January 16th, 2008
10:51 AM ET
12 years ago

Potentially troubling news for Clinton in Michigan 'win'

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/15/art.clintonmichigan.ap.jpg caption=" Clinton won less than a quarter of support from black voters."](CNN) - Hillary Clinton faced a grim statistic in Michigan Tuesday night, despite her primary "win" there: results revealed that she may have reason to worry about her grasp on the African-American vote.

The Michigan primary vote was essentially meaningless: the national party stripped the state of its delegates because it held its contest too early in the election season, and Clinton was the only major Democratic contender whose name appeared on the ballot.

Even so, roughly 70 percent of Michigan’s African-American voters - a group that makes up a quarter of Michigan’s Democratic electorate - did not cast their votes for Clinton, choosing the “uncommitted” option instead. Yet these voters weren’t uncommitted at all: in fact, according to CNN exit polls, they overwhelmingly favored Barack Obama, whose name did not appear on the ballot.

Had Obama’s name been on the Michigan ballot, CNN exit polls show that he would have won an overwhelming 73 percent of the African-American vote, in contrast to 22 percent who say they would have voted for Clinton under those circumstances. If South Carolina’s large African-American community votes as Michigan’s, Hillary may not be feeling much ‘southern hospitality’ in that state.

Related: Blacks, youngest voters choose 'uncommitted' over Clinton

- CNN Political Producer Alan Isenberg

Filed under: Hillary Clinton
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  1. ddt

    Unfortunately CNN is still pushing the RACE card. What CNN doesn't want to tell the viewers and readers is that in the general elections the percentage of voters according to race is does not favor their Obama.
    Look at this
    General election voters:

    White 66%

    Espanic 15%

    Blacks 12%

    Asians 6%

    I believe the black community is racist if they couldn't vote for Hillary in Michigan when Whites voted for Obama in Iawa. Interesting, where will Obama win after S.C CNN thanks for working against the Demostratic party

    January 16, 2008 04:02 pm at 4:02 pm |
  2. Chi-town

    Giving all the hate that's out there for Obama and Hillary..amongst Dems. I don't see any of them beating the Republicans. McCain and Romney (despite being a mormon) have a good chance.

    The attacks on Obama are way too personal with comments from Johnson / drug use, Bill Clinton / fairytale, Rangel / stupid, Hillary / backward and it goes on and on. Obama's followers are somewhat fundamentalist...they are not going to vote for Hillary and will likely vote Independent or Republican. It has definitely gotten out of control. Hillary needs to get off her high horse and treat Edwards and Obama with respect. During the debates, she acted as if she's the nominee.

    January 16, 2008 04:04 pm at 4:04 pm |
  3. Dave

    Carol –

    I am a black, 38 year old male who owns his own businesses. I have a comfortable portfolio that I'm building as a legacy in my family name. I come from a middle class suburban family. My wife and I are both college graduates, as were my parents. I worked hard to payoff my college loans and make a better life for myself.
    I congratulate you on your hardwork and success.

    The question that I am asking is, "What has HRC done for the African American community?"

    January 16, 2008 04:09 pm at 4:09 pm |
  4. Texan for Hillary!

    Susan in Texas:

    I like you! You have common sense and intelligence! Yeah for Texas Women! Yeah for Hillary! We will get her elected.

    January 16, 2008 04:14 pm at 4:14 pm |
  5. Beth

    The Obama Campaign is not playing "The Race Card". It's the Clinton Camp that is trying to make it a racial thing. Not Hillary herself but the factions that run things in her campaign.

    January 16, 2008 04:18 pm at 4:18 pm |
  6. Texan for Hillary!

    To PJ and all you men–

    who like to say that Hillary won NH because she showed emotion! Shut Up! That is so typical of the male attitude. If we cry, get mad, shed a tear, dress nice, or get mad or speak up for what we believe in–women get labeled. We are crybabies, too emotional, crazy, or a _____, and sometimes you say we even ask for the wrong that is done to women. No matter what we do we will never do it right in the eyes of a man! We are not robots. But do we care what you think? NO! But remember, you men wouldn't be here if it weren't for a WOMAN!

    January 16, 2008 04:24 pm at 4:24 pm |
  7. Emily, Cambridge MA

    If a man started crying I don't think anyone would think he was weak. But I guess if they did it would be a stunning example of the double standard our country affords gender.
    All people have emotion, is it so wrong to show it now and again?

    January 16, 2008 04:25 pm at 4:25 pm |
  8. Ginny Ca

    Mindy: Since you can't understand why Hillary won in Michigan, let me explain it to you:

    First of all, Hillary's was not the only name on the ballot. There were Kucinich with 21,708 votes, Dodd with 3853 votes, (even though he has withdrawn from the race), and Gravel with 2,363 votes. So, as you can see, there were 4 Democratics who chose to remain on the ballot. In doing so, they gave the voters of Michigan their rightful opportunity to vote. (I'm sorry Obama and Edwards removed their names from the ballot. Interesting though, that they left them on the ballot in Florida where the DNC has stripped the democratic delegates just as they did in Michigan.)

    Secondly, the numbers in Michigan go like this:
    Clinton 328,151
    Uncommitted 236,728

    Exit polls show that Obama got 172,811 uncommitted votes (with 73% African Americans voting for him) and Edwards got 63,917 uncommitted votes. So, here are the real percentages of the top 3 Democrats in the race:
    Clinton with 328,151—55%
    Obama with 172,811—29%
    Edwards with 63, 917–11%

    So actually Hillary finished 26% points ahead of Obama. That's way more than the percentage that Obama got in his Iowa victory over Edwards and Hillary (who were seperated by only 2/3 of a percentage point for second and third place).

    And, thirdly, it appears that the lady is picking up steam and people are willing to brave freezing cold, ice, and snow to get out and vote for her.

    Hope this clears up any confusion you may have about how Hillary won Michigan.

    January 16, 2008 04:46 pm at 4:46 pm |
  9. JK

    What's "pathetic" is coming close to calling Bill Clinton a black man. The truth of the matter is: who will the caucasian Americans look down upon if Obama won the presidential election? Wouldn't that be a change!!!!

    Scary thought, ain't it?

    January 16, 2008 04:50 pm at 4:50 pm |
  10. Texan for Obama

    We Texans (women and men) need to support Senator Obama because he is the right 'person' for the job!

    Obama '08

    January 16, 2008 04:55 pm at 4:55 pm |
  11. Mary

    I can't believe that most people are falling for Hillary's so called experience and her race baiting. She has an overblown ego as does her Husband. I do not want to see another Clinton in the White House, it will be the 90's all over again with partisan bickering. Let's get real change, with real ideas. I feel so sorry for you folks you have been sucked into the Clinton Machine. Where is your memory. your ethics. These people are as bad as George Bush and Dick Chaney. I am a Causus Voter from Iowa and I am proud to have given Senator Obama the win. His candidacy had nothing to do with race, and if it did he would not have won in our Lilly White state.

    January 16, 2008 05:07 pm at 5:07 pm |
  12. william walsh

    as i was reading i read from david that in his statement obama has had more political background than hillery, its this kind of stupidity that disrupts the process, i hope that after he turns 12 that he would realize that hillery was here and in politics before obama was even born, either get your facts straight or if your inept as you must be, then keep it to yourself, as for hillery, she would not let a race card, or any other card get including bills issues, in her way trust me she is all about change and has worked for where she is today for 35 yrs, you may not want to here it, but she may be the best canidate running,
    her background cannot be challenged as far as being there, maby some issues, and there may be a few things she would change ,but her focus on what she wants is clear,and i think she.ll probly get it and become the first lady president,you want change ? you dont think she can handle it? piss her off!! and stand back!!

    January 16, 2008 05:58 pm at 5:58 pm |
  13. Ann

    According to the polls?

    Oh please, like the polls are reliable?

    This is another example of the press gone wild.

    January 16, 2008 06:28 pm at 6:28 pm |
  14. James Izzard

    Thankfully we have learned that we are smarter than the press and CNN journalist who thrust anti Clinton things our way on a day to day basis.

    We see through your ignorance and we will elect the person we think is best without your Lou Dobbs style of ranting.

    I have found cable access television to be a better indicator of the truth.

    January 16, 2008 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  15. fred

    I am a republican...or actually an independent ...but anyway...when have the exit polls ever got anything right.

