March 11th, 2008
09:50 AM ET
12 years ago

Does Clinton benefit from so-called 'dream ticket' talk?

 Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

(CNN) - It's an idea that's increasingly getting kicked around, especially by one campaign in particular.

The prospect of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama running on the same ticket has long been the subject of speculation, even before voters started weighing in at the polls earlier this year.

But following Clinton's wins in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island last week - a trifecta of victories that essentially salvaged her presidential hopes - the New York senator and her surrogates have repeatedly raised the issue themselves; raised it so often, in fact, that Obama made sure to shoot down the idea at a campaign event in Mississippi Monday.

"I want everybody to be absolutely clear," he said. "I'm not running for vice president. I'm running for president of the United States of America."

"This kind of gamesmanship, talking about me as VP but not ready for commander-in-chief, that's exactly the kind of doublespeak, double-talk that Washington is very good at," Obama added.

Obama isn't the only one who thinks Clinton has something up her sleeve when she raises the issue. CNN Senior Political Correspondent Candy Crowley says the Illinois senator's campaign clearly recognizes its rival benefits from the increased speculation of a joint ticket.

"They understand that this is a way for the Clinton campaign to play some politics here," Crowley said. "If you suggest to voters, who might have some question about Barack Obama's experience, but they like his message of hope and change, that they could have both, and that maybe he could get eight years of seasoning, that's the suggestion here."(Watch Candy Crowley's analysis of Dem dream ticket talk)

Obama's comments Monday followed a week in which the prospect of a joint ticket was pushed by Clinton or a member of her campaign on at least four different occasions. Clinton herself raised the issue twice - once with a CBS interviewer on the morning after her March 4 primary wins, and on Friday during a campaign stop in Mississippi.

"I've had people say, 'Well I wish I could vote for both of you,'" she said. "Well, that might be possible some day. But first I need your vote on Tuesday."

Former President Bill Clinton also weighed in on the possibility over the weekend, calling the possible ticket 'unstoppable.'

"I know that she has always been open to it, because she believes that if you can unite the energy and the new people that he's brought in and the people in these vast swaths of small town and rural America that she's carried overwhelmingly, if you had those two things together she thinks it'd be hard to beat," he said in Mississippi Saturday.

And Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a fervent supporter of Clinton's, said on two different occasions he thinks whoever wins the Democratic race should offer the vice presidency to the other.

Gloria Borger, a senior political analyst for CNN, called the comments a Clinton "talking point."

"They're trying to say to people, you know 'wink, wink, if you make Hillary Clinton the nominