Potentially troubling news for Clinton in Michigan 'win'
[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/15/art.clintonmichigan.ap.jpg caption=" Clinton won less than a quarter of support from black voters."](CNN) - Hillary Clinton faced a grim statistic in Michigan Tuesday night, despite her primary "win" there: results revealed that she may have reason to worry about her grasp on the African-American vote.
The Michigan primary vote was essentially meaningless: the national party stripped the state of its delegates because it held its contest too early in the election season, and Clinton was the only major Democratic contender whose name appeared on the ballot.
Even so, roughly 70 percent of Michigan’s African-American voters - a group that makes up a quarter of Michigan’s Democratic electorate - did not cast their votes for Clinton, choosing the “uncommitted” option instead. Yet these voters weren’t uncommitted at all: in fact, according to CNN exit polls, they overwhelmingly favored Barack Obama, whose name did not appear on the ballot.
Had Obama’s name been on the Michigan ballot, CNN exit polls show that he would have won an overwhelming 73 percent of the African-American vote, in contrast to 22 percent who say they would have voted for Clinton under those circumstances. If South Carolina’s large African-American community votes as Michigan’s, Hillary may not be feeling much ‘southern hospitality’ in that state.
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- CNN Political Producer Alan Isenberg
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I bet those who think as they do that a 55% voter count is a losing vote believe also that Oprah buys all the give-aways she gives on her show, like all those cars and stuff! Get real people of no ability to think, this is swing twisting at its best, just like the Republicans telling everyone they want to go against Clinton in the general election and you fools believe it, Republicans have always hated the Clinton's because the Republicans have tried every dirty trick in the book against them and lost and they are poopin their pants in fear of facing a Clinton machine again!
First off, HRC put herself in a lose/lose position by bucking the party and staying on the ballot. Clearly another product of her desire to win no matter what. The reason it was a lose/lose was because if she won, she was supposed to win and if she doesn't win big it is a let down. My analogy is a football team like Michigan playing a 1AA team like Appalachian State. There was no way to win.
Now the next problem is all the misinformed Clinton supporters saying Obama brought up the race card. HRC is attempting to use race to garner support from poor white voters, which is where a great deal of her support is coming from. Note in the article above so many you consider anti-HRC and racist, the numbers show she is succeeding in winning over those voters.
The race card is deliberately played by the media. This campaign was exciting on its own merits. Then the media had to start seperating voters for no reason. I also support pundit allegation that Clinton's are in on it and know exactly when to use it to their advantage. Also–This love affair that the African American voters are suppose to have with Bill Clinton is absurd.
Anyone voting for Hillary has blinders on and their head in the sand.
She's a crook, a liar, a cheater, she hides things, she blames others constantly, she pouts, makes excuses, fakes her way into your mind with her false 'experience' mantra. Hillary is NO LEADER worthy of the Presidency of the USA. Being smart and a woman is NOT the reason to vote for her.
Wake up women! Hillary's not the answer for our country. She may be the answer to make you all FEEL-GOODY about a woman President. But make no mistake, it's obvious from all the blogs on every site that she'd continue the division of our country and put us on an even longer ride of the hate-train we've been riding on with Bush.
FREE OUR COUNTRY FROM THE CLINTON/BUSH STRANGLEHOLD!!!
ABC!
Has anyone thought of the Clinton supporters that did not bother to vote because they knew the others were not on the ballot. Why vote when there were no viable candidates to run against her - she was sure to be the winner. So, many Hillary supporters probably stayed home where it was warm.
She was the winner, and would have been anyway. She is the best candidate for the job.
Many people who love each other overcome marital infidelities - why should Hillary continue to be critized for making the choice to stay in her marriage. Look at the Clinton history. They have been best friends and supported each other for years.
I am tired of the race card too. Hillary Clinton has always stuck to the issues and voted for the good of all Americans - black, white, red - ALL AMERICANS. Go Hillary!
Oh, yes! How many people that voted uncommitted in MI were really uncommitted? According to the political producer - probably none. Really, someone needs to get a grip!!!
CNN should quit trying to sway this election by biased reporting. Everday, CNN leads political news with sound bites and pictures of Obama before all of the other candidates mentioned. At the top of this blog, the link to Obama is before the link to Clinton. The last time I checked the alphabet, C comes before O. Quit trying to sway the election by playing favorites!
well, stupidity is an equal opportunity affliction. dumb people come in all colors and shapes, black, white, men, women, homosexual, hetero sexual,
between the elephants and thee donkeys:
the elephants are definitely dumber on average. there are two categories of elephants: the real dumb / arrogant / cynical ones, and the greedy murderous liars who enlist the dumb / arrogant / cynical to do their bidding. they are pretty easy to spot. just read this blog for example.
there are generally one kind of donkeys: naive but definitely well-meaning, but not smart enough to envision a real alternative to the elephants... so they come across as spineless or hypocritical, and thereby very ineffectual and self defeating. right now, by going back to the bankrupt identity politics, they are about to blow this last opportunity (to save humanity from the war-mongering greedy neo-cons and the media as their mouth-piece). but they are truly lost. that's why we hear no substance in Obama's "vision": there is nothing there to speak of.
well, there are Kucinich and his kind, who are not donkeys but think they are, or think they can change donkeys into something else...
and there are elephants in donkey's suits...
and there are those who would do and say anything and everything to have a bigger piece of the pie....
educate yourselves, google democracy now and start from there, as my future depends on your intelligence....
