March 11th, 2008
09:50 AM ET
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Does Clinton benefit from so-called 'dream ticket' talk?

 Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

(CNN) - It's an idea that's increasingly getting kicked around, especially by one campaign in particular.

The prospect of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama running on the same ticket has long been the subject of speculation, even before voters started weighing in at the polls earlier this year.

But following Clinton's wins in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island last week - a trifecta of victories that essentially salvaged her presidential hopes - the New York senator and her surrogates have repeatedly raised the issue themselves; raised it so often, in fact, that Obama made sure to shoot down the idea at a campaign event in Mississippi Monday.

"I want everybody to be absolutely clear," he said. "I'm not running for vice president. I'm running for president of the United States of America."

"This kind of gamesmanship, talking about me as VP but not ready for commander-in-chief, that's exactly the kind of doublespeak, double-talk that Washington is very good at," Obama added.

Obama isn't the only one who thinks Clinton has something up her sleeve when she raises the issue. CNN Senior Political Correspondent Candy Crowley says the Illinois senator's campaign clearly recognizes its rival benefits from the increased speculation of a joint ticket.

"They understand that this is a way for the Clinton campaign to play some politics here," Crowley said. "If you suggest to voters, who might have some question about Barack Obama's experience, but they like his message of hope and change, that they could have both, and that maybe he could get eight years of seasoning, that's the suggestion here."(Watch Candy Crowley's analysis of Dem dream ticket talk)

Obama's comments Monday followed a week in which the prospect of a joint ticket was pushed by Clinton or a member of her campaign on at least four different occasions. Clinton herself raised the issue twice - once with a CBS interviewer on the morning after her March 4 primary wins, and on Friday during a campaign stop in Mississippi.

"I've had people say, 'Well I wish I could vote for both of you,'" she said. "Well, that might be possible some day. But first I need your vote on Tuesday."

Former President Bill Clinton also weighed in on the possibility over the weekend, calling the possible ticket 'unstoppable.'

"I know that she has always been open to it, because she believes that if you can unite the energy and the new people that he's brought in and the people in these vast swaths of small town and rural America that she's carried overwhelmingly, if you had those two things together she thinks it'd be hard to beat," he said in Mississippi Saturday.

And Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a fervent supporter of Clinton's, said on two different occasions he thinks whoever wins the Democratic race should offer the vice presidency to the other.

Gloria Borger, a senior political analyst for CNN, called the comments a Clinton "talking point."

"They're trying to say to people, you know 'wink, wink, if you make Hillary Clinton the nominee, she'll bring Barack Obama along.' It's a talking point, which is that with Hillary you get two for the price of one—if she is at the top of the ticket."

But there's no denying the Clintons recognize the strength Obama would bring to a presidential ticket. Each has attracted a distinct segment of the Democratic electorate: He consistently does well with upscale voters, independents, and African-Americans while she has performed well among women, older voters, and members of the working class.

"Thee Clintons clearly believe that Obama on the ticket would both unify the party and be a draw, particularly to those African-American voters who have been flocking to him. There is clearly some sense it would cement a Democratic victory."

So would Clinton herself accept the No. 2 slot should Obama finish the race on top?

"I don't make any predictions," Borger said.

- CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

UPDATE: Clinton said Monday all the V.P. speculation has taken on a life of its own:

"This thing has really been given a life of its own. A lot of Democrats like us both and have been very hopeful that they wouldn't have to make a choice, but obviously democrats have to make a choice, and I'm looking for to getting the nomination and it's preliminary to talk about whoever might be on whose ticket," she said while campaigning in Pennsylvania. "But I believe I am ready to serve on day one."

soundoff (1,377 Responses)
  1. We_Are_For_Obama_And_Hate_Clintons

    Question for CNN: (And News Media)

    There are thousands of notes like above about Hillary's fear mongering ads, dirty tactics that she uses to win WhiteHouse at any cost, distroying innocent peoples' lives and tons of other dirty things that she does to win this election; all of those are protrayed on-line.

    Whey does'nt CNN and News Media read these notes (America's Voice) how the country feels about her and think about her?

    Especially to Hillary and Bil Clinton..! Or CNN is protecting them?

    March 10, 2008 06:59 pm at 6:59 pm |
  2. RW

    Smart move by Hillary.

    If Obama wins, that two-face will probably try and stiff her on the VP offer so she's getting the idea out there now so it'll have so much steam by the convention that he cannot deny her at least an offer of VP.

