January 19th, 2008
07:47 PM ET
15 years ago

Clinton wins precinct tie with queen of hearts

(CNN) - You know you're in Vegas when victory at a caucus precinct comes in the form of a card draw.

On Saturday, Sen. Hillary Clinton won the caucus at Mojave High School in North Las Vegas when one of her supporters pulled out the queen of hearts - besting the 10 of spades for Obama.

Tom Komenda, a Clinton supporter, told CNN there was an even number of supporters for the two candidates - 48 each. But the caucus had five delegates, so they couldn't be split evenly.

How to break the tie? A good old fashioned card draw.

Komenda - who sent CNN the story via I-Report - said a sealed deck was unwrapped. But as the shuffling started, he was concerned that the shuffler might have been shuffling in a way that exposed the faces of the cards to some of the nervous onlookers.

"I said, 'Wait wait wait - if we have to do this idiotic thing with cards, we're going to shuffle them the way they're supposed to be shuffled,'" he told CNN, laughing. "Then they said, 'If you want to shuffle, come down here and shuffle. So I went down and shuffled!"

Komenda says an Obama supporter drew first, and up came the ten of spades. Next, a Clinton supporter drew, and a queen of hearts decided the tie-breaker in favor of Clinton. So the final delegate count was two delegates for Obama, and three for Clinton.

It all ended, he said, in "cheers from one side of the room, groans and boos from the other."

Those cheering ended up rewarding Komenda - he was chosen to be one of the delegates for Clinton.

–CNN's Josh Levs

Filed under: Nevada
soundoff (187 Responses)
  1. Surge

    Look at how angry and nasty the Obama supporters get when they don't win. Like spoiled children. It reveals a level of immaturity that is not unlike Obama's own sense 0f self-entitlement. But Obama supporters are very much like he and his campaign. Calculated, in favor of raced-based slogans rather than specifics, immature, hypocritical.

    Obama has been present for hundreds of votes on issues he claims to feel passionately about. So passionate that when he was faced with making a Yes or No decision on passing bills that would affect the people he claims to be running to represent he voted...present. Instead of taking a stand he chose to NOT take a stand so his decision couldn't be used against him later when he ran for president. He actually worked to eliminate any semblance of decision-making stands.

    And his supporters want to refer to Hillary as a typical, calculated politician?

    Forget his lack of experience. We can’t afford this lack of leadership.

    January 20, 2008 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
  2. aware

    canadian13, I think you are a little off! Aloha from a former Canadian. 🙂

    Hillary 08

    January 20, 2008 03:51 pm at 3:51 pm |
  3. E>Dozois

    Is CNN backing Obama,if not,it sure looks that way, every chance they get it's Obama this,Obama that ,and Hillory Clinton hardly gets mentioned,only when
    they have to,and if it's one of her speeches being covered,she is either cut off,or a
    connection has been lost,give me a break,If obama gets to the white house
    CNN will have played a BIG part in outting him there!

    January 20, 2008 04:11 pm at 4:11 pm |
  4. jckie

    No,seriously. Someone DREW the 10 of SPADES for Obama , and someone DREW the QUEEN of hearts for HRC????? Is this South Park?

    January 20, 2008 04:34 pm at 4:34 pm |
  5. E>Dozois

    As a Canadian watching your elections it makes me wonder,how long does it take for an African to become an American,I would think that after a few generations he or she would be an American,I love my country as I am sure you do yours but in Canada when you become a citizen you are a Canadian period,not an African Canadian a Latino Canadian a polish Canadian and so on. If every one is so proud to be an American,than be an American and stop dividing yourselves
    You are all wondreful people with so much to be proud of and so much to look foward to.I have been to the States many times,and have nothing but good things to say about all the people I met in my travels you are very good neighbors.

    January 20, 2008 04:39 pm at 4:39 pm |
  6. Jane

    to Mike T.

    Calm down. Wow, what anger! Yes only in America! Where else can a presidential race be run differently for each party? Why are the rules not the same for the democrats as the republicans? Why can't all states have the same rules? Is that such a strange question? Aren't we the UNITED STATES? Emphasis on United!

    You vote against Hillary if that will make you feel better. Not sure what she has done to you, but you are entitled. I am also entitled to my view. I just think that voting Republican out of spite is really immature. You would really have another 4 years of what we have now?

    By the way, I am from Illinois and Senator Obama has really not done much for me when he was a state senator and even less in the Senate.

    January 20, 2008 06:28 pm at 6:28 pm |
  7. Jane

    All you Hillary haters who claim to vote for a Republican...wake up....you are doing exactly what they want.

    The Republicans say that Hillary will unite the Republican party and that they will beat her easily. They want to scare you to vote for someone else because they can beat Obama or Edwards easier. They will have a tough fight on their hands with Hillary.

    January 20, 2008 06:49 pm at 6:49 pm |
  8. Twigster

    Now why would anybody claim she won the popular vote and then say they were breaking ties by drawing cards? I say count and let the people know the truth!

    January 20, 2008 09:44 pm at 9:44 pm |
  9. EE

    Nevada has 5 Democratic Electoral votes not 582. Nevada has 33 delegates to the
    convention . 25 were chosen Saturday and the balance are superdelegates. You're
    correct we should learn how the election process works but let's start with the basics
    like the difference between electoral votes and delegates to the convention.

    January 20, 2008 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm |
  10. Mike

    Two things to say here:

    1. All this fighting...WOW! As democrats, We should be supporting eachother, regardless of who the nominee is. I plan to support Hillary or Obama, whomever is the chosen one. There's no sense putting another Republican in office. Everyone has the right to vote as they choose, but for goodness sake, if you want change...start by voting for a democrat. To throw away a vote for a definite new path for America just because you don't like _(insert democratic candidate name here)_ is completely ignorant.

    2. To those who think that the counts that are up for the Dem. Caucus in NV are "Votes"... They are state delegates. Hillary received 500+ more delegates to represent her at the NV state convention.To those who think the turnout was poor, listen to this: Over 100,000 Democrats and republicans caucused on Saturday, this being the highest number ever in NV. Do a little political homework and you will find that Nevadans and all Americans are looking for change.

    January 21, 2008 05:20 am at 5:20 am |
  11. Kate

    Obama's people groaned and booed when they did not draw the winning card? I'm appalled. What does that say about his ability to lead?

    Just kidding. I only ask because when there was a story about HIllary supporters booing Obama for a comment during a debate, these boards were on fire with all the ways the behavior of that little group indicated she should not be president.

    Talk about a double standard.

    January 21, 2008 05:40 pm at 5:40 pm |
  12. Gil - California

    Sorry Jane, if the Democrats want to keep my vote it will have to be Obama or Edwards. I disagree that she is the strongest candidate against the Republicans. I believe that if she gets the nod SHE will be the reason the Republicans keep the White House. I, for one, would rather let the Republicans stay in the White House than give the keys over to Hillary. I have no problem with a woman, or a black, or a Hispanic, of any other "group" being elected president. I do have a problem with Hillary and it is not because of what she is, it is because of who she is.

    January 21, 2008 11:15 pm at 11:15 pm |
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