This suggests, if true, that the african-american community has rejected Clintonian insinuations against Obama and those of the Pro-Clinton leaders of the community. This fits well with Obama's grassroots strategy... people thinking for themselves and not blindly trusting their leaders.
Only time will tell if it is enough for him to win and if their decision was the right one.
Why do we have to focus on the black /white issue? Why do we have to focus on the sex of the candidates? I have even heard americans say we can't have a president with the last name "Obama". The united states of america makes up people that are black americans, hispanic americans, indian americans, african americans (which could be white), asian americans, etc. This country is a melting pot of people and if you want a conservative all white american which we have had in the past then you should move to Europe. When you vote look at the issues, there are websites that will assist you with picking a candidate based on how you line up with the issues. Watch the debates Jan 30 and Jan 31 if you are undecided. RACE and SEX should have nothing to do with your decision on who is the next president. Not lou dobbs, cnn, or bill oriely no one but you.
Fem4Hillary January 16, 2008 8:08 pm ET
If you insist on supporting a female based on gender alone I recommend you look at Condi Rice! Not the virtual incumbent with virtual experience!
Even with the close relationship with GWB it is very hard to ignore a GOP ticket that has Condi on it.
Back a real American Patriot!
Brooke, Philadelphia, PA- I know how you feel, they should of cut the mic for the leader of the apartheid state a lot earlier.
I know Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have called a truce, and everything is hunky dory and everything, but the truth of the matter is Senator Obama never brought the subject of race up at all and Clinton only backed off of her attacks when Obama took the high road and rightfully stated that Clinton's civil rights committment wasn't an issue and that he wanted to get away from personal attacks and focus on the issues.
The Clinton campaign has been playing some very dirty politics recently, by playing up to stereotypes and having people like BET's Bob Johnson attempt to smear Mr. Obama while Hillary maintains plausible deniability. These attacks have not fooled many people, and African Americans are increasingly realizing that an attempt is being made to turn them against one of the most competent, intelligent, viable candidates to run for president of the United States in decades, who also happens to be African American.
That's what happened in Michican, and that's what will happen in Nevada and South Carolina.
Hang on Hillary – you always had my vote anyway, and I actually do vote
I care so much that I invited ten of my best friends for a "ladies day out" on January 29 – Super Tuesday – my treat
And a Bush is no longer Governor of Florida – thank God! – so maybe the election won't be rigged like it was in 2000.........
I promised them a "girls' day out" – whatever they want
As long as they vote
You always had my vote anyway
Hopefully, I can persuade maybe 7 others to vote for you
The other 3? Registered Republicans – poor sorry things
At least they can vote against the religious kooks and the former mayor who NYC firemen hate
He praised their heroism while denying them a raise in salary
Then again, what can you expect from a Republican?
Oh, PJ, Grow up
Orion – Big Fat Idiot Rove IS crooked
Grow up.....
He's the only one that actually has convincing evidence that proves his crookedness
Sorry....besides, he's a big fat idiot – probably a religious zealot pandering to the Evangelicals
Or else worse, a big fat idiot pandering to his even bigger (although I can't call that bloody jerk fat – I could call him a whole lot worse than fat) idiot boss – LOL
His even bigger idiot boss – who has dragged us into the mud, cost countless lives, spent untold dollars, made us look like idiots to the entire planet
(like most Republicans do so well)
You do that so well – make us look like idiots
I just wish you would stop speaking as if you speak for all of us
After all, your boss has like something like a 38% approval rating
Yet he continues to think he speaks for all of us – a man who is hiding (he does that extremely well – witness his record in Viet Nam) in the Middle East because he can't admit that his OWN PARTY is TERRIFIED that he might endorse one or the other of them – LOL – I wish his endorsement on the ex-NYC-mayor who firemen NYC heroes hate because he denied them a raise for three years all the while he posed for cameramen praising their bravery
'Course, same man who is promising big tax cuts – more "voodoo Republican economics" – we'll all die before the benefits finally manage to trickle down to us
A vote for the ex-Mayor is a vote for our "fearless" – LOLOLOLOLOLOL – current – LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL – "leader"
I find that EXTREMELY insulting!
obama reminds me of the smooth talking guys that are full of it. The type Mommas and Daddys tell their daughters to stay away from.
to down play the Dem. voters yesterday is OUTRAGOUS!!! They voted when they knew it was in princilpe....the American right to freedom to vote. they were free to vote their convinction. to downplay the importance of that away is something other countries do. ...not America
Romney 337,847 39%
McCain 257,521 30%
Dems. didn't have to go vote, but proudly they did.