    Hillary also potentially takes some fence sitters away from Obama in the remaining contests and superdelegate race. It's a long shot, but it could help even things up.

    March 10, 2008 06:59 pm at 6:59 pm |
  3. Wisconsin

    What more do people have to hear before they realize that Hillary will say anything to get elected???

    First Obama doesn't have experience, now he has enough.

    At 3am the girl in the ads wants Obama for President and so do we all!

    BTW When will Wolf get off the Hillary bandwagon? Dream ticket! Hell no Hillary Must Go!

    March 10, 2008 06:59 pm at 6:59 pm |
  4. RS

    Hello Clinton News Network:

    Sen. Obama has decisively wiped out all this joint ticket BS Hillary, Bill & Wolfoson have been sending your way to amp up.

    Have some shame and post about Sen. Obama's reply and cover it on TV as much as you've covered the absurdities of the Clintons.

    March 10, 2008 07:00 pm at 7:00 pm |
  5. Lana

    I will NOT vote for obama without clinton. I will vote for clinton without obama. If Clinton does not win the nomination then I will push for LOU DOBBS to run for president as an Independent.

    March 10, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  6. Judy

    Hey Hillary....SCOREBOARD

    That's right, do the math, the only way you can win is to somehow steal the nomination from Obama. He won't be happy, his supporters will go elsewhere, president McCain.

    Pay attention superdels and Democrats, are you ready to lose the next generation for that old bat?

    March 10, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  7. mike

    Watching this clinton rally from scranton. Does she just copy everything Obama talks about earlier in the day. She is a joke.

    March 10, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  8. James

    Senator Clinton's argument for Sen. Obama as VP is now a boomerang. Sen Obama needs to cut an effective commercial on this issue in the PA primary

    Double-speaking and hair-slitting arguments, exemplified by the Clintons, galvanize the Republicans to oppose all moves by Democrats.

    A Clinton presidency = gridlock in Washington + payday to lobbyists.

    March 10, 2008 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  9. John

    "...vote for both of you"??? What rational-minded person can't tell the huge differences between Hilary and Barack ...even if personal integrity alone was the only characteristic considered? I'll tell you what I'd like to vote for – I'd like to vote both Bill and Hilary off our continent (preferably to the moon).

    March 10, 2008 07:02 pm at 7:02 pm |
  10. Dancindukes

    Is she going to leave her ego to Harvard Medical School?

    March 10, 2008 07:02 pm at 7:02 pm |
  11. CJ

    Cry me a river. The only ticket Hillary needs is a ticket back to New York. Hey Big Apple, take her back, please–she's not ready for prime time.

    Isn't there something you can do to keep her away from a camera? If I hear her voice one more time I'm going to move to Canada.

    Who cares about Hillary–let's move forward. This country needs someone who will bring us change. Hillary is old news.

    This is the best comment yet! I love it – thank for giving us the best message>>> One way flight back to New York and a sock in her mouth to shut up her monotone whinning voice. errrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

    March 10, 2008 07:02 pm at 7:02 pm |
  12. Gil - California

    Not only is Hillary not qualified to be president, she is not qualified to be in politics (sorry NY). She is not going to win but even as a loser I would not be surprised to see her turn on anyone who did not support her.

    She is still putting all her hopes into stealing the election by using the Super Delegates. Failing at that she will do everything in her power to sink Barack's chances so she can run again in 4 years. It will do no good, I won't vote for her then either. No Hillary, NEVER!

    March 10, 2008 07:02 pm at 7:02 pm |
  13. Derrick

    It is clear to EVERYONE that Barack Obama IS NOT EXPERIENCED! What is the big problem with having him do some training behind Hillary Clinton?!

    I think it would be good for him to see how reality works and that this his babbling talk of hope and change are just more political maneuvering, just like the Canadian NAFTA report.

    WAKE UP OBAMA FANS! He is blowing hot air, and you are inhaling it! Good, clean, and fair politicians DO NOT make it this far in the game without cheating, lying, and taking money from special interests groups. Barack Obama did some bad, secretive deals to get this far! YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!

    Hillary 08' 12'

    March 10, 2008 07:02 pm at 7:02 pm |
  14. Len

    Hillarious Clinton has no chance to be President.

    She will never win a state that Gore or Kerry lost. She may even lose some of the blues because independents hate the Clintons.

    March 10, 2008 07:03 pm at 7:03 pm |
  15. CJ

    Cry me a river. The only ticket Hillary needs is a ticket back to New York. Hey Big Apple, take her back, please–she's not ready for prime time.

