March 1st, 2008
12:55 PM ET
15 years ago

Clinton supporter rips Texas caucus system

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Cisneros made calls on Clinton's behalf from her campaign office in Laredo, Texas last month."]

SAN ANTONIO, Texas (CNN) – Former HUD secretary and Hillary Clinton supporter Henry Cisneros excoriated Texas’ arcane electoral process as “a great burden on voters” and said that losing the delegate count on Tuesday because of the state caucuses would be “exceedingly unfair.”

Cisneros was speaking to a group of Clinton volunteers who had gathered on Saturday morning at Fox Tech High School to train for Tuesday evening’s state caucuses, which follow a day of primary voting. One-third of the state’s pledged delegates are allocated through the caucuses, while the rest are determined by the day's primary vote.

Clinton herself rallied the troops after Cisneros, formerly a mayor of San Antonio, spoke.

“This is not the ideal way,” he told an audience made up of Clinton volunteers from 20 or so area counties. “Ideally it would just be a straight out vote, and that would determine who gets the delegates, but they created this intricate system in Texas, which frankly is a great burden on voters.”

Cisneros said a scenario in which Clinton wins the primary vote, but loses the evening caucuses, would be “exceedingly unfair” and warned against being “outpowered” by Barack Obama precinct teams, who have overwhelmed their Clinton counterparts in earlier caucus-based contests, outcomes he described as “tragic.”

As volunteers leafed through instructions on recruiting 25-member precinct teams, Cisneros told them, “we cannot throw away our hard work and our win by not being there at the caucuses.”

- CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Texas
soundoff (427 Responses)
  1. Rebecca - Fresno, CA

    TheClinton campaign needs to stop all of the complaining about a system 3 days before the primary/caucus.......... just get out and convince people why they should vote for your girl..isn't that what it is all about? Just 2-3 weeks ago, Hillary was expected to win this state. Now, according to the polls, it is dead even...and in others, Obama has pulled ahead. If she has huge leads in the polls for the past year and suddenly, when Sen. Obama begins to meet with the voters, he quickly pulls up even or exceeds Hillary in the polls, it isn't the voting system in Texas that is the problem....... must be her message!! The Clinton campaign just doesn't get it!!!!

    March 1, 2008 04:46 pm at 4:46 pm |
  2. Alice from MI

    Change? Um...

    John McCain is a change – if in name only; or is he a change for the

    Barack Obama is a change – a change for the better; but can he get his programs through?

    Hillary Clinton is a change – a change for the best! Hillary delivers
    because she never gives up!

    Change for the best! Never give up! Go Hillary!!

    March 1, 2008 04:46 pm at 4:46 pm |
  3. Warren


    Who is saying we don't want a woman as President? I think all are saying Hillary is the wrong woman!

    March 1, 2008 04:46 pm at 4:46 pm |
  4. texas teacher

    The Obama campaign has done a great job informing it's supporters about the "Texas Two Step." Hillary only has her poorly led campaign to blame if her supporters don't show up at their caucus locations. That or they just aren't motivated enough by her to take the extra step!

    Woodlanders for Obama 08!

    March 1, 2008 04:47 pm at 4:47 pm |
  5. NOBama

    I'm so sick and tired of CNN and all the other media giving BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA A FREE RIDE!!!

    They RARELY ever post any Hillary supporting bloggs!

    Everything in the media is PRO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!!

    It gets very OLD after awhile!!!

    Come on Media...............Let's be FAIR HERE!!!

    March 1, 2008 04:49 pm at 4:49 pm |
  6. Sara from ARIZONA

    Business as usual for Clinton.

    March 1, 2008 04:49 pm at 4:49 pm |
  7. CTvoter

    If you don't want to follow the rules of the game, stop playing.

