January 21st, 2008
09:46 PM ET
14 years ago
Schneider: Hillary speaks partisan language
MYRTLE BEACH, South Carolina (CNN) - Hillary Clinton constantly speaks in partisan terms - that she knows how to "fight" the Republicans - she's been doing it "for 16 years." It's very different from Obama, and it's a tone that is very appealing to many partisan Democrats that make up the majority of primary voters - but how will it play in a general election match up?
- CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider
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This partisan bickering is what turns me off of politics. I'm t i r e d of it. T I R E D. I don't want to hear about ...not only the petty bickering .. but the republican / democratic bickering...
I'm a registered republican and I just want to thank you Democrats for saving our hide this election cycle. A Hillary ticket would be just what we need to finally get our base out in a rough year for conservatives. Hopefully McCain wins the nomination and we'll see once again that only the Democrats are capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory! Go Hillary!!
Obama not looking good at all....wow big disapointment Obama needs to calm down.
Hillary & John are teaming up to boot Obama. If Hillary wins John will be vice pres. Hillary and John win the debate, if I hear Obama say the word consistancy one more time I may vomit. Obama is full of empty rhetoric no substance there. I am registered Republican. I hated Hillary before but she is a good debater. I respect her more after listening to her tonight. Obama is over his head. I can't understand why he is getting so many votes.
Two thoughts while watching the "debate":
1. Short version of democrat positions in the debate: we are going to throw money from the rooftops at you if you vote for us. Every crazy program you can think of, we will fund. Thank you for your vote.
2. How they present themselves:
a. Obama and John–thoughtful before answering questions. Seem to be thinking through the response and reaching deeply inside them. Pretty much take the high road. Try to respond to the questions in a creative way while being clear. I would trust them.
b. Hillary-More reactive than thoughtful. Not clear in her presentation. Far more willing to hit below the belt to score points. Working from a list of memorized talking points which may or may not relate to the questions. Terrible. Makes me very uncomfortable to watch her perform, and that is what she was doing–performing.
Hilary is old fashion and unoriginal and riding the coat tails of last decades president. Look at what Obama has been able to accomplish in a short amount of time. Dem's lost to Republicans two times in a row using Hilary's approach. She doesn't have any idea how to do things differently. The people want Obama, he is the next president.
I fear this may get her the nomination but it won't play in a general election. She will unite the Republican party, not the Democratic party. We have suffered through 8 years of a devisive president, we don't need another one. It will turn off independent voters.
Hillary is the most divisive candidate in the race, on either side. Too many people would vote against her in the general election, regardless of her opponent. Obama would be more able to bring moderates and middle voters into the Democratic camp.
Simple. Hillary with her partisan politics will simply lose. Why do the math. How many democrats are there in USA? More than 50% of the population. No. Not to mention that she does not have the totality of the registered democrats.
If Bill Clinton really cared so strongly about the country's future as HRC just said, then why didn't he speak out louder in 2002 and 2003 about HIS opposition to invading Iraq? Because his wife was in the Senate and had to count opinion polls, that's why.
Leader shmeader. Give me someone who took the then-less popular position on that most important issue of my lifetime, and who doesn't have oceans of blood on their hands.
I don't get Dem voters who support Iraq war condoners like HRC. Edwards at least denounced his support for it. Greatest catastrophe of our lifetimes, and people actually cheer for HRC, who said "YES" to it? She might have saved tens of thousands of lives and billions of your dollars. She hasn't even said sorry.
This "oh, that's not what the resolution was about" is BS! It was a "yes" to Bush's war, don't kid yourself.
Electing a president who opposed INVADING Iraq in the first place will restore international respect for America.
Hillary Clinton understands she is in a primary and needs to appeal more to the Democratic liberal base. When she is nominated, she will moderate her "partisan tone". She knows how to play the political game.
what is her exsperince being someones wife and not a good enough of one to keep bill from cheating so then how can she run a country short answer she cant, and I would be araid of someone like her tries to run a country is just as crazy a her
Why would the Republicans Attack Bill's wife for 16 years...did she hold an office of some kind that we didn't know about? And why does she keep referring to battles that she and her husband lost?
the elections
one says they been fighten for 35yrs .If so way are we still dealing with the same issues every 2 and 4 yrs the answer is once the elections are over AND THE $$$
CAMES IN ITS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THEY
Obama Inspiries others to Action.
RE: Hillary has the base.
All three candidates will have the base. George Bush has assured that. The Democrats will come out in full force for the general election. Do you believe Hillary can reach out to Independents? I do not. However, she rightly understands that the primary election is not the time to reach out to them. Obama is trying to establish himself as that candidate, and while it may help him in the general election, it looks like it may hurt him in the primary.
16 years of experience for Hillary huh...Does this include failing to pass healthcare her one big initiative, and since when does being first lady and conducting book tours qualify as experience?
Hillary absolutely won the debate. Obama could not even keep up – she paused and I I I'd and wait wait wait uh uh uh – speak boy. McCain will chew Obama up.
hillary does NOT win in a general vs. McCain. She beats Huckanut & maybe Romney. she is more of the same negative game. her long winded answers that turned into attacks were too much. Also, the posts by CNN and watching news shows pro-hillary slant...
Reading these posts is a bit ridiculous. I'm a Democrat, but to be so partisan that you vote based upon who can beat the Republicans is on the verge of being anti-democratic. The whole basis for our democracy is to vote for the best candidate, regardless of anything but the issues. Politics are the past the point where they can be played as though they are some partisan game with the Democrats facing off with the Republicans. We are past the point for partisan politics as these are extremely trying times. And for anyone to think that Clinton will face off well with a Republican, thats just naive. McCain resonates very well with moderates and independents, especially younger moderates and independents. Clinton might have a stronger base of support within her party, but you better believe that Clinton running for the White House will rile up some strong Republican support for McCain.
Who is going to pay for the interest rate cap and the three month freeze on foreclosures. Is there ever going to be a time that people pay consequences for poor choices like sub-prime loans or not managing your finances.
Hillary needs to show that a woman (without her husband going out and attacking other candidates) can represent her own ideals and values. I'm glad to see a woman candidate, but...let's see HER...not her hubby.
Senator Obama is the only candidate who can and will bring change. Ex presisdent Bill lies about about Barak's position on the war and Hilary swears to it. It's politics as usual if she wins. I am devoted democrat who can't believe the extent of her willingness to deliberately mischaracterize Barak's position on the war. She's either incapable of listening or lying. Her pointed comments to Barak about the war are divisive and make me rethink whether I can vote for her if she the party's candidate.
John Edwards has shown a grasp of the terrible problems facing America. Barack Obama does not have the grasp or experience needed to deal with the horrible mess that the president we are currently forced to accept will be leaving. Hillary Clinton would have a difficult time overcoming the prejudice of the many American men who still feel the female populace is incapable of moving in any direction except the kitchen.I fear the republican nominee would be elected to the final destruction of our America
Hillary–old school partisan politics as usual. You only have to look as far as the backdrop of people she had behind her at the Iowa caucas speech. She refers to her "years of experience" but incorporates Bill's years in the White House as part of that experience. Sometimes its difficult to tell WHO is really running for the Presidency–Hillary or Bill! Barack Obama at least appears to have the fundamental goal of returning the government to the people.