March 11th, 2008
09:50 AM ET
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Does Clinton benefit from so-called 'dream ticket' talk?

 Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

(CNN) - It's an idea that's increasingly getting kicked around, especially by one campaign in particular.

The prospect of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama running on the same ticket has long been the subject of speculation, even before voters started weighing in at the polls earlier this year.

But following Clinton's wins in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island last week - a trifecta of victories that essentially salvaged her presidential hopes - the New York senator and her surrogates have repeatedly raised the issue themselves; raised it so often, in fact, that Obama made sure to shoot down the idea at a campaign event in Mississippi Monday.

"I want everybody to be absolutely clear," he said. "I'm not running for vice president. I'm running for president of the United States of America."

"This kind of gamesmanship, talking about me as VP but not ready for commander-in-chief, that's exactly the kind of doublespeak, double-talk that Washington is very good at," Obama added.

Obama isn't the only one who thinks Clinton has something up her sleeve when she raises the issue. CNN Senior Political Correspondent Candy Crowley says the Illinois senator's campaign clearly recognizes its rival benefits from the increased speculation of a joint ticket.

"They understand that this is a way for the Clinton campaign to play some politics here," Crowley said. "If you suggest to voters, who might have some question about Barack Obama's experience, but they like his message of hope and change, that they could have both, and that maybe he could get eight years of seasoning, that's the suggestion here."(Watch Candy Crowley's analysis of Dem dream ticket talk)

Obama's comments Monday followed a week in which the prospect of a joint ticket was pushed by Clinton or a member of her campaign on at least four different occasions. Clinton herself raised the issue twice - once with a CBS interviewer on the morning after her March 4 primary wins, and on Friday during a campaign stop in Mississippi.

"I've had people say, 'Well I wish I could vote for both of you,'" she said. "Well, that might be possible some day. But first I need your vote on Tuesday."

Former President Bill Clinton also weighed in on the possibility over the weekend, calling the possible ticket 'unstoppable.'

"I know that she has always been open to it, because she believes that if you can unite the energy and the new people that he's brought in and the people in these vast swaths of small town and rural America that she's carried overwhelmingly, if you had those two things together she thinks it'd be hard to beat," he said in Mississippi Saturday.

And Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a fervent supporter of Clinton's, said on two different occasions he thinks whoever wins the Democratic race should offer the vice presidency to the other.

Gloria Borger, a senior political analyst for CNN, called the comments a Clinton "talking point."

"They're trying to say to people, you know 'wink, wink, if you make Hillary Clinton the nominee, she'll bring Barack Obama along.' It's a talking point, which is that with Hillary you get two for the price of one—if she is at the top of the ticket."

But there's no denying the Clintons recognize the strength Obama would bring to a presidential ticket. Each has attracted a distinct segment of the Democratic electorate: He consistently does well with upscale voters, independents, and African-Americans while she has performed well among women, older voters, and members of the working class.

"Thee Clintons clearly believe that Obama on the ticket would both unify the party and be a draw, particularly to those African-American voters who have been flocking to him. There is clearly some sense it would cement a Democratic victory."

So would Clinton herself accept the No. 2 slot should Obama finish the race on top?

"I don't make any predictions," Borger said.

- CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

UPDATE: Clinton said Monday all the V.P. speculation has taken on a life of its own:

"This thing has really been given a life of its own. A lot of Democrats like us both and have been very hopeful that they wouldn't have to make a choice, but obviously democrats have to make a choice, and I'm looking for to getting the nomination and it's preliminary to talk about whoever might be on whose ticket," she said while campaigning in Pennsylvania. "But I believe I am ready to serve on day one."

soundoff (1,377 Responses)
  1. CLINTON OBAMA 08

    CLINTON OBAMA 08

    this is an unbeatable ticket. I am getting goosebumps and thrills just thinking of this.
    lets make history democrats. lets get the best of both wolrds
    the 1st woman president
    the first african amrican VP 08 and president 16

    this is from a true democrat

    March 10, 2008 07:37 pm at 7:37 pm |
  2. this is Ridiculous

    I'm no Obama fan, but it is ridiculous for Clinton to talk about him being her running mate. Get over yourself Clinton!! Whether you are a democrat or a republican you must admit that the Clintons are shady.

    March 10, 2008 07:38 pm at 7:38 pm |
  3. Phil

    Re: Hillary's 3am in the morning ad....The Sequel:

    Same ad~EXCEPT at the end: the voice over: Its 3 in the morning: Do you know where you husband is?

    Well, its experience (perhaps even an experience from her WH days) but just how relevant is it.

