March 11th, 2008
09:50 AM ET
12 years ago

Does Clinton benefit from so-called 'dream ticket' talk?

 Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

(CNN) - It's an idea that's increasingly getting kicked around, especially by one campaign in particular.

The prospect of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama running on the same ticket has long been the subject of speculation, even before voters started weighing in at the polls earlier this year.

But following Clinton's wins in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island last week - a trifecta of victories that essentially salvaged her presidential hopes - the New York senator and her surrogates have repeatedly raised the issue themselves; raised it so often, in fact, that Obama made sure to shoot down the idea at a campaign event in Mississippi Monday.

"I want everybody to be absolutely clear," he said. "I'm not running for vice president. I'm running for president of the United States of America."

"This kind of gamesmanship, talking about me as VP but not ready for commander-in-chief, that's exactly the kind of doublespeak, double-talk that Washington is very good at," Obama added.

Obama isn't the only one who thinks Clinton has something up her sleeve when she raises the issue. CNN Senior Political Correspondent Candy Crowley says the Illinois senator's campaign clearly recognizes its rival benefits from the increased speculation of a joint ticket.

"They understand that this is a way for the Clinton campaign to play some politics here," Crowley said. "If you suggest to voters, who might have some question about Barack Obama's experience, but they like his message of hope and change, that they could have both, and that maybe he could get eight years of seasoning, that's the suggestion here."(Watch Candy Crowley's analysis of Dem dream ticket talk)

Obama's comments Monday followed a week in which the prospect of a joint ticket was pushed by Clinton or a member of her campaign on at least four different occasions. Clinton herself raised the issue twice - once with a CBS interviewer on the morning after her March 4 primary wins, and on Friday during a campaign stop in Mississippi.

"I've had people say, 'Well I wish I could vote for both of you,'" she said. "Well, that might be possible some day. But first I need your vote on Tuesday."

Former President Bill Clinton also weighed in on the possibility over the weekend, calling the possible ticket 'unstoppable.'

"I know that she has always been open to it, because she believes that if you can unite the energy and the new people that he's brought in and the people in these vast swaths of small town and rural America that she's carried overwhelmingly, if you had those two things together she thinks it'd be hard to beat," he said in Mississippi Saturday.

And Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a fervent supporter of Clinton's, said on two different occasions he thinks whoever wins the Democratic race should offer the vice presidency to the other.

Gloria Borger, a senior political analyst for CNN, called the comments a Clinton "talking point."

"They're trying to say to people, you know 'wink, wink, if you make Hillary Clinton the nominee, she'll bring Barack Obama along.' It's a talking point, which is that with Hillary you get two for the price of one—if she is at the top of the ticket."

But there's no denying the Clintons recognize the strength Obama would bring to a presidential ticket. Each has attracted a distinct segment of the Democratic electorate: He consistently does well with upscale voters, independents, and African-Americans while she has performed well among women, older voters, and members of the working class.

"Thee Clintons clearly believe that Obama on the ticket would both unify the party and be a draw, particularly to those African-American voters who have been flocking to him. There is clearly some sense it would cement a Democratic victory."

So would Clinton herself accept the No. 2 slot should Obama finish the race on top?

"I don't make any predictions," Borger said.

- CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

UPDATE: Clinton said Monday all the V.P. speculation has taken on a life of its own:

"This thing has really been given a life of its own. A lot of Democrats like us both and have been very hopeful that they wouldn't have to make a choice, but obviously democrats have to make a choice, and I'm looking for to getting the nomination and it's preliminary to talk about whoever might be on whose ticket," she said while campaigning in Pennsylvania. "But I believe I am ready to serve on day one."

soundoff (1,377 Responses)
  1. Sal

    Hillary appears to be having a melt down.

    april 23 reality will set for the clintons, and thier tarnished legacy because of a greed to have power like Bill.

    A women will be president. Hillary is not a presidential women.

    She can't inspire. She may loose as senator after this is over.

    Same old experience is irrelevant because her judgement continues to be wrong.