    March 1, 2008 04:50 pm at 4:50 pm |
  8. Rob

    She is gonna lose BOTH the primary and caucus. That weak argument that Obama doesn't do well in primaries is garbage. He has whipped her in primaries AND caucuses since Feb 5th. And the excuse that people are being "shamed" into voting for Obama in a caucus is weak too. Grown adults shouldn't be ashamed of who they vote for.

    So please stop blaming Obama's success on African Americans. There aren't many of them in Wisconsin, Washington St., Idaho, Maine, Vermont, N. Dakota, Nebraska, and Minnesota. All places were Obama has crushed her.

    Its time to let it go.

    March 1, 2008 04:50 pm at 4:50 pm |
  9. Sarah

    BY HOOK OR BY CROOK, Clinton thinks she should be appointed President. Voters don't count.

    March 1, 2008 04:51 pm at 4:51 pm |
  10. Cascadian, Oregon

    If you can't win fairly, cheat.

    March 1, 2008 04:51 pm at 4:51 pm |
  11. ddt

    The rules for any Democtratic candidate to win the nominee, she or he has to get 2025 delegates. For all of you Obamamania, he doesn't have for delegates even if he wins the rest of the states. If one rule is broken that means all of them should be broken. If that is done then Clinton will claim her delegates from Florida and Michigan. Tell me where Obama will be. This election should be determide at the convention in Denver. All of you Obamamaia just shutup

    March 1, 2008 04:52 pm at 4:52 pm |
  12. Anita Martin

    Does !"? She didn't have a problem with Texas when she thought it would be the state to save her campaign. I am so sick of Hillary Clinton, I wouldn't vote for her if she was running against George Bush and I'm sick of him too. Imagine that.

    March 1, 2008 04:52 pm at 4:52 pm |
  13. Mike

    First of all, Hillary should not even be behind in the delegate count, she won Florida and Michigan. Their moving of their primaries should have no affect on wether their delegates are alowed in the convention, that, is completly un-democratic, maybe before Obama supporters want to start bashing the super delegate system, they should let all of the pledged delegates cast their rightful vote. If Hillary can not beat Obama in the primary, I, as a registered democrat will be voting for McCain. We can not allow Obama this kind of power.

    March 1, 2008 04:54 pm at 4:54 pm |
  14. From Portland, OR

    Good lord! What a bunch of whining OBAMA supporters!! Let me flip the argument around. I do not see how this is any different from you and Obama whining about "Super Delegates" Get a life. Get REAL. And presidency is not a Church. So enough of the southern Church style sermons from Obama. America is not ready to be Short CHANGEd!!

    March 1, 2008 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
  15. PS in VA

    Concerned in Hawaii-You are another naysayer.

    The Naysayers said:

    –Obama would be out by Super Tuesday
    –White people would not vote for him
    –He's only winning caucus states
    –Hillary has more experience (obviously not since his is out-campaigning her)

    You are wrong about him losing the election in November. This Republican household WILL vote for Obama in November.

    March 1, 2008 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
  16. Sarah

    Yet another reason to vote Obama, 08' People, you watch, if she doesn't win, she will sue and claim voter fraud. Setting the stage.

    March 1, 2008 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
  17. Anita Martin

    "Meet me in Texas!" So I can contest their voting system when it doesn't turn out the way I thought it would. I wonder will this state not matter either if she doesn't win it. If she should somehow miraculously win the nomination and general, think of all the states that won't matter to the president.

    March 1, 2008 04:56 pm at 4:56 pm |
  18. Maureen Rico

    Hillary Clinton it is time to go. You can't take it , The voters speak loudly. They do not want you in charge.

    And as for the Obama bashing:
    every debate all you really centered on because it is so important was Health Care. Obama wanted to debate this issue but o no all you focused on was Health Care.

    As for your 3AM ad I hope and pray it is Obama that would be answering any phone call to the White House NOT YOU!!

    Today you talked on tv at a rally saying the same words and things Obama said about the war and worry about Afghanistan and AlQuida.

    Use your own ideas and words please. Don't mimic the next President of the USA.


