January 19th, 2008
07:47 PM ET
13 years ago

Clinton wins precinct tie with queen of hearts

(CNN) - You know you're in Vegas when victory at a caucus precinct comes in the form of a card draw.

On Saturday, Sen. Hillary Clinton won the caucus at Mojave High School in North Las Vegas when one of her supporters pulled out the queen of hearts - besting the 10 of spades for Obama.

Tom Komenda, a Clinton supporter, told CNN there was an even number of supporters for the two candidates - 48 each. But the caucus had five delegates, so they couldn't be split evenly.

How to break the tie? A good old fashioned card draw.

Komenda - who sent CNN the story via I-Report - said a sealed deck was unwrapped. But as the shuffling started, he was concerned that the shuffler might have been shuffling in a way that exposed the faces of the cards to some of the nervous onlookers.

"I said, 'Wait wait wait - if we have to do this idiotic thing with cards, we're going to shuffle them the way they're supposed to be shuffled,'" he told CNN, laughing. "Then they said, 'If you want to shuffle, come down here and shuffle. So I went down and shuffled!"

Komenda says an Obama supporter drew first, and up came the ten of spades. Next, a Clinton supporter drew, and a queen of hearts decided the tie-breaker in favor of Clinton. So the final delegate count was two delegates for Obama, and three for Clinton.

It all ended, he said, in "cheers from one side of the room, groans and boos from the other."

Those cheering ended up rewarding Komenda - he was chosen to be one of the delegates for Clinton.

–CNN's Josh Levs

Filed under: Nevada
soundoff (187 Responses)
  1. idahosa

    kudos to HRC on her nevada victory. however, my support still goes to obama whom i know has the ability to lead america to acheive its goals.

    before the election started, no one ever expected or anticipated that the democratic race will be this keenly contested. obama was a complete right-off as "experienced hillary and her husband" were highly favored to make a public spectacle of him and the others.

    the young senator is fighting a good fight and rewriting the history books. bill has had to tag with hillary to be able to contend with this dynamic, vibrant and intelligent young senator. little wonder what it would have been like if bill had never been president, or if he had remained in the back seat like most of the spouses of the other canidates.

    i pray that the obama camp will look beyond this recently concluded nevada vote, regroup and move on. the battle continues!!!

    January 20, 2008 01:29 am at 1:29 am |
  2. concerned citizen, Mesa, Arizona

    Obama supporters sore losers! I still believe not every African American is going to vote for Obama. Just because the media says it doesn't make it so. At least I hope that the vote is not divided by race. I hope an honest decision is made to vote for the person that represents what they want for a president. It will be a sad day when that is how we vote based on race. The media is sure trying to fuel this.I don't like the arrogance of Obama and his wife especially, that is why I will not vote for him. Has nothing to do with race. Besides I am stubborn and do not like the media telling me who is going to win. Who are they to try to coronate Obama.

    January 20, 2008 01:38 am at 1:38 am |
  3. concerned citizen, Mesa, Arizona

    Also forgot to mention did anyone else notice Hillary gave a speech after Obama won Iowa but Obama didn't give a speech congradulating her on her win. That sure is a sign of arrogance and poor sportsmanship.

    January 20, 2008 02:12 am at 2:12 am |
  4. robby

    Is Hillary White and if so why has she abandoned her own people by acting like they do not exist?

    January 20, 2008 02:16 am at 2:16 am |
  5. James Brown ( Independent )

    The only thing keeping Clinton in this thing right now is John Edwards. As soon as he is out of the way , Obama will leave Clinton in the rear view mirror.

    Clinton is un-electable in the General Election.

    January 20, 2008 02:16 am at 2:16 am |
  6. Murry

    CNN needs to show Nevada as a toss up instead of showing Hillary having won. Obama has more delegates.
    We don't need another manager, we have plenty of them. We need a leader with vision that can unite us.
    Vote Obama '08

    January 20, 2008 02:25 am at 2:25 am |
  7. aware

    Flip a coin or pick a card – that is how it is done. The Queen of Hearts is quite appropriate in this situation. 🙂

    Obama is premature in his run for president. His candidacy has divided the Dems over race and gender. It also shows his poor judgment in going ahead without thinking through the inherent division.

    Women of every color and race all over the world have been dehumanized for thousands of years, and it is still going on. They are disenfranchized, ridiculed, beaten, raped, murdered, stoned, mutilated, burned, enslaved in today's thriving sex trade, and much more. Don't be a part of this list by maligning any woman in mean or vicious ways.

    Hillary represents hope and help for oppressed women and their children everywhere.

    Hillary 08

    January 20, 2008 02:31 am at 2:31 am |
  8. Nita

    January 19, 2008 8:21 pm ET

    So Latinos can't support a black man huh!! Well we as black americans need to send a message to these latinos and show them that we will support our own candidate. Latinos needs whites to help soften their stance on immigration. Well this will backfire. We will not let latinos treat our candidate this way. If they want to support a candidate because of the color then we will do the same for Barack. GO BARACK!!!