    Obama 08

    March 10, 2008 07:10 pm at 7:10 pm |
  2. gregg 45

    it is always rascism is it not when it comes to hillary,,, think obamanites,, obamanation,,,,,,,,,,hillary has always backed the blacks in this country, why for one instance do you really believe obama will? is it because he has the best of both,, or just the hue .... everytime one says anything about obama it is racist,,,its ok to say nasty things about hillary,, shes a white woman,, so she is a fair target,,, think b4 u vote,,, put the church preacher back where he belongs,,, on sunday , go hear his sermon,,, btw , quinn, he does not represent me or my ideas,, the antichrist has arrived and the sheep are following,, good luck,, obamanites greg in north carolina

    March 10, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  3. John

    The way I look at the whole pingpong game of VP and President,is that – it is abundantly clear that the Democrats have a very talented strong field of candidates visavie Hillary and Barack.The best one will win the nomination and Presidency.Hypothetically,if Obama is not the winner as a nominee:will he go back to the senate?Someone is burning the bridges as they cross them.I think Hillary will win all the way to the White House.Obama should avoid saying no to the VP slot!!,just incase he misses the President's slot! Go Hillary Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    March 10, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  4. Sam Rose

    Hillary is #2 in pledged delegates?

    Obama is in the lead....he is the one that the citizens of the US want to be the nominee-

    NOT HER!!!! If he is not good enough to be commander in chief on day one–how could he be VP?
    She needs to decide which lie she is going to align with-
    This is CLEAR double-speak-and just makes her and Bill look stupid-

    More slime-y tricks by the Clinton's-proving once again–they will do and say anything to get votes–

    I am sick of the Clintons-and so is most of the USA.

    Obama '08

    March 10, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  5. Gnomepark

    Thank you for the offer Mrs. Clinton......but no thank you.

    Go Obama!

    March 10, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  6. NEVEROBAMA

    JB- Judgement is not really a factor for Obama considering he NEVER voted for the war. It is one thing to oppose the war and another to have voted against it. The experience Hillary talks about is only in part the 8 years as First Lady but what she has done since she graduated law school. Her determination to help children, fight for Civil Rights and human rights for 35 years which is more than Obama's 2O years.

    MSNBC had a very good documentary of Hillary her life, triumphs and her determination against the insurance companies to give insurance to those who need it. Our fight in not that Obama is a good person which he might be but we need to restore america and Hillary is just the person to do this.

    VERY BIG HILLFAN!!!

    March 10, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  7. Alan

    It seems, given the banner for Clinton rallies atop CNN's home page daily, and Blitzer's repeated slant towards the Clinton's, that CNN is biased against Obama. This is so irresponsible of a news network the magnitude of CNN, and it's a shame that politics have come to this. I will continue to point those I know who TRUST CNN to take a second look at this network's true colors.

    March 10, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  8. Joel

    DREAM TICKET OF CLINTON-OBAMA TOGETHER MAYBE THE ONE DEMOCRATIC CHANCE FOR OBAMA TO BE ONE DAY (8 YEARS HENCE)\ THE PRESIDENT OF THE US. CLINTON MAYNOT ACCEPT
    BEING VP TO OBAMA ..IN WHICH CASE OBAMA LOSES.
    JUST LOOK AT THE STATES CLINTON WITH OBAMA'S WINS.
    OBAMA'S WINS ARE AND WILL BE VOTING REPUBLICAN WITHOUT CLINTON IN THE TICKET. A MCCAIN – BLOOMBERG (NYC MAYOR)
    WILL WIN OVER OBAMA AND AN Y OTHER DEMOCRAT) BESIDES CLINTON.. OBAMA STILL CLINGS TO HIS AMBITIOUS SPEECHES
    AND REFUSES TO ACCEPT HIS INEXPERIENCE REALITY. REPUBLICANS HAVE NOT YET NOR EVEN BEGAN TO CAREFULLY
    SCRUTINISE AND LOOK CAREFULLY AT HIS INADEQUATE RECORD TO BE ELECTED PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE A TORRENT OF REPUBLICAN NEGATIVE ADS IF OBAMA BECOMES THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. AND THE ELECTION CAMPAIGN WILL BE NOTHING LIKE THE PRIMARIES IN WHICH OBAMA IS COMING OUT UNSCATHED. . MCCAIN WILL MAKE OBAMA LOOK LIKE AN AMATEUR . IRAQ WAR IS THE ONE AND ONLY OBAMA
    RALLYING CRY. BUT EVEN THERE, OBAMA JUST DOES NOT HAVE THE FOREIGN POLICY AND WAR EX[ERIENCE THAT MCCAIN HAS.
    IF MCCAIN PICKS A FORMIDABLE VP LIKE MAYOR M. BLOOMBERG
    OF NEW YORK. OBAMA IS FINISHED. BLOOMBERG OF NY HAS UNLIMITED RESOURCES FOR THE REPUBLICANS.
    OBLY HILLARY AND OBAMA TOGETHER CAN WIN.

    March 10, 2008 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  9. Ray

    Obama should reject, denounce, or whatever else it takes to make the Clintons stop suggesting this. Hillary's disapproval rating is too high, and that ain't gonna change before November (in fact, it may only get worse). She will drown the ticket if she's on it in, and we'll lose the Presidency once again to the Republicans.

    If she truly wanted unity, she would offer herself as VP to the clear front-runner in this race – but instead, she borders on delusional with this VP offer to Obama. She talks about states like Florida and Michigan as if she won them with even a shred of legitimacy. It's amazing. If only she would just go away, but alas, that won't happen. Obama, steer clear of these deceitful Clinton countermeasures if you can...and if you can't, then strategize with your team on how to firmly respond. Don't get any of this on your shoe.

    Clinton supporters – this VP tactic is beyond low, and you know it. You might want to spread the lie that this is about "unity", but trust me, we know better! This isn't a "win at all costs" game!

    March 10, 2008 07:12 pm at 7:12 pm |
  10. karen

    Obama would lend Hillary credibility, but he would be foolish to align himself with her. Thankfully, Obama is a brilliant leader and won't have any of it!

    March 10, 2008 07:12 pm at 7:12 pm |
  11. rich

    In my neck of the woods, we would say Hillary Clinton has the gall to suggest that Barack could be VP to her when the woman is running behind by every measure. The gall. Its not even funny.

    March 10, 2008 07:12 pm at 7:12 pm |
  12. Sal

    Obama / Rishardson 08 sounds Great

    March 10, 2008 07:12 pm at 7:12 pm |
  13. KE

    All the super deligates should consider Michigan and Florida when they make decision and who they want as the party leader. Did Sen. Obama served long enough to the party or not?

    Sen. Obama may have the "style" but he has no "face". That's how I still feel about him. I don't know what her really represents. It amazes me still how people are so willing to vote for someone who don't know much about and with so many unexamined smokes in the backyard, so willing to wait till he is elected to find out.

    Re-vote in Michigan and Florida is also ridiculous. Caucuses are ridiculous also in the big states. Why punish voters who voted to vote again. Why punish tax payers to pay to vote again? This problem should be solved by the party leaders and the states and the candidates. That's what they were voted for to bigin with by the people and paid for by the tax payers.

    Sen. Clinton has been right about this all along when she asked voters to hire her for the job. You don't really want to vote for someone and then be told your vote really don't count and don't matter after you already voted.

    Next is Pennsylvania, mothers and fathers and grandparents, businessmen and businesswomen and young folks it's time to vote again regardless of your skin colors. I'm for Hillary.

    March 10, 2008 07:12 pm at 7:12 pm |
  14. augustcandi

    it would be great if he (obama) got another woman as VP when he becomes president..haha im sure Hillary would love that!

    March 10, 2008 07:12 pm at 7:12 pm |
  15. Maurice Jamall

    I recall Pres. Clinton's comment when John Kerry selected John Edwards as his running mate. He said that when the candidate makes that choice he knows he has done something right for the country. He has chosen someone who could run the country should anything happen to the president. Hilary Clinton has made no bones about the fact that, in her judgement, Obama is unfit to be C-i-C. What kind of person would risk leaving the country in the hands of an unready? Or maybe she thinks he is ready. What sleazeballs these Clintons are. I used to doubt my Republican friends when they went on and on about the Clintons. Now I know what they mean. She will risk the country's safety in order to get Obama's voters. OR.. she is a mud-flinger who will do and say anything to win the Whitehouse. Either way, SHE has demonstrated to my satisfaction that she is unfit for the highest office.