    March 1, 2008 04:57 pm at 4:57 pm |
  19. Think - FL

    Yea... CNN forgot to include the rest of the headline "Clinton supporter rips Texas caucus system because it no longer favors her".

    It goes right along with "Clinton supporter rips DNC for refusal to seat Michigan and Florida delegates because Hillary now needs them".


    "I'm truly honored to be sitting here with Barack"... 2 hours later... "Shame on you Barack!" when she knew about the stupid flyers days before.

    Sorry, but her supporters are largely a bunch of either ignorant fools, foreigners, feminists or just flat-out idiots. How can people support her? It makes me really question the populace.

    March 1, 2008 04:57 pm at 4:57 pm |
  20. Let's keep our eye on the ball!!!!


    Statement of fact:
    Hillary Clinton is currently losing her battle for the Democratic Nomination. That is not opinion. It is, what it is.

    Her campaign seems to have degenerated into a "scorched earth" campaign!

    Exactly what the Democratic Party does 'not' need after 8 incredibly long years of:

    lying, dirty-divisive-partisan politics, cheating in elections, torture, death, destruction, an illegal war, cherry-picked intelligence, $4.00 gas, redistribution of wealth, Haliburton no-bid contracts, consolidation of media, being propagandized, pandering to the religious right, fox news, rush limbaugh, hannity's america, signing statements, rejection of treaties, rejection of the constitution, rejection of Geneva conventions, suspension of habeus corpus, the treasonous outing of a CIA agent, cover-ups, pardons, Hurricane Katrine, Brownie-cronyism, stacking the courts, politically motivated dismissals, politically motivated prosecutions, one party republican rule and "2" recessions in a single presidency !!!!!


    Democrats..... remember WHO we are and WHO and WHAT we

    for ANYONE who can answer yes to the above question, you can never again, beyond the day you cease to exist, call yourself a Democrat.

    March 1, 2008 04:58 pm at 4:58 pm |
  21. bond

    BOO FREAKIN HOO HOO! I didn't hear any complaints from Billary when she was up 20 points in the polls five months ago and was crowned the presumptive Dem nominee. Now that she's been dominated by Obama and after the voters in 24 states have spoken loud and clear, she and her minions want to complain and make empty threats of suing everyone who stands in her way. The smell of desperation smells... and Clinton really stinks of it!!!


    March 1, 2008 04:58 pm at 4:58 pm |
  22. Jack

    Once again, the Clinton campaign is gearing up for another excuse why they lost. Where is this great Clinton machine the media talked about for the last year? The closest thing to a "machine" that I've seen is this automated finger pointer device that I have to admit does a pretty good job in it's own right. It's been very well designed and does a great job of taking responsiblity off the Clinton team by redirecting any responsibility at whatever outside source it can find. I did hear, though, that one of their other "machines", the automated crying machine, broke down very early in the campaign and but is expected to be up and running again very soon.

    March 1, 2008 05:00 pm at 5:00 pm |
  23. Paul From Iowa

    Who do I want to answer the phone at 3 am. Not a whiny Hillary Clinton. I can see it now, 3 am the phone rings Hillary (superwoman) picks it up. there is trouble in the world. She puts on her superwoman outfit, but never shows up to help. People look everywhere for her, Finally Bill opens the closet, and at his feet there is Hillary Crying, whining and all she can say, is I will sue.

    If Hillary is nominated I will vote for Bugs Bunny.

    March 1, 2008 05:00 pm at 5:00 pm |
  24. david





    March 1, 2008 05:02 pm at 5:02 pm |
  25. moll,il

    Bee – I agree with you that some of the comments on this posting are shameful towards Hillary. HOWEVER, do you think it is fair and appropriate for Hillary to use the gender card. Vote for me because i am a women and that would be and change for the better. Have you ever heard such nonsense come from Obama? NO, he cant use that method, he;d be a racist..Maybe he's winning because he's just plain better than her.

    March 1, 2008 05:03 pm at 5:03 pm |
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