March 4th, 2008
10:03 PM ET
14 years ago

Schneider: Clinton's delegate problem

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(CNN) - In what may be bad news for Clinton, Democrats across all four states overwhelmingly say they want super delegates to vote based on which candidate finishes ahead in the pledged delegate count at the end of the primary season.

Majorities of Democrats in Texas (62 percent), Ohio (61 percent), Rhode Island (57 percent) and Vermont (66 percent) all said the super delegates should cast their vote for the primary winner, not for who they think can best win in November.

Why is this bad news for Clinton? As CNN's John King has made clear on his interactive delegate map, it is nearly impossible for Clinton to catch up to Obama's pledged delegate count. She would have to win the rest of the states convincingly to do so, given that the party allots delegates proportionally. Barring large blowouts in the remaining contests, its likely Clinton will finish behind Obama in pledged delegates.

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–CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider

soundoff (351 Responses)
  1. rick stoney

    Clinton originally supported the Iraq war. This shows lack of knowledge or foresight. We need somebody more intelligent than her.

    March 4, 2008 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  2. Alex Mackin

    AND?! neither candidates will have enough delegates to become the nominee, either with landslide wins from here on out.

    It's about momentum, and superdelegates. Again.


    March 4, 2008 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  3. sairefgm

    I will vote for mcain too and so will the african americans. we will never vote for hillary after the way she has demonstrated to us how she really feel about african amerians.

    Use the latinos they dont know any better, yet.

    March 4, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  4. john,NJ

    I think Obama should drop out why shoud Hillary drop give me one she has 50% of vote

    March 4, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  5. Kim

    Hillary will disregard the fact that Obama has pulled in the popular vote thusfar - and will ask superdelegates to disregard the voice of the Democratic party.

    That's just plain dirty politics - and if this is who you want as your nominee - you better prepare yourself for the McCain presidency.

    March 4, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  6. Josh

    Obama, please do us a favour and BOW OUT GRACEFULLY while you still can...YOU ARE ONLY HURTING THE DEMOCRATIC see, most of us DEMOCRATS would rather vote for HILLARY CLINTON...but thanks to you coming in here and BRAINWASHING the minds of young, dumb voters (This happens to be my first election I'm eligible to vote in...and my vote will go to Clinton) and Independents into voting for you. Step down now and let the REAL DEMOCRAT, SENATOR HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON FROM NEW YORK win this DEMOCRATIC primary!

    March 4, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  7. Boma

    Schneider & CNN – You are hacks, not journalists! Shame on you for trying to spin everything again Sen. Clinton. How do you sleep at night? Morons

    March 4, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  8. Jeff

    Why would Florida or Michigan count when the party rules clearly stated they wouldn't? It would sure be a clever trick of Clinton and the Establishment to disenfranchise Obama voters by tricking him into thinking the party would be honest.

    If either state counts, I will vote Republican simply because it will prove the party is just as corrupt as the neocons.

    March 4, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  9. James

    Hillary is going to win. To all those nay sayers and quitters, re-evaluate your own thoughts carefully. Look at the results now. SHE IS DOING VERY WELL. SHE WILL GO ALL THE WAY AND WIN. GO HILLARY. GO ALL THE WAY! THIS IS THE TIME TO HAVE A WOMAN PRESIDENT. AND A GREAT ONE TOO.

    March 4, 2008 09:51 pm at 9:51 pm |
  10. Jonathan from NJ

    What about Florida and Michigan? Give these two states the opportunity to have their delegates count.

    March 4, 2008 09:52 pm at 9:52 pm |
  11. Alex Mackin

    BOWING OUT WOULD BE STUPID. as long as theres news on the democratic side, we get the coverage and the excitement, even if it goes all the way to the convention. The notion that a protracted race will hurt the democrats, is in my opinion, overrated.

    March 4, 2008 09:52 pm at 9:52 pm |
  12. james

    Why isnt there any talk about Hillary sitting on the board at WalMart......And supported the jobs going to china and knowing that walmart gives no real health care to its employees...but she is for health care.....