    March 10, 2008 07:12 pm at 7:12 pm |
  16. j miller

    for those of us who remember; and that does not include you "twenty somethings" when Bill Clinton was president the budget was in the black and we could afford a loaf of bread and a gallon of gas all out of the same paycheck. My vote is with Hillary.

    March 10, 2008 07:12 pm at 7:12 pm |
  17. Denis da Silva

    Does it make sense that she keeps claiming that he won't be ready on day one, yet she wants him to be V.P. ? Does she know who would become President if she had a heart attack on day one? Does she make any sense? Come on even Clinton supporters can't touch this one.

    March 10, 2008 07:13 pm at 7:13 pm |
  18. ABC (anyone but Clinton)

    Just when it looks like the arrogance of Billary can't become any greater...her "experience" is a joke. By her rationale, Laura Bush then qualifies for the same degree of experience (minus the Senate years) based on her 8 years as first lady and "visits to (insert number) countries."

    It's time for fellow Democrats to wake up and realize that the point of the election is to elect the most visionary nominee who can guide this country over the next few years and improve our standing in the eyes of other nations. Re-electing Bill, this time as a puppetmaster, should not be an option.

    March 10, 2008 07:13 pm at 7:13 pm |
  19. bill Latimer

    What about a Clinton-Clinton ticket?

    March 10, 2008 07:13 pm at 7:13 pm |
  20. Illinois voter

    From the beginning, Hillary Clinton has run a positive campaign based on her experience.

    From the beginning, Obama has run an anti-Hillary campaign. Many people interpret Obama's message of change to mean "not Hillary".

    It is Obama's fault that his campaign strategy prevents him from consideing Hillary as a running mate. If Obama is going to benefit from the anti-Hillary vote, he deserves to suffer the consequences of citizens voting for Hillary based upon the possibility of a Hillary/Obama ticket.

    Hillary or McCain '08

    March 10, 2008 07:13 pm at 7:13 pm |
  21. K

    NOOBAMA 08!!!

    March 10, 2008 07:14 pm at 7:14 pm |
  22. HILLLARY 08

    How the hell is this an ALL DAY STORY? The media and the public continue to ask Hillary and Bill if she would give obama the V.P. she says maybe, Bill says it would be an unstoppable ticket and the media reems them for it, the MSM is back to their old dirty coverage. Don't ask em if you don't like it, other wise shut the hell up!

    March 10, 2008 07:14 pm at 7:14 pm |
  23. Doc

    How good Are experienced presidents, anyway? Suppose you had to choose between two Presidential candidates, one of whom had spent 20 years in Congress plus had considerable other relevant experience and the other of whom had about half a dozen years in the Illinois state legislature and 2 years in Congress. Which one do you think would make a better President? If you chose #1, congratulations, you picked James Buchanan over Abraham Lincoln. Your pick disagrees with that of most historians, who see Lincoln as the greatest President ever and Buchanan as the second worst ever, better only than Warren "Teapot Dome" Harding. Both served in what was probably the most difficult period in American history, where slavery and secession tore the nation asunder.

    March 10, 2008 07:14 pm at 7:14 pm |
  24. bluebird

    obama play the race card again like he did in South Carolina, Obama is using racial language to attack Clinton in Mississippi. Obviously, to get chummy with the voters in language he thinks will work.

    ... .. See, I was trying to explain to someone the 'okey-doke.' Y’all know the okey-doke? It’s when someone’s trying to bamboozle you, when they’re trying to hoodwink you. They are trying to hoodwink you.

    March 10, 2008 07:14 pm at 7:14 pm |
  25. K

    CLINTON, OBAMA AND MCCAIN MORE OF THE SAME

    March 10, 2008 07:15 pm at 7:15 pm |
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