March 4th, 2008
10:03 PM ET
14 years ago

Schneider: Clinton's delegate problem

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(CNN) - In what may be bad news for Clinton, Democrats across all four states overwhelmingly say they want super delegates to vote based on which candidate finishes ahead in the pledged delegate count at the end of the primary season.

Majorities of Democrats in Texas (62 percent), Ohio (61 percent), Rhode Island (57 percent) and Vermont (66 percent) all said the super delegates should cast their vote for the primary winner, not for who they think can best win in November.

Why is this bad news for Clinton? As CNN's John King has made clear on his interactive delegate map, it is nearly impossible for Clinton to catch up to Obama's pledged delegate count. She would have to win the rest of the states convincingly to do so, given that the party allots delegates proportionally. Barring large blowouts in the remaining contests, its likely Clinton will finish behind Obama in pledged delegates.

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–CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

soundoff (351 Responses)
  1. Eugene

    Yeah Schneider....only you and John kong believe in those lies...

    March 4, 2008 09:28 pm at 9:28 pm |
  2. Jim in Oregon

    SHE IS DONE...........There is just no way she can catch up period.

    March 4, 2008 09:28 pm at 9:28 pm |
  3. Louis, New Orleans, LA

    At this point it seem Hillary Clinton wants to pull the entire Democratic party down with her. If she doesn't win the nomination then the party should loose the general election. SHe has attacked Obama more than what the republicans would have done or do. She doesn't care about the American people, she keeps decieving people and herself that she is a fighter. ALl she fights for is her super ego. UNITE THE PARTY NOW OR RISK LOOSING THE GENERAL ELECTIONS TO THE REPUBLICANS

    March 4, 2008 09:28 pm at 9:28 pm |
  4. king from toronto

    one drop out".one to go.guess who's next?i can tell you it's not obama.

    March 4, 2008 09:28 pm at 9:28 pm |
  5. Liz Wetzel

    Obama should drop now. LOOK, despite all his money coming from somewhere, despite of all the concerts, despite the negative media protrayal of Clinton, she has real supporters out there, the real democrats. Even if you call them older from 30 to infinity, these are the real people who thinks about issues that can affect their kids and their real life.

    The Obama-bots are just partying, they dont know what real life is. OBama should give up now. He should just keep the money he has. Hillary is the clear winner on this if you count the odds against her.

    March 4, 2008 09:28 pm at 9:28 pm |
  6. Cindy

    Don't count her out, Schneider... She'll still spin it to her advantage. She's good at that stuff.

    March 4, 2008 09:28 pm at 9:28 pm |
  7. Michael-WI

    I really don't know how this is a question of who to vote for..... Hillary is going to continue to send jobs overseas. She was clearly for NAFTA.... which is fact. Since our economy is in the ditch, how is this a question? Blind leading the blind in Ohio? Vote for Obama!

    March 4, 2008 09:29 pm at 9:29 pm |
  8. How can this be?

    This only works, if, as you say, superdelegates vote based on which candidate finishes ahead in the pledged delegate count at the end of the primary season. They DON"T always, though, and you can't make them, Bill, even if you're just itching for Obama to be the next nominee.

    March 4, 2008 09:29 pm at 9:29 pm |
  9. Mike


    I'm sick of people saying that. No candidate campaigned in those states. If you want to be fair, let's be the democratic country we are. Let them campaign and fight it fair. None of this, "well she won there so you should add it in." All the candidates (and voters) knew that there were no delegates being given to them. So either suck it up and accept it or just let it be fought democratically.

    March 4, 2008 09:29 pm at 9:29 pm |
  10. Mike

    haha oh well Hillary, you tried. Follow Mike Huckabee's outstanding sportsmanship and drop out. Lets get this party united behind Obama and end this extremely scare long shot. Sure if this condition is right at this time in this place with these people, you MAY break even with Obama. But how many what-ifs will it take to justify you continuing your campaign Hillary?

    I'm sorry, but I think you should grow up and drop out. I know it was your dream, but there are bigger things out there than you.

    March 4, 2008 09:29 pm at 9:29 pm |

    If the superdelegates vote against our vote ore change the rules of the game in mid play,we will vote for the Bush man McCain. You can take that to the bank.

    March 4, 2008 09:29 pm at 9:29 pm |
  12. Connie

    Demo party creatively invented all these rules against general election, and that's why they only have Clinton as president in the last 28 years.
    Winner take it all, use primary vote only, and count all states.Follow the rules of general election, that's the only way you can choose someone who will WIN eventually.
    May take another 8 or 16 years for them to realize this, go GOP!