    BO can renounce and denounce, but its still funnny

    March 10, 2008 07:39 pm at 7:39 pm |
  4. Melanie

    Hillary is a despicable lying scumbag who has nothing better to do than lie to the faces of her own supporters! Frankly I find her worse than her husband (and I don't think highly of Bill).

    Honestly, Mrs Clinton build a bridge and get over it! You will never be in the white house!

    And I am sure if Michelle Obama ran for President, she would beat her husband and Clinton together...

    March 10, 2008 07:39 pm at 7:39 pm |
  5. Illinois 2

    Hillary sure does not need Obama for a Vice President besides, he is to much for himself to accept a second place on the ticket. Hillary should go back on him for not being in a position to have a voice or vote on his claim of the RIGHT DECISION ON THE IRAQ WAR.
    When Obama ran for the senate he had very little opposition in this race, so to say that he is something special is just not true.

    March 10, 2008 07:39 pm at 7:39 pm |
  6. PMC

    Obama says he will not take the #2 position of VP.
    Well, that is Strike 1 for Obama!
    Strike 2 is that he will not win the Democrat nomination.
    Strike 3 is that Hillary Clinton will actually win the Presidency.

    See ya, Obama

    March 10, 2008 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  7. Cheer

    The Clinon's call for the front runner to be a VP simply reveals the twisted mind of Clintons.

    March 10, 2008 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  8. Paul

    The Clintons want to send Obama to the back of the bus, but we won't let him. Obama is winning in pledged delegates, he's won twice as many states, and he's going to be our next president. Yes we can!

    March 10, 2008 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  9. earl illingsworth

    Put simply, answer's, "No"! Hillary will fight to the finish,and I don't blame her,because Florida and Michigan are in her win column ,past and present. She has decisively won seven of the eight largest states, having lost only Obama's Illinois(Home State). The Republicans are voting for Obama in a big way (numbers),since John McCain has become the default candidate,(Romney's Concession,forget about when the preacher withdrew?) for they believe Obama to be vunernable. The great Senator Hillary Clinton from "New York State", has offered up more than a Olive Branch, and there seems to be no takers,and a great opportunity loss for Senator Obama. Remember this , Hillary was literally torn to pieces and shredded by the Republican Party over Bill's," Infidelity, and White Water" and stood tall! BRAVO !!!

    March 10, 2008 07:40 pm at 7:40 pm |
  10. Michael

    I thought she already auditioned for VP slot with McCain. Will her Husband take the slot if McCain doesnt? Republican are doing better even without campaigning. That speaks Volume. Wish they cant concetrate on issues. If she is in the solution bussiness then please offer those solution if not you have already endorsed McCain and his health care plan something you said was very dear to you. For her to qualify she must first proove she can manage and run her campaign. I dont think campaign should be about attacking your opponents instead you should present your plans and what you will do when elected. Leave the Media to dig dirts of your opponents and if they cant find any let them be judged by merits and character. My vote goes to the candidate surrounded by people of sound mind. What Hillary is doing is send a message to young girls that if your husband cant control his libido, its okey to stick with him as long as you can get elected or benefit in some sort. Bad example to set especially if your base is mainly women

    March 10, 2008 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  11. Kate

    Obama is simply more electable.

    Obama has a 50 state strategy and can compete in the red states. He will put them in play with his broad appeal.

    Hillary is loathed by republicans and not muhc liked by independent voters either. Even Democrats are getting tired of her.

    She can only win in deep blue states, that any Democrat could win easily.

    John Kerry had an 18 state strategy but lost. Hillary has a doomed 14 state strategy - she has only won 14, and has lost everywhere else in a landslide! McCain is popular with independents, Obama is the only choice for the DNC.

    Hillary is simply a loser. She is unlikable. Frankly,. we're all starting to hate the Clintons because of their sleazy cheating tactics.

    March 10, 2008 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  12. SHANE IN CHICAGO

    HIILLARY . . . . . WOULD YOU LIKE SOME EGGS AND TOAST WITH YOUR "WAFFLE"?.

    March 10, 2008 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  13. avm

    "The only ticket Hillary needs is a ticket back to New York. Hey Big Apple, take her back, please–she's not ready for prime time." I AGREE–BUT SHE IS NOT FROM NEW YORK. SHE IS FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE–FROM ARKANSAS? BUT SHE HASN'T BEEN THERE IN YEARS. DOES SHE KNOW WHERE SHE IS FROM?

