Potentially troubling news for Clinton in Michigan 'win'
[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/15/art.clintonmichigan.ap.jpg caption=" Clinton won less than a quarter of support from black voters."](CNN) - Hillary Clinton faced a grim statistic in Michigan Tuesday night, despite her primary "win" there: results revealed that she may have reason to worry about her grasp on the African-American vote.
The Michigan primary vote was essentially meaningless: the national party stripped the state of its delegates because it held its contest too early in the election season, and Clinton was the only major Democratic contender whose name appeared on the ballot.
Even so, roughly 70 percent of Michigan’s African-American voters - a group that makes up a quarter of Michigan’s Democratic electorate - did not cast their votes for Clinton, choosing the “uncommitted” option instead. Yet these voters weren’t uncommitted at all: in fact, according to CNN exit polls, they overwhelmingly favored Barack Obama, whose name did not appear on the ballot.
Had Obama’s name been on the Michigan ballot, CNN exit polls show that he would have won an overwhelming 73 percent of the African-American vote, in contrast to 22 percent who say they would have voted for Clinton under those circumstances. If South Carolina’s large African-American community votes as Michigan’s, Hillary may not be feeling much ‘southern hospitality’ in that state.
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The only thing the Democratic candidates have going for them is one is black and the other is a woman/former first lady.
No one has shown that they have any of the qualifications (executive/ leadership) needed to be a successful President.
What a pathetic line-up.
If voters were upset that they couldn't vote Obama or Edwards, they should be mad at Obama and Edwards. It's not the candidates' fault Jennifer Granholm moved up the Michigan primary against the rules, but there was only one top tier Democratic candidate who didn't run away and hide from MI. Only one candidate who said THE PEOPLE OF MICHIGAN MATTER. Obama and Edwards didn't have the courage to go against their party, obviously too scared of losing the nomination, and leave their names on the ballot. Granholm had their names there. They asked to have them removed. If they can't even fight this small little battle and take this stance for a state of people who really need them the most, then how are they going to lead this country?! cowardly.
Is it just a mistake, or something intentional, that as of this morning (Jan 16), this minor "horse race" story appears not once but TWICE on the CNN "ticker"? What the hell?????
It's a minor story, and yet CNN thinks it's so important that it has two run two copies of it on the same page? What's up with that?
Meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle, Pastor Mike Huckabee suggests that we need to change the Constitution to make it more in line with "god's law", and this isn't worthy of a story on CNN? A major candidate proposes making the Bible the law of the land instead of our Constitution, and this isn't news? CNN, what is wrong with you?
Oh Please!!! When are you going to learn to stop the exit polls!!! she still got 56% of the vote which means to me she got the majority of votes. You make it sound like the black vote and the young vote are the only ones who matter. When the nominee on the Democratic side is announced most of the vote will come back to the Democratic nominee.
I just wish you would stop being one sided on this and let the people vote for whom they want to vote for. How come the headline didn't read Potentially Troubling news for Obama...56% of "THE PEOPLE" voted for Clinton!!!!! You new guys are really getting pathetic if you think we listen to your negative analysis of everything.
Get with the program and stop analyzing everything and just take it for what it is and what the initial outcome is.
I wish you would pay attention to the issues instead of everything being black, white, young, old and every other faction you can think of. You're the ones that are racist!!!!!
Americans have dumbed down their education system until the last few years when again we are trying to get liberal school systems to test and actually have a score of some kind to gage progress, so it would not be too surprising that the media nor the Dems can calculate using available statistics, etc. If the african population in the U.S. is only about 15% with hispanic and other foreigners being around 16% then I guess that would leave 69% of something else in the majority. Case closed. As far as race goes unless the majority of Americans want a muslim in the White House then I would guess it will be a caucasian person.
I am an Obama supporter, but here we go again with the media and their polls and extrapolating meaningless results to an actual upcoming primary SC. News flash, no matter how convenient it is, you can not think "African-American" voters are monolithic. They all don't think the same.
Okay, let me get this straight, I didn't vote for Obama, therefore I'm a racist? Where did I read that, idiot? I heard it on every cable news show and talk radio show in America, IDIOT. I am a NH voter, I voted for Clinton. Clinton won the primary, or more accurately stated, Obama lost the primary. The assumption for the Obama Excuse Machine at CNN was that we were too racist to vote for a black man. The sad thing is, nobody asked me why I voted for Clinton. I am sick of no substance, slogan slinging, bumper sticker candidates saying "yeswecan" "I stand for change" and "hope". How does that help the economic situation specifically in this country. Obama is all about playing the race card. Sorry, I don't want to vote for a has been preacher, who is not allowed to be questioned by the media, and, has no detailed platform. I guess the voters in Iowa must hate white people. That is the logic people seem to want to use. Obama lost NH, because he lost. End of story, by by.
Victory?!? Why is this ballot being portrayed as a "victory" for her? Who regards it as such?
Hillary Clinton participates in a rigged, Soviet-style election, in which her name is the only one that appears on the ballot. However, she is SO DESPISED by the American people that literally HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people - people from her own party, who might as well have stayed home because their votes weren't going to count anyway - ventured out in a brutal winter snowstorm to vote "uncommitted" against her!
Victory? Are you kidding me? I guess the people who run the major media outlets are fond of USSR-style elections.
WHAT IS THE POINT OF POSTING NEGATIVE AND NASTY COMMENTS ABOUT EITHER CANDIDATE? WHY DON'T YOU SHUT UP AND JUST VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE OF CHOICE. ALL THIS SHOWS IS HOW IGNORANT WE ARE AS A COUNTRY. WE READ SOMETHING AND THE ATTACKS START AGAIN.