    January 16, 2008 06:33 pm at 6:33 pm |
  16. Dee Ward Mena, AR

    I would like to know in the first place why African Americans can't be just Americans, or Mexican Americans can't be just Americans. That is what makes the race problem in this country. All citizens should be Americans and if African Americans want to be treated as equals then start calling themselves Americans and leave off the African. Most have never been in Africa. I think it is a shame that "African Americans" will vote for obama just because he is HALF AFRICAN AMERICAN no matter his lack of experience. I wouldn't want anyone to vote for Senator Clinton, JUST because she is a woman anymore then for obama JUST because he is HALF BLACK. We should be voting for the person that is most qualified for the job. So come on AMERICANS, let's join together and all be AMERICANS no matter what our roots are. I am French, American Indian and Dutch, does that make me a FRENCH AMERICAN, A DUTCH AMERICAN OR AN INDIAN AMERICAN.( We all have some other nationality in our backgrounds but don't need to add that in front of the word AMERICAN..) I am AMERICAN and will be voting for the most qualified candidate not based on race or gender. Also, they keep saying that obama never mentions race, everytime he mentions MLK he says that without MLK a black man would not be running for President. I do believe that that is mentioning race.

    January 16, 2008 06:39 pm at 6:39 pm |
  17. scotty morgan

    I hope the end for her will be soon.

    January 16, 2008 07:50 pm at 7:50 pm |
  18. Chris, Orlando FL

    My gosh, CNN!!! How many times today are you going to re-post this story to the top spot on the Ticker?!? Your bias is SO transparent. This story is nearly 24 hours old... get some new news, and stop going after the Clinton campaign!!!

    January 16, 2008 07:51 pm at 7:51 pm |
  19. dee


    January 16, 2008 08:00 pm at 8:00 pm |
  20. Utrena

    CNN please stop with the race baiting... Let it go and go and report about the ISSUES!

    January 16, 2008 08:02 pm at 8:02 pm |
  21. Marie

    Personally I don't care if voters are pink purple or green as long as they vote for Obama.

    As for all thie anti-Clinton posts I'm seeing...I think just the opposite is true. Poor little Hillary gets the softball questions and they never...I repeat NEVER make her respect her time to answer a question...she never shuts up and dominates the entire debate.

    Enough already...I don't want the Clintons again for Gods sake!!!!

    January 16, 2008 08:04 pm at 8:04 pm |
  22. lynn parker

    Rove, who asked you. Your telling us what we already know . Hillary needs your opinion like she needs a fifth head.

    Rove go home, Keep your mouth shut, put a sock in it.

    You made a mess out of advise to Georgie boy, . Keep your stupid opinions and remarks in the bathroom so you can flush them down the toilet. , and jump in just for good measure. NAZIS NOT WANTED

    January 16, 2008 08:06 pm at 8:06 pm |
  23. Fem4Hillary

    I know one thing neither Obama or Edwards will ever have and that is ..... A WOMEN'S INTUITION or a SIXTH SENSE as it is most commonly known.

    Let see........If I needed an heart transplant, would I want an Experienced Doctor or Inexperienced Doctor to operate me? Obviously the experienced one.

    Sorry, I need much more then "Inspiring speeches" as most of you have called them.
    As for the Michigan vote, IF Obama would of won that election and Hillary and Edwards would of removed their names from the ballots...I wonder what the CNN headline would read?

    Go Hillary..!!

    January 16, 2008 08:08 pm at 8:08 pm |
  24. ORION

    don't like Rove, Dee? You think he's crooked?

    and I suppose James Carville and Paul Begala(sp?) never distort anything.

    GIVE ME A BREAK.(as billybuba recently exclaimed)

    January 16, 2008 08:10 pm at 8:10 pm |
  25. Tom, Boston MA

    jessica of michigan says:
    "... frankly im getting sick of CNN sinking to the depths of Fox News in their "reporting" if you can call it that..."

    jessica, you're not alone. far from it.

    most with functioning brain cells have moved on to independent blogs and sites, such as democracy now!. google it, and you'll find a wealth of real information. spread the word! democracy is only as effective as the mind of the participants!

    CNN, get stuffed!

    January 16, 2008 08:18 pm at 8:18 pm |
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