish on his own through planning and hard work or do they really crave "as advertised" a complete conversion to Socialism!!!! Heil Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    January 16, 2008 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
  5. John

    Hillary uses a man to validate her entire presidential run! She has not more experience than Biden, Dodd, and especially Richardson. She could not understand change if she took an entire year to learn it because her steadfast approach is deny, deny, deny and stick to your cheating bum husband! I would prefer a woman who has done more for herself than marry a man who won the presidential election. I want a woman who stood on her own and was elected senator long before she became first lady.

    January 16, 2008 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
  6. gee

    Keep the commentary healty everyone.

    January 16, 2008 02:12 pm at 2:12 pm |
  7. Fayth

    Im so happy that Hillary is leading the polls… Obama is a fine man and a Great speaker, ….. . besides Me and many others miss those 90's it was the first time me and my husband were ever able to put money in stocks… we have Been closing CD's and retirement funds just to keep our homes and credit cards… I'm sick of this … Im running out of monies to get us above water… im just grateful we had it to help us many dont and thats a shame… GO HIiLLARY GO

    January 16, 2008 02:13 pm at 2:13 pm |
  8. Rob for USA

    I do hope that whoever wins they wake up to the reality of what our nation is currently suffering from; self centeredness. You can see it in Obamas and Clintons bickering. they are worse than my two kids. Daddy, Hillary splilled my milk; Daddy, Barack pushed my toy.

    I wish that they would look at the issues; like tax reform.

    Another thing to consider is the world political makeup. While there are several female political leaders in the world, it is still a male dominated world we live in. The U.S.A. is starting to get really involved in Africa right now.

    I personaly do not care which one of these candidates wins; either one will send a strong message to the world that the United States really is set for change. Our current status in world politics is pretty low. Where once we were revered now we are hated in many areas of the world. I want to see that change.

    January 16, 2008 02:14 pm at 2:14 pm |
  9. don'tcare

    I don't care who is in the race my vote will be for OBAMA. anything is better than BUSH.

    January 16, 2008 02:15 pm at 2:15 pm |
  10. ballz97fm

    These stupid articles are like screaming "Fire!" in a crowded theater and I am appalled that CNN is using such tactics.

    Forget about how blacks did or may have voted or what the exit polls said. Look at the national general election polls. If you're trying to get more specific about the primaries, look at the available primary election-related polls for those specific states.

    This story is the type of puffery nonsense I expect from FOX "News" (or Huffington Post, of late).

    And to the "neo-liberal" who said "I'll vote Republican before I'll vote for Hillary": That's because you're a Republican. I know it sucks, but the sooner you admit you have a problem, the better off you'll be.

    January 16, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  11. JW

    This is for "Yes You Can". I am a baby boomer and I will tell you this. I am not collecting SSI benefits, never have in my entire life, and I am employed in a career where I see many Generation X'ers that ARE on SSI benefits. It is apparent that the Generation X'ers have learned how to work the system to their advantage.....so called back injuries in order to obtain legal prescription drugs from uncaring doctors among the more popular so called ailments. So, before you make general statements about Baby Boomers....get your facts straight. We are not out there collecting SSI benefits or Social Security and as a matter of fact those will probably be all gone by the time we are able to collect because of all the immigrants in this country that are collecting what I've worked all my life for!!! I've seen this as well. We need someone like Hillary.....someone with experience. We do not need someone like Obama that only cares about how he looks rather than the issues.

    January 16, 2008 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  12. Omar Norfolk VA

    Hillary supporters just continue to avoid a FACT! She can not win in a general election for President. She and her husband are so greatly hated for MANY reasons by a lot of people in the DNC, definitely the entire GOP and a very large percentage of independents.

    January 16, 2008 02:23 pm at 2:23 pm |
  13. Just wondering

    Did Clinton realy win NH? Obama got 37%, Clinton 39% but they both got 9 delegates. Add in the superdelegates and Obama has 12, Clinton 11 pledged.

    No delegates = nobody won MI.

    Iowa was the same story.

    Total delegates...Obama is ahead

    Republican party is just as messed up.

    By the way ... does the Republican and Democratic party really think they can ignore Florida's vote? No one buy Rudy has campaigned here. Last I checked FL was a swing state with lots of delegates. And the candidates are boycotting FL? How screwed up is that?