    March 10, 2008 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  14. David

    Thats not change!!! Sounds more like recycled policy to me. The Democratic party must chose between the two Obama or Clinton. It may look like a "Dream ticket" but dream have a way of becoming nightmares and nightmares have a way of becoming Reality! I'm a new democratic voter with no experience, but I'm smart enough too know all you so called "Experienced Voters" have been screwing this thing up for the past 18 yrs. Obama 08 for change and hold the Hillary!!! If Sen. Clinton is attached to the ticket, I won't even vote for him......NO Clinton 08 is my call.....

    March 10, 2008 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  15. MARYLOU JONES

    HILLARY WOULD BENEFIT ONLY IN THE FACT THAT THE TICKET WOULD BE A SURE WINNER AND A REPUBLICAN DEFEAT. THAT'S IT! THEN SHE WOULD BE STUCK WITH A WHINNY, SNIVELING, ARROGANT VICE-PRESIDENT WITH VERY LITTLE EXPERIENCE IN ANYTHING. SHADES OF DAN QUAYLE... OBAMA PREACHES HE IS NOT ONE OF THE WASHINGTON ESTABLISHMENT AND IN ONE ASPECT THAT IS TRUE. HE SHOULD BE IN WASHINGTON DOING HIS JOB ON THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE!!! HIS WHOLE PERSONA IS A LIE AND IT IS BEGINNING TO CRACK. WHY IS HIS PICTURE ON THE FRONT PAGES OF GLOBE AND ENQUIRER? THE OLE BONES ARE RATTLING AROUND IN THE "CLOSET"!!

    March 10, 2008 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  16. Cheer

    To the moderator, I am wondering what takes so long for you to moderate. I hope that you are not trying to suppress my voice.

    March 10, 2008 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  17. Barbara

    It isn't really about the VP position....it's part of her underhandedness in the way that she and her husband campaign.
    First you tear him down, then praise, then hit him again....and hopefully in the process the Democratic voters are smart enough to realize that she doesn't care about the Party, she only cares about herself, as usual.

    She is doing the dirty work for the RNC and has no conscience about the effect it will have. I once considered voting for her, but thankfully I came to my senses and voted Barack Obama. He has much more than she will ever have....INTEGRITY.

    Soon there will be a lawsuit against her and her husband by a former contributor....will the MSM cover it, or will they continue to cover only the news that is favorable to Clinton?

    March 10, 2008 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  18. Just the Facts

    SHe is according to the CNN report "fueling the idea"...I say she can put all the gas she wants in this car but it isn't going anywhere!

    March 10, 2008 07:42 pm at 7:42 pm |
  19. eva

    Dear Senator Obama, just try to win the Presidency in November without Senator Clinton supporters!!!. You will be surprised!!!

    March 10, 2008 07:42 pm at 7:42 pm |
  20. Grif

    I think you mean.... 92 and, a half, comments...

    March 10, 2008 07:42 pm at 7:42 pm |
  21. nk

    This devious trickery the Clintons are using to try to make the public see a Clinton/Obama ticket will only confirm to everyone of her improper ways of winning. Is this how she would run her White House? With trickery and misleading the public? Come on! Obama has won twice as many states as her. He has more pledges delegates. Hillary read the facts... you are losing the nomination and you are using any desperate attempt to trick the voters! People learn who a person really is under pressure, Hillary is under pressure to win the nomination and she is showing her true personality...someone unable to stick to the truth and win by any means necessary, even if it involves unethical ways

    March 10, 2008 07:42 pm at 7:42 pm |
  22. Alberto

    Obama wins in the "red" states and those with large minorities. Anyway, red states will go republican in the general election thus not much menning in Obama's mostly caucuses victories..

    March 10, 2008 07:43 pm at 7:43 pm |
  23. T Mitchell

    Hillary is still playing dirty tricks, this is just the latest. She is trying to create a false illusion that there will be a combined ticket for those people that don't want to see things get ultra-ugly. Her goal is to steal the votes of those that like Obama and will vote for him, but they also aren't happy with the barrage of attacks Hillary is launching that is tearing the party apart. She thinks that she can scare people into buying into the fear she is peddling and hold the DNC hostage while doing it.

    Hillary has now resorted to terrorist tactics and manipulations for her own personal benefit.

    March 10, 2008 07:43 pm at 7:43 pm |
  24. The Obama

    And what is the crap from the Clinton Camp thatsays "Obama could be ready by summer?" Ready for what?? He is already leading in votes, states, and delegates.

    Clintons and their acolytes are just delusional.

    March 10, 2008 07:43 pm at 7:43 pm |
  25. Mike - Sammmanish, WA

    These Clintons just get slicker and slicker, don't they. Take a hint – GO AWAY!!

    March 10, 2008 07:43 pm at 7:43 pm |
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