Hillary 328,151 55%
Uncommited Dem. 236,723 40%
uncommited is divided between obama and edwards. they were uncommited to MI when they removed their names but asked people to go vote. so divide the 40% any way you want ...it does not equal 55%.
Dan in NJ:
I am many things – poor is not one of them
My vote is with Hillary
Obama DID bring up the race card – the only thing that surprised me was how long it took for it to be brought up – I was expecting it earlier, truthfully
As far as I am concerned, "no experience" Obama has aligned himself with OJ and Michael Jackson (who is no longer even black, as far as I can see – it cost him enough to make him/herself White, I bet), Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson
No WAY can he get out of it now
Not even with Oprah's help
............Well, maybe if he hires OJ's former lawyers........
NAH! EVEN THAT won't help him – the "Dream Team" is done – the glove no longer fits – sorry............no acquittal – doesn't rhyme – sorry – for you........
And I am the LEAST prejudiced person you could ever meet!
I HATE that the "race card" may win the election for the Republican idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!
Four more years of crazy is four more years than I would be able to take – we've already had eight years of it
But you just keep playing the race card
You might win the battle – but you'll lose the war
What a tragedy for our entire country – and the whole wide world!
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MARY January 16, 2008 5:07 pm ET
I am a Causus Voter from Iowa and I am proud to have given Senator Obama the win. His candidacy had nothing to do with race, and if it did he would not have won in our Lilly White state.
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EXACTLY THE POINT, MARY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BULLS EYE!!!!
HE WOULD HAVE LOST IF HE DID. NOW HE IS USING IT NOW TO TAKE THE VOTES FROM THE LOYAL CLINTON SUPPORTERS. . DO YOU GET IT NOW!!!!
Did anyone take into consideration whether or not how many Clinton voters decided not to vote since she was the only front runner on the ballot?
So all the other reports are null and void...
Time to recalculate...if it's that importante
With what I've read here and elsewhere, I sure feel sorry for the moderators. Who are they anyway? Journalism majors, being paid minimun wage, if paid at all? If you've ever tried to get help with your satalite dish server they could be from anywhere.
Here in Florida, Obama made ALOT of voters angry by telling us" not to vote, becuase it' doesn't count", as quoted on wtvt fox 13. I'm tired of this guy playing the Race card, telling us " Not to vote" in a Primary, where we have a Tax issue on the Ballot, as well! It would be a NIGHTMARE, with him as a President. The slightest critism by the Press or public and where being "Racist"! Obama, give us a break, you want to be the President. That is a Position that takes alot of heat for anyone! You are proving you can not take any heat! You're angy becuase Hillary Clinton can take the heat. And, What your doing to America is very upseting.
Dr. Martin Luther King, a great Man, would be disapointed with you! On Content, Obama, is NOT the candidate that would bring the U.S. A. together but rather tear it apart!
Fem4Hillary said:
"I know one thing neither Obama or Edwards will ever have and that is ….. A WOMEN'S INTUITION or a SIXTH SENSE as it is most commonly known."
Ah, and that's why she believed the WMD stories from the Bush administration and led us into war with Iraq?
So much for that "woman's intuition" thing...and it only cost 4,000 (and counting) American lives.
I have read many of these posts and I am disgusted with American voters. It does not matter how the candidate speaks, what they look like, or their gender or race. The lack of decent healthcare, the constant money spent on wars, the horrible state of education, and many other issues are too important to vote for someone based on whether or not you like them. Let's get serious and look at issues and vote based on that alone.
Hilary has some great ideas as do Obama, Edwards, Romney, and McCain. Look at what you want for yourself, for children, for the environment, and for your world and cast your vote. Don't do it out of anger or loyalty. If you look at the world, things are too drastic to play the "who is my favorite person" game. This is not a war, it is an election. Let us stop hating and belittling each other over who supports what candidate. It is time to get serious, our lives depend on it.
she cant be hurt, shes like a shiny penny,she just keeps comming back, good luck with your pursuit, you have my vote,, i dont base the election from anything except what comes out of your mouth, let the games begin,after 35 yrs of seeking a position let it be,shes paid the dues now let her in, nothing on earth could ever be worse than the last 7, and bush ! everyone is so disgusted with you and your administration that 90% of the country turns off the tv when you come on, americans cant even stand to here you or watch you, so go home!! your a disgrace to the american way of life which you know nothing about,
go drown yourself and your cronies in a bottle of scotch,
go hillery its an easy win,
Obama, you fell right for the trap. I thought your platform was making "race" a non-issue. You could have stated to Clinton's comment by acknowledging that she was right that LBJ did play his part in realizing the dream because he passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965. By stating through your camp and you that she was diminishing MLK's legacy, you have thrown yourself into something that will eventually ruin your opportunity with your main target: WHITE VOTERS. Dumb move. Dumb move.