    Just wondering why no one mentioned that

    January 16, 2008 02:23 pm at 2:23 pm |
  14. Miss M, Stanford, CA

    So it looks like CNN decided NOT to post my earlier comment, sent at 12:04 pm ET. Shall I dare try again? In essence, I said that Barack is not black – he is mixed. How is it that we never hear of his whiteness, only his blackness? I also said that Hillary is polished, smart, experienced and can take on all of the men and that race should not be the issue, although CNN continues to make Obama look like God! I also said that Blacks are suddenly very important, when in most cases other than now they are not even mentioned, and I also wondered whether a lot of this has to do with the fact that Hillary is a woman? And yes, I also said – or tried to before my comment was deleted – that I am a BLACK woman – not mixed, straight BLACK! Hope to see it posted this time around!

    January 16, 2008 02:24 pm at 2:24 pm |
  15. Peter, New York, New York



    January 16, 2008 02:24 pm at 2:24 pm |
  16. Thank God I'm from Iowa

    I am a young (30ish), white, educated female, living in IOWA, that like MANY other Americans had become disgusted and disappointed with our government and leadership. I decided to take interest in this election because the future of my children is at stake, and I feel that as an American, it is my responsibility to help decide the next POTUS. THANK GOD I LIVE IN IOWA!!!!!!! During the last 4 months, all of the candidates had been in and out of our state, holding rallies and round tables discussions. Not having been involved in politics, I was not sure of whom I was going to be caucusing for, so I decided to EDUCATE MYSELF about each candidate. I knew that Hillary was the wife of former President Clinton and that she was a Senator, but that was all I knew about her. I knew that John Edwards had a southern accent because I had heard him on a commercial and that was all I knew about him. I knew nothing about Barack Obama. I went to each of their web sites and found out what their platforms were and what they intended to do as President. I found that many of their ideas were VERY SIMILAR. I also looked at how they had voted on things in the past, and if they had changed their views. I DID MY HOMEWORK. And guess what? I was still undecided because they all seemed to still be good choices(especially compared to GWB). Then I decided to go to rallies for each of the candidates. Hillary and John both did great jobs presenting their ideas. However, Barack Obama INSPIRED me! His vision is not that HE will make this country better, but that WE can make this country better!! He understands that many of us normal AMericans feel that the Feds don't hear what we have to say and that quite frankly, they just don't care, and he wants to CHANGE this. All of the Dems. know what the issues are and they all have similar ways to fix them, but Barrack Obama has bigger visions for this country. He wants to bring people TOGETHER, to work TOGETHER, and CREATE CHANGE TOGETHER. After listening to all of them speak, and researching them ON MY OWN, I came to the conclusion that Sen, Obama would be the best candidate and I caucused for him as did many other people. Iowa had the largest turnout of voters EVER in a caucus, and many of them were new voters. MOST of them caucused for Obama. He also won most of the women votes. And don't forget that this state is 95% white. The people of Iowa did not have all of this "racial" and "gender" nonsense aggravated by the media. We joined together and voted for the person that we thought would be the best for our country. Please people, use Iowa as an example, and vote for who YOU think is the best candidate, not who the media tells you, or not based on gender or race or any other silliness. The future of our children is counting on you!!! THANK GOD I"M FROM IOWA!!!

    January 16, 2008 02:25 pm at 2:25 pm |
  17. Mark

    And they say it's not about race...? Who are people kidding? The Democrats are falling into the trap the Republicans hope they would – a divisive split over superficial qualities... I thought the Presidency was important enough that people would select the BEST qualified person... I see it's about race... so much for civil rights and affirmative action that the Clintons have staunchly defended their entire lives is biting them from the behind from the very people who have benefitted from the Clinton's life long work. The Democrats are sad... they will lose the final election to McCain if they keep going in this direction. Obama is not presidential.

    January 16, 2008 02:25 pm at 2:25 pm |
  18. Michelle, AL

    CNN is a business, as are all the other media outlets, including other networks and newspapers and the like.

    What will sell the most, what will spur more readership - Clinton running away with the nomination, or a close race between Clinton and Obama? Now everybody can be part of this grand historic moment. When Clinton was squarely in the lead, that was interesting enough, but nothing has stirred people's emotions more than the Clinton/Obama conflict.