I GUESS WE WON'T BE SATISFIED UNTIL THEIR IS A RACE RIOT.
What do you think about this? CNN???
Do you want to try and spin this??
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Barack Obama's–the unifiers–church! Spin that CNN.
Spin that in your bias web!!!
See if you can smehow blame that on the people of America or Hillary.
Is this the great unifier!
CNN explain this failure in reporting!
Cory, I am on a social network here in Louisville Kentucky. I have a page dedicated to Hillary. I am getting republicans to sign on everyday! I have only been on this site for 3 weeks yet I have almost 300 supporters, men, woman, black, asian, gay, republican, independant, democrat etc. Make no mistake people are embracing this election and party affilation is being questioned
Goes to show you the black & some white people in Michigan are not ready for a black president. if a black or white person got upset over what the Clintons said they are either looking for something to get upset over or are super sensitive. This goes to show you that if Obama is the nominee or elected president this is the kind of crap we are going to hear every other day...The media loves this crap and love spinning it...Donna Brazzelle, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Roland Martin, Jesse Jackson JR. & Jim Clyburn the black leadership have all disappointed me on how sensative they seem to have been over this they have all been spinning it they seem to have made it a race issue when it is really just political since they are all Obama supporters. As a white male if I felt Obama was qualified I would support him regardless of his race...I am supporting Edwards....BEFORE you vote for Obama you had better give it some thought if he wins we are going to be going through this kind of stuff all of the time....
Rick Reid, I hear that when Leonid Brezhnev and Saddam Hussein ran in elections, they'd regularly receive upwards of 80% of the vote! Funny how that happens when you're the only candidate on the ballot, eh?
Please people, Obama has obviously avoided playing the race card for his entire campaign otherwise his message of inclusiveness would not have rung true as we know it did with his win over Iowa. He has barely retaliated when many people even questioned his "blackness" openly. And how can others say this is a "beauty contest" and that Obama would not be a good president?!? Don't forget that he has more formal political experience than Hillary!
I love Hillary but Obama is a once-in-a-generation candidate who's time is now!
CNN- We decide what to report and you listen.
Maybe she should have used her "southern" voice, to sway those uncommitted voters...
AJ; Montpelier, VT
I lived in Brattleboro. Let me just say 2 things, Vermont, is the greatest state in the union, but knows NOTHING about race issues, just ask the 5 African-Americans that live there.
Obama has my WHITE support, because he is new, fresh, and because of that has less "favors" to give. He is the epitome of what we need, something completely different.
YesWeCan January 16, 2008 7:02 am ET
"As a Generation X African American and Woman I am sick and tired of all this race and gender BS.
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I am sick of all this race and gender politics and you know who's fault it really is? The Baby Boomers and they will suffer politically for pushing this crap and being hypocrites. They claim they fought to put and end to all of this crap, but it's their generation that is the one who keeps pushing it. From Media to Candidates to Surrogates, it's Baby Boomers who are being total hypocrites.
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This is an argument I haven't seen before. Let's blame the old people.
MLK was a boomer. Most of the progress toward rights for both women and minorities was made because a "boomer" was out there fighting for it.
All this talk about race is because the Clinton camp was trying to bait Obama into a race debate but he has to much Class to fall for their slimy tactics.
Why are the black votes so important? I'm glad that Obama goes for American Votes and not Black Votes like the Clintons.
The media focuses on contests rather than issues. Why? This is more fun for them to follow. The Hillary vs Obama "bitter fight" was not a fight with Obama himself at all. It was with the reaction to Hillary's statements by everyone and was a media contest for spin. When the Hillary and Bill Tag-Team accused Obama of attacking her, I lost all respect for the Clintons. The Clintons have lost the game, in my book, due to their poor reaction to the Obama phenomena. Obama is poised and ready to lead. Shame that Hillary is only interested in the form of "chew and spit it out" politics that seems so common among career politicians.
I love how so many people used to chide CNN for being the "Clinton News Network" and now they claim an anti-Clinton bias is present in the network.
Actually, the best part of these "polls" and Ticker reports is watching all of you squirm. I would have thought, by now, most of you would realize how subjectively this information can be applied. The polls do fuel speculation, but we use a lot of explicit feedback in determining a number of things. And yes, there are a million factors going into this poll data. Just relax, take it with a grain of salt. I am an Obama supporter, but I must confess the only knowledge I have of his position on the "issues" comes from websites claiming to compile previous statements and votes. From this data, I support Obama's "fantasy" over Hillary's previously, carefully tailored decisions.
In any case, I hope Obama will survive what I ( yes, it's an opinion) consider to be a hit job by a well oiled campaign. It's also telling that people willfully ignore Bill Clinton's philandering past, yet castigate and demean Obama over his previous drug use. I will play a race card here and emphasis the fear involved in comparing a "black youth" using drugs to a white male's infidelity and debasement of women. Yes, he admitted this earlier and, of course, it's open to comment in the public domain. An open discussion is not the problem, but rather the irrational fear that irritates me.
How ironic – if the CNN prediction is accurate, the black vote will insure a Republican victory in the General Election!
The black vote is not monolithic. Voters have the right to chose who they want as president. Hillary has to earn the black vote and all votes. She just cannot assume because she is the wife and senator of a former president that automatically assumes she is entitled to all the votes. Just like women flocked to Hillary in New Hampshire, blacks and young voters certainly have their right to flock to Obama or Edwards. Give me a break people! Cut the racial rhetoric and move on.
CNNs first commitment is to the candidate whose first commitment is to AFRICA! NOT THE US!
Read for yourself in the post above. That is B.O.'s church's philosophy and CNN the bias news will not report it. Search and educate yourself. This is truth. Talk about divisive words!
Obama is not a unifier. Read it before CNN pulls it.