    Its not that Latinos cant support a black man. Get real. It's that latinos cant support Obama. Plain and simple.

    Clinton 08 – At least we haven't forgotten among the other minorities in this country that haven't been mentioned.

    January 20, 2008 02:35 am at 2:35 am |
  9. Nita


    Well? I guess I only have this to say – its all us ignorant and less educated people that will help Clinton get the nomination. Not to mention us old farts – you know? the baby boomers. Clinton is by far the best. Listen to her speak to listen to the song. The song isnt going to help you keep your job or home.

    January 20, 2008 02:44 am at 2:44 am |
  10. Nita

    Revised: Listen to her speak versus the song. The song that isn't going to help you keep your job or home. Clinton is the best candidate running. Please let's not let another republican into the whitehouse.

    January 20, 2008 02:46 am at 2:46 am |
  11. angela

    Queen of Hearts for Hillary
    and 10 of Spades for Obama???
    How funny is that????
    No wonder Obama didn't congratulate Hillary for her Nevada win. He must be seriously miffed. Poor guy. Oh, well.
    The queen of hearts is going all the way to the White House.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Cnn, please post this. thank you.

    January 20, 2008 03:07 am at 3:07 am |
  12. TLC

    Concerned Citizen,

    Please get your facts straight. Obama supporters are not sore losers, in fact we are not any kind of losers. We won in the area that matters and Senator Obama pulled farther ahead on delegates who are actually committed to a candidate as opposed to those Senator Clinton has, whose states haven't expressed their preference as yet . I'm happy with that

    While Senator Clinton gave a speech after her Iowa loss, Senator Obama gave one after his New Hampshire loss. In this case, I'm fairly sure he was on his way to South Carolina. In truth I don't think that either Clinton is a place to look for grace or truth in speech.

    January 20, 2008 03:14 am at 3:14 am |
  13. Tom Davie

    Talk about 'divider' .

    Isnt Obama the great UNITER?

    Uniter of what?

    He has engaged in a race fight, with ONE OF HIS OWN DEMOCRATS.

    He cant win the 45 and over vote, which is the MAJORITY of the voting population, due to his obvious inexperience.

    He cites RONALD REGAN as one of his heros when hes actually supposed to UNITE the Democratic party .

    I bet John Kerry and others are so HAPPY they endorsed Obama now.

    I can just see Kerry FLIP OVER BACKWARDS when Obama admired Reagan so.

    whats next?

    Obama going to start convincing people Richard Nixon was innocent?

    January 20, 2008 03:15 am at 3:15 am |
  14. Tracy

    America and I Love Hillary!
    Congrats on winning Nevada!

    Hillary '08

    January 20, 2008 03:15 am at 3:15 am |
  15. proud florida democrat

    Obama is ignoring the popular votes significence in Nevada. He chose to take his name off the Michigan ballot and tried to in Florida.

    Now his campaign is saying that the Florida vote does not matter!?!?!?!

    For a supposed "champion" of voters rights hes been ignoring over a MILLION VOTERS!!!!!!

    January 20, 2008 03:16 am at 3:16 am |
  16. canadian13

    I am Canadian. I’ve listened to and studied about every candidate; I probably know their web sites better than they do and this is what I have to say. I love Obama, what he wants to do is going to be hard, not just for him but for the entire country but it’s all stuff that needs to be done. I like McCain, I think he would do well and he’s less of a risk then Obama is but I don’t see him making all the changes the US needs. Clinton scares me and it’s not because she’s a woman and it’s not because of her husband; something about that woman is off.

    When I think about the Queen of Hearts all I can think about is the quote 'off with her head!' from Alice in Wonderland

    January 20, 2008 03:22 am at 3:22 am |
  17. jerzee gal

    aware ,what did she ever do for you? Women are treated bad all over the globe, I know she can't change that. Chances are if you live in America you never experienced half of the thing you listed. Not to mention hillary has not either. UNaware is what hillary was the day before the Iowa caucus. You shouldn't vote for her because she's a woman or for Obama because he is black. Vote because you are aware, of the facts!!! He did not divide the democrats, she did by trying to force the race issue. MLK had nothing to do with this election but she brought it up. Pay attention. When did Obama respond to what she said, after she accused him of responding(which he did not!!!)I think that Americia needs some one who is honest, not manipulative. If she wins i a black woman would actually vote republican. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The only card that counts for me is my voters reg. card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!or anybody but hillary!!!!

    January 20, 2008 03:26 am at 3:26 am |
  18. me

    As an Edwards or Obama supporter, I have to say I am sorry to see today's results. If Hillary is the candidate, I will have to vote Republican this year. I can't stomach the conniving witch.

    I truly hope that if she wins, many people either do a write in for their favorite candidate or vote Republican. She is not what this country needs and I would go competely against my political beliefs to keep such a self-centered, self-serving person out of the highest office in the land. Give her the four years – nothing will get done, it will be a dead locked congress because even a good majority of her own party can't stand her. God help us if this evil troll gets elected.

    January 20, 2008 03:53 am at 3:53 am |

    I am a Hillary supporter and I am African American. She has the subtances and the HEART to be president of the USA. Yes, there is alot in trash in her yard but show me a politican who has a clean yard. Let's face it, Washington as a whole is a ugly place and NO ONE has clean hands. But, she has the machine, the smarts and a PLAN of direction for this nation. I am proud to cast my vote for her. Obama is good but I need more than a vision of potential hope and change. I will take her 8 years as first lady and Queen Bee and let's see what she can do in the white house. Currently, this nation is low and the massive bear (USA) is weak and we must recover and recover quickly. Our international standing has been compromised and domestic polices completely ignored over the past eight years, she will definitely be a breathe of fresh air. Please ignored the media and it attempts to predict what each state, each base and each ethnic group will do and allow the democratic process to play itself out. Hopefully, faith with the democratic process has been restored and let's PRAY it holds.


    January 20, 2008 03:56 am at 3:56 am |
  20. Rima

    Swede, don't forget 4- Obama also thinks he is Ronald Reagan.

    January 20, 2008 03:57 am at 3:57 am |
  21. yours trully

    why couldnt they use a game of chess instead of cards, cmon at leat chess would have `em thinking.anybody can pick a card look hillary just picked the rite one.
    isnt this laughable, is this the kind of democracy the us is preaching to the rest of the world??? look at the delegates, hrc has more than any other democrat and God knows what she patted with in return.this delegates then choose the winner at the conventional..isnt it easier to manipulate less ppl than a whole lot.the delegates system is just to keep the ppl ignorant while a few run the show. whatever happend to the popular vote....yea let the people decide. gore won over bush on the popular vote but hey this democracy is run by a few not the majority get that in your head.......i laugh at this kind of democracy.
    anybody mind explaining why we cant vote directly to the candidates. well i hope the delegates,not me, will vote for barack!!!!!!

    January 20, 2008 04:38 am at 4:38 am |
  22. it

    who won again??

    January 20, 2008 04:39 am at 4:39 am |
  23. Honan

    Are journalists writing these stories or idiotic misinformed media hacks? GET THE FACTS FIRST BEFORE YOU REPORT – PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU POST MISINFORMATION!!
    THE OFFICIAL statements from Nevada are:

    **OFFICIAL Statement by Nevada Democratic Party Chair Jill Derby: (Las Vegas, NV) "The Nevada Democratic Party and its officials have taken great effort to maintain our neutrality in the presidential campaign and the integrity of our process. Just like in Iowa, what was awarded today were delegates to the County Convention, of which Senator Clinton won the majority. No national convention delegates were awarded. We look forward to our county and state conventions where we will choose the delegates for the nominee that Nevadans support."

    Las Vegas Sun latest report:
    Clinton’s win over Barack Obama in Nevada gives her much-needed momentum going into next Saturday’s South Carolina Democratic primary, where Obama was seen as having an advantage because of that state’s large African-American population.

    Her victory today included a stunning showing at the nine controversial at-large sites on the Las Vegas Strip — where she won seven of those precincts.

    However, during the late afternoon, the Culinary-backed Obama campaign tried to throw some cold water on Clinton’s victory.

    Using arcane caucus math and a formula that figured in Obama’s results in rural Nevada, his camp insisted that Obama actually won Nevada by taking 13 of the Silver State’s 25 national delegates. However, party leaders put out a statement saying Obama’s camp was flat wrong.

    January 20, 2008 04:41 am at 4:41 am |
  24. Sam IA

    Lynn, if You are a democrat,I'm an alien:) It is spelled DEMOCRAT. Rush must have misspelled it in your talking point breifing:) Please don't vote for the Clintons. That 8 years of economic boom and balanced budget must have been real hard on you. Enjoy another 2 years of the GW recession. I'm betting on the Queen of Hearts!!!!! Don't you Hillary haters just love it, She won on a QUEEN of HEARTS!!!!

    January 20, 2008 04:57 am at 4:57 am |
  25. Tom Davie

    There is no official word as to if obama got 13 and clinton 12 . This doesnt get resolved until April.

    What is for certain is 2 things:

    -Clinton won the state 51% which means she beat both edwards an obama combined. The first time One candidate beat the other 2 combined.

    except michigan ,which doesnt count.

    Clinton won 5355 state delegates.

    Obamba won 4773 state delegats

    seems simple so far. ...................

    Except now we get to be told some votes dont mean as much as other votes. They are going to parcell them all out according to some funky systme that hasent been played out yet. In april it will be finally determined how many you get.

    So obama is taking 13 and hillary 12. as a 'quess' He doesnt want to wait until april to get his delgates.

    So he 'claims he won' cause he might have 13 delegates????

    Even if Obama buys this crap himself, he sould at least concede defeat to Hillary for the state. She beat him soundly on the state delegates and by 6% in the popular vote.

    But NOPE.

    What a PUNK


    January 20, 2008 05:40 am at 5:40 am |
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