    March 4, 2008 09:29 pm at 9:29 pm |
  13. Dusacre

    Hillary Clinton will not be the democratic nominee.

    She knows it, but the pride of the Clintons is just too big.

    She is using the politics of destruction on Obama. But the Clintons will never again have the special place they had in the Democratic Party.

    March 4, 2008 09:29 pm at 9:29 pm |
  14. Ray - NJ

    I thought this meant they should vote for who won THEIR state they are from?

    March 4, 2008 09:30 pm at 9:30 pm |
  15. Adam

    Except Hillary agreed that those shouldn't count. That decision stands by party rules (which don't need her support anyway).

    At this point she really needs to think about the party and how people will start seeing her. The view of her is going to get increasingly negative as she fights to hold on to a losing battle. People may genuinely thing she is the best one for the job, but at this point it really is nigh on impossible for her to get that number of delegates. If she stays in, she will be viewed as in it for herself, not for the democratic ideals.

    March 4, 2008 09:30 pm at 9:30 pm |
  16. Jen

    Hillary, please step down for the sake of the Democratic party. We need to unite so we won't fall! Of course she is going to continue because she'd rather her buddy McCain win.

    March 4, 2008 09:30 pm at 9:30 pm |
  17. WestCoastMessenger

    Bill, it is not that simple as dictating the outcomes by a poll. If Hillary makes a comeback, as we see her beginning to do, and Obama begins weakening, as we see him starting to do, despite outspending her 3 to 1 in some cases, then the superdelegates are going to have to take a long hard look at what looks like a close race, and decide what is best for the party. In fact, we are seeing that the NAFTA wink and the REZKO fact-dodging are beginning to cut into the squeaky-clean image of Obama, and people are starting to realize it is busines as usual with him. I think much will ride on Pennsylvania still to come.

    March 4, 2008 09:31 pm at 9:31 pm |
  18. sherry perry

    I was'nt able to vote in Fla,but sorry im backing Obama all the way.Let this thing end tonight.Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    March 4, 2008 09:32 pm at 9:32 pm |
  19. Bren

    There is no way that Clinton can catch up to Obama. His message of bipartisanship, transparent politics, and shying away from the “politics as usual” campaign negativity make him a winner.

    March 4, 2008 09:32 pm at 9:32 pm |
  20. tammi

    McCain starts his campaign for the presidential elections tomorrow. Come on Dems, we need to start or we'll be trounced in November. Clinton really should bow out, because in the end, it's very likely that Obama will win anyway. Let's not wait till the summer to start our presidential campaign. That spells trouble.

    March 4, 2008 09:32 pm at 9:32 pm |
  21. Denise

    Obama has ~ 1387 delegates and Clinton hs ~ 1278 delegates. That's a difference of only 109 delegates. Aren't there ~ 600 delegates left? It ain't over til its over. And why do we have to know the nominee before the convention? Isn't that what the conventions are supposed to do – pick the nominee?

    March 4, 2008 09:33 pm at 9:33 pm |
  22. Robert in Albuquerque

    let's not forget CNN was wrong when they called FL in the last election. ANYTHING can happen and that's why we are a free willing and thinking country.

    I also hope FL goes and does a redo in voting!

    March 4, 2008 09:33 pm at 9:33 pm |
  23. pmm

    If anyone should bow out, it is Obama, leaving the race to the experienced candidate. Obama will have a chance again, in 8 years, when he has had the time to earn it!

    March 4, 2008 09:33 pm at 9:33 pm |
  24. Steve

    Donald...added back in? You mean have real elections there? She's lost TWELVE primaries in a row...what makes you think she'd win EITHER of those states? She still doesn't catch Senator Obama!

    This is over. Go to a website that has a delegate calculator. She cannot catch up. Hard as it might be to the Hillary Dolts who somehow have believed the spin of "Winning through losing," this race is over. She's lost.

    You might believe she "deserves the nomination" but she's lost.

    She may (or may not) have more experience, but she's lost.


    March 4, 2008 09:33 pm at 9:33 pm |
  25. James

    Delegates should vote the candidate of their choice along their party line. In this case, Democrat super delegates should vote for the candidate that has majority vote from the people.

    March 4, 2008 09:33 pm at 9:33 pm |
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