    March 4, 2008 09:52 pm at 9:52 pm |
  13. Clofitas

    Black man for Hillary,

    When Obama was down there were more than 20 contests remaining, so he had a legitimate shot at coming back to win the nomination, but at this point if Hilary does not win TX and OH by HUGE margins she has no chance in hell of winning the most pledged delegates. Put all the emotions aside and look at the hard, cold, unadulterated facts!

    Obama 2008


    Hillary's Giuliani like campaign strategy was retarded. Why did she only focus on winning the big states? If she would run the country the way she ran this campaign into the ground, we really, really need Obama.

    Peace, love and collard greens in the Whitehouse!

    Go Obama

    March 4, 2008 09:53 pm at 9:53 pm |
  14. Nicolas

    YES put Florida and Michigan back. Hillary fought for them to be back in action and if the future permits, WE WILL WIN! A strong candidate will never exit this election. If you think about it, if Obama is in her shoes I don't think he will give up either. All of you here who want's her down are selfish. Why don't you just wait and see.

    March 4, 2008 09:53 pm at 9:53 pm |
  15. Susan Connors

    Clinton needs to GET OUT now!

    March 4, 2008 09:53 pm at 9:53 pm |
  16. Nate

    In reply to Aaron, this isn't children this is voting for our president. We are talking about moving ahead a week, this isn't about ballot fixing (like republicans were accused of in florida, yet they counted florida for the repubs).

    So why should michigan and florida not be counted? Because obama would be losing, hence the fact you are an obama supporter, you don't want your states vote to go against your (bad) candidate.

    March 4, 2008 09:53 pm at 9:53 pm |
  17. football guy

    Um Clinton morons?

    Suggesting Obama drop out is like saying a football team that's winning a game 30 to 20 in the 4th quarter should quit the game because both teams have kicked a field goal this quarter. She can't win and she can't even tie the game.

    Then again, what the heck am I doing, only women are voting for Hillary now anyway.

    March 4, 2008 09:53 pm at 9:53 pm |
  18. td

    Lets see...Gore wins the popular vote but loses on delegates. Hillary loses the popular vote but wins on 'super delegates'. I can't wait for the spin on that if it happens. Sure wish we had a real leader to vote for...

    March 4, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  19. raul duke

    Watching Hillary's speech when she finally gives it up is going to be better than ten Super Bowls. I'm so looking forward to it!

    March 4, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
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    March 4, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  21. Linda

    I can't believe Obama won't drop out. He is bringing the whole party down. He is unbelievable. WHAT A SELFISH MAN!!!!! TYPICAL MALE!! In the end , Obama will not beat McCain.

    March 4, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  22. Ian

    Republicans are just full of themselves. Mccain is a big fake. I'm all for Hillary this 2008 election. Obama has little experience i.e to liberal and needs to tread in more nuetral teritory, Clinton is therefore modrate and can sway in either party direction.

    March 4, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  23. Bea

    The longer this goes on, the greater people are digging in their heels to support their candidate. I don't see how the democratic party will be unified. I'm an Obama supporter, but I'm really disgusted with the behavior of Clinton supporters. You should have saved some of that venom for the Rebublican nominee. If Clinton wins the nomination, I'll have to give McCain a look. I'm sure I'm not the only young Democrat that feels this way.

    March 4, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  24. George Martin

    If John MCain becomes PRESIDENT we will be in another war!!!


    Recall his Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!

    March 4, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
  25. Kim

    I would like to remind the Hillary supporters that Florida and Michigan must hold another primary by pre-set deadlines for the delegates to be seated. She agreed with the rules laid forth when both states violated voting regulations by moving their primaries.

    I'm FROM Michigan and I can tell you that Obama supporters chose not to vote "undecided" because the delegates didn't count. You better watch what you ask for in asking the "delegates be seated" - because you hold a legitimate and legal primary in both states and you will see similar results that you have seen in other states. Hillary will NOT blow out Obama in either state...and there is a great possibility that he will beat her. So, again, I just encourage you to watch what you ask for!

    March 4, 2008 09:54 pm at 9:54 pm |
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