January 21st, 2008
09:46 PM ET
14 years ago

Schneider: Hillary speaks partisan language

MYRTLE BEACH, South Carolina (CNN) -
Hillary Clinton constantly speaks in partisan terms - that she knows how to "fight" the Republicans - she's been doing it "for 16 years." It's very different from Obama, and it's a tone that is very appealing to many partisan Democrats that make up the majority of primary voters - but how will it play in a general election match up?

- CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

Filed under: Bill Schneider
soundoff (486 Responses)
  1. M. Hawkins

    The Republicans will destroy Hillary if she is elected. More importantly, any center-leaning-undecided voter who voted Republican in the past will run in the other direction and vote Republican if Hillary is the nominee.

    She constantly proves this by distancing herself from "the Republicans" during every single debate. Bad idea, Hillary.

    January 21, 2008 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm |
  2. Quentin

    What's wrong with that? Standing up against the Republicans? Do we really expect Hillary to say, "I will not fight these Republicans who brought us to war, brought us recession 2x, 7 years of misery?"

    I remember in 2000 – Rev. Jackson said Bush=Recession, so "stay out of the Bushes." And I remember Al Gore wanting to have the "lockbox" to keep the surplus. And the media and the GOP made fun of his "lockbox." And both Rev. Jackson and Al Gore are geniuses now. Oh, well. So much for good memories.

    C'mon, everybody. Vote for Hillary just to shock Rove and Bush and Rummy! That will be fun! 8 Clinton golden years, 8 Bush recession years, then boom – the people voting to get the Clintons back. That will make Rove really, really miserable.

    But with all the nasty messages here, I might just really vote for McCain – and in the GOP primaries – we will all say – 4 MORE YEARS!

    January 21, 2008 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm |
  3. kelly

    We all know how devisive Hill-Billies can be. Many Democrates will vote for MCCain before they EVER vote for to put the Hill-Billies back in office!! This is the Dem's election to lose and if Monika and the strained dress becomes the general election topic, all change voters in this election will vote for MCCain!

    January 21, 2008 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm |
  4. Murry

    Barack Obama is the true uniter. America can't get anywhere if we always think it's us against them. He's the one with the true track record of uniting sides.

    January 21, 2008 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm |
  5. Margaret Bradley

    It's great to finally see Senator Obama stand up for himself against the Clinton machine. Obama 08!!!

    January 21, 2008 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm |
  6. Kim N.

    Why aren't we wary of this Family Dynasty leadership mentality that we are buying into? Haven't we had enough already? Is this what we mean by change?

    January 21, 2008 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm |
  7. Dave

    Talk or no talk.... she knows what she is talking about and can get things done !!!

    January 21, 2008 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm |
  8. Kat

    Hillary is incredibly divisive. Do we really want another bull-headed president? It is cynical to write that Obama could not win the general election. He could.

    January 21, 2008 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm |
  9. Sue

    I'm an independent voter who has voted for Bill Clinton in the 90s and Republican the last two elections. I have always wished to have a candidate that integrates the facets of both parties that I like. I have yet to decide which way I will vote in the next election (republican or democrat). But what I do know is that I am tired of the same old partisan politics and looking for something different. In a general election, you will find there are a lot of independents and that the independent group of voters could sway the election one way or the other. Partisan politics may not always be the answer.

    January 21, 2008 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm |
  10. Betty

    This debate(?) was the most poorly organized and managed to date. It seems to me that neither Obama nor Clinton could follow the rules in the beginning of the show. I had expected to hear a DEBATE on the issues and the way they expected to implement their ideas. Very disappointed in CNN. It seemed the moderator had more interest in continuing the accusation than providing a platform of ideas.

    January 21, 2008 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm |
  11. Ann

    Hillary's partisan and divisive tone will not serve the party well in the general election. This is NOT what people want and will not bridge what has become the nasty political tenor that has now caused complete policical gridlock and few constructive solutions. It is congress all over again. We will loose with her.

    January 21, 2008 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm |
  12. Peter

    The difference between Hillary & Obama is simple: Hillary will divide the country and Obama will bring us = Republicans, Democrats and Independants, together.

    January 21, 2008 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm |
  13. AS

    Will she continue to play "the game" if elected.

    Isn't that how we've gotten into the mess we're in – with Congress and the President both rushing to the bottom of approval ratings barrel?