    Isn't there something you can do to keep her away from a camera? If I hear her voice one more time I'm going to move to Canada.

    Who cares about Hillary–let's move forward. This country needs someone who will bring us change. Hillary is old news.

    This is the best comment yet! I love it – thank for giving us the best message>>> One way flight back to New York and a sock in her mouth to shut up her monotone whinning voice. errrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

    March 10, 2008 07:03 pm at 7:03 pm |
  16. maya

    Uh, Jude, with all due respect, how can you possibly say that all states that voted blue will be blue in the general? It's more the big swing states such as Ohio, New Jersey, New York, Florida, etc that are the key. They are called swing states for a reason- and Obama has not shown up to this point that he can capture them. Very concerning esp since we will be running against a moderate Republican (McCain) who will attract many moderate Dems and Independants.

    March 10, 2008 07:03 pm at 7:03 pm |
  17. Joe

    The Hillary should give it up and take her loving husband with her. I turn the station when she comes on the t.v. Obama has my vote and wish him success.

    Joe

    March 10, 2008 07:03 pm at 7:03 pm |
  18. Dan, TX

    Hillary already has Marc Rich selected as her VP.

    Hillary/Rich '08 !!!!!!!!!!

    March 10, 2008 07:04 pm at 7:04 pm |
  19. dave

    Obama comes up again

    As a state senator, Barack Obama was consulted on the makeup of a state board...

    At the center of controversy in the Tony Rezko trial. The defense showed a 2003 memo to jurors today listing Obama's name, among others, including Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan, as having discussed the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board.
    Among the recommendations on that memo included Stuart Levine, who will act as the government's chief witness in the case. Levine has admitted to taking part in a kickback scheme while he served as a member of the board.
    I will post that memo later today when it is released. The government has accused Rezko of stacking that board to ensure that Levine and others would vote his way to make money.

    Also today, Jill Hayden, who headed boards and commissions for Gov. Blagojevich testified that Rezko or "T.R." as she said he was referred in the office, held powerful sway over appointments to 300 boards. She said she dealt with Rezko often and that his recommendations, more so than others, usually stuck.

    March 10, 2008 07:04 pm at 7:04 pm |
  20. Shola

    Once again people talking without reasoning. Let me pose this question to you. If Obama had asked Hillary Clinton to become his VP when he won 11 states in a row, many would have crucified him for been arrogant. So why is that Clinton wins just two states out of the about 15 states and she then decides she can offer Obama the VP spot? Please answer this question before you attack Obama for been arrogant and foolish because HIllary is the one that is borderline humorous or very arrogant.

    March 10, 2008 07:04 pm at 7:04 pm |
  21. john

    Headline asks: "Does Clinton benefit from so-called 'dream ticket' talk?"

    Duh, gee, good question, duh.

    Of course it does and you and everyone else knows it. CNN stop patronizing us!!

    March 10, 2008 07:05 pm at 7:05 pm |
  22. OBAMA 08

    I GUESS IT HELPS HER AS MUCH AS ANY OF HER OTHER DELUSIONS.

    March 10, 2008 07:05 pm at 7:05 pm |
  23. Geoff Diss

    The nonsense, arrogance and hypocrisy that Clinton gets away with is incredible. First, she mocks him, and dismisses him as unprepared for the presidency; now she wants him as her 'replacement'. And she's running second. lol

    March 10, 2008 07:05 pm at 7:05 pm |
  24. Val in PA

    Obama embodies the essence of our beautiful melting pot. He engages us in the dialogue, unlike the other candidates that talk at us, and around us, but never really to us. With Obama you not only feel like you will part of the election process, but also a real part of building the nation, helping our fellow americans that are suffering, and redefing our image around the world.

    The historical elements of this election go far beyond the contenders. We are looking at possibly changing the red vs. blue landscape to purple. We have an opportunity to show the world that we are a diverse, accepting nation, that affords all citizens the opportunity to lead the nation to a better place. This is a beautiful, beautiful thing. Someday, we may perhaps be the "great nation" we have only claimed to be.

    March 10, 2008 07:05 pm at 7:05 pm |
  25. Good Grief

    1. Denial – Check.
    2. Anger/Resentment – Check.
    3. Bargaining – Check
    4. Depression – Pending
    5. Acceptance – Pending

    March 10, 2008 07:05 pm at 7:05 pm |
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