    I have to admit, I'm right here in the middle of it too. I spend a lot of time reading the newspapers and the network blogs to gauge people's sentiments. But is this where we should be getting information on the candidates? By all means, NO. These news outlets thrive on sensationalism, not on realism. If fair and balanced reporting was done, we'd basically be given a fact sheet on each candidate per their stand on the issues and their backgrounds, and be allowed to choose for ourselves. That's actually what I'd like to see. I'd like to see a list of what Clinton and Obama has voted for and against, and what legislation each has put forward. What a novel idea!

    I have advocated before that everybody do some real research before voting, including reading more than just what is posted on the blogs. Listen to the whole debates, look up the candidates' voting records, etc. Education is the key!

    January 16, 2008 02:26 pm at 2:26 pm |
  19. Greg in OH

    Dennis J.Polak,

    Obama gave that very idea last night during the debate. He has been giving that idea since before Iowa, I saw him on CSPAN talking about that very thing.

    Did you hear that news Dennis?

    January 16, 2008 02:26 pm at 2:26 pm |
  20. sharon walker

    Dear Friends:
    God Bless America Home of the Brave stand beside her and guide her. Do you hear the words of Senator McCain they include you as do the fight for freedom for you and your friends, hear me computer crew!!!

    Rat a tat tat and send out the message this executive branch election is about freedom and liberty for you and me. Executive branch includes the position of Chief of Staff which is the head of our military, each and every branch, education, competitive position the world over. That is businesss and you!!!
    You and your children and your jobs in a competitive and far reaching economic agressive growth. Where are we check out popular mechanic, popular science, Scientific American, Time Magazine Look the Historical Election for the Executive Branch of the USA and inclusive of the Chief of Staff. May the one elected be able to give the command for and against our agressive terrorists that are and have attacked this nation. Every man woman and child that is eligible to vote get out register and vote. Put my messages out on the internet in every language.
    We do not need an inexperienced arrogant jock smiling pretty or from a pulpit in the White House!. Vote.
    Hear me Woman of America all ages. Men where is your testerone. Rat a tat tat on the internet as though you are afronting the enemy of Osama Bin Laden.
    Do not attack me or hypnotise me I will scream to the Americans on the internet. Injured and homeless you have a right to vote. Cities are getting money for you. Get out register and vote. Movin around you still have a mail box. use it register and vote. Students You too!!
    R2D2 coming in! From the Universe in the future space stations are real and so are our military stationed throughout the world.

    January 16, 2008 02:27 pm at 2:27 pm |
  21. steve wilmington

    Most people with an inkling of common sense will not vote for Hillary Clinton. This is the leader of the free world to be represented by a scheming political goose-stepper like Clinton. No one even understands the current taxes and healthcare that she will run up. Its sad to see how attached the Clintons are to bad politicians like Jesse Jackson or shady business men like Bob Johnson of BET. Obama never went to seek the help of black leaders. He stood on his own 2 feet. If anything bad happens, Bill gets called in the sweep up the mess. She is no leader, but a walking, talking blow up doll that Bill Clinton pushes around.

    January 16, 2008 02:28 pm at 2:28 pm |
  22. K, GA

    Black people voting for a first black president is not shocking or not troubling in any way. Why not 100% for Obama? Make less by a fraction since I'm for Hillary by the way. They will back any of the Democratic nominee at the end. CNN is lost....shoes in your mouth....

    January 16, 2008 02:28 pm at 2:28 pm |
  23. Mary, Michigan

    Elisabeth from VT - What? A voice of reason? What a breath of fresh air. Please continue to post your thoughts!

    January 16, 2008 02:29 pm at 2:29 pm |
  24. Greg in OH

    Dennis J.Polak,

    Last night he talked in detail how much money is lost because we stop taking money out after a certain income amount (can't remember the exact $ amount right now and don't want to guess). He said that even Warren Buffet talks about how it is unfair to rest of the people when we pays less tax % than his secretary.

    January 16, 2008 02:30 pm at 2:30 pm |
  25. diane sallis,ms

    NAFTA is the only reason this country is in the shape it is in. Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law.

    We are now bleeding jobs.

    Edwards will get rid of NAFTA.

    He does not take special interest money. Hillary takes every dime she can get her hands on.

    Hillary and Bill Clinton have sold the working man in this country out.

    Edwards/Obama in 08

    January 16, 2008 02:31 pm at 2:31 pm |
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