    I really *really* fear for the generation after me. We had it bad ('why pay taxes to educate someone else's kid' was the mantra), but once the baby boomers get fully into power, they are going to shore up their Social Security funds, since they are retiring over the next ten years, and that will come at the expense of funding for schools, grade and collegiate levels, not to mention health care and housing problems. Someone's got to keep an eye out for the kids.

    I'm sorry Hillary – I'm a female, but I'm also one of those bitter Gen X'ers. But I'm going to put together what few shreds of optimism I have left, and vote with the Gen Y'ers for Obama and a fresh start.

    Game Over.

    January 21, 2008 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm |
  14. nate

    The last time I checked Hillary has been in the Senate for the last 8 years. Where was the other 8 years she talks about. Being the wife of a president does not make you a politician. Apparently she spent those 8 years allowing her home to get out of control. Imagine what she would do with our country!

    January 21, 2008 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm |
  15. sam

    Ellen, how can you back Hillary in that statement? Of course we need someone who is tough under pressure. Do you think Hillary is tough under pressure? Please correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't Hillary in tears just a few days ago?

    Lets talk about important issues, like why do the Democrats only speak of troops in Iraq, but make no effort to mention troops in other countries such as Japan, South Korea, Germany etc. Yes we are in a war, but when has the world not been in war in some way. Lets be reallistic here, we all want peace but until we have people that won't kill themselves to kill others that isn't going to change.

    January 21, 2008 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm |
  16. Stephen

    I'm a devoted republican but Obama will get my vote should he be your nominee. I would not vote for another Clinton dynasty.... such a witch.

    January 21, 2008 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm |
  17. Bobby L

    Obama clearly lost the SC debate. He fumbled around badly on most of the Questions and definately lied when he said he didn't praise Ronald Reagan. I've seen that quote played and replayed and Obama did praise the republicans and Ronald Reagan. Sen Clinton's Reference to Tony Rezco who is a key Obama supporter who is now facing an indictment on money laundering among other things, was a comment and an issue that will dog Obama even more now that sen. Clinton raised this issue publically.
    The right-wing spinners are clearly spinning that Hillary lost. but that was just not true. Hillary kicked Obama in the b**ls with the Rezco reference and that will raise the question nationally. Ultimately that will hurt Obama as people examine the issue with respect to Obama's character.

    January 21, 2008 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm |
  18. Louis - CT

    Obama has nothing but the ability to give good speeches. Other than that talent, there isn't much else. He stumbles when it comes to policy, because he doesn't know where he stands from one day to the next. Hillary has the strength, experience and ideas to lead this country. People may not like her, but she can and will make a great president.

    January 21, 2008 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm |
  19. Division Bell

    From the 1st half of the debate, it is obvious who loves to play status-quo politics and cares more about slinging dirt than discussing what matters to Americans at this moment in time. Hillary will bring nothing but mistrust and angry division in any office she is in. We cannot afford this behavior at this time. We need someone to unify and build our country up from a very weakened state. Hillary will only DIVIDE the country much, much further. National and financial security is at stake.

    January 21, 2008 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm |
  20. Jose Rios

    Obama is too weak on National security. the republicans will eat him up. He is not tough enough. The hope speeches won't help him in the general.

    January 21, 2008 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm |
  21. Carmen In Philly

    Has no-one learned??? They said the same thing about Hillary running in NYC (about hatred and division)...I am tired of dems with no spinal cord...or some sort of "hand ringing/above the fray" strategy. Remember 2004? Remember John Kerry? It didn't work with 'rising above' SwiftBoat and it won't work in whatever la-la-land most libs live in!!! No one knows how to win like the Clintons and I am proud that we finally have someone not afraid to dirty their hands. You think the repubs will play nice come the fall??

    January 21, 2008 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm |
  22. Enrique

    Partisan politics didn't get us universal health care in the 90s. What makes Hillary think that partisan bickering will get us universal health care now?

    January 21, 2008 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm |
  23. mimi

    I htink edward benefits most tonight afetr sucha personal fight between clintons and obama.
    The republican likes this a lot
    they may say" keep going like this my friend".
    the clintons need to "chill out"

    January 21, 2008 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm |
  24. Bruce Ross

    Hillary got slammed in this debate. She was shown to distort the truth on several occasions... this was a great debate for Obama.

    January 21, 2008 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm |
  25. tobiejo

    the real winner is John Edwards, he maintained the Dignity like a President should and would under fire from both sides.

    January 21, 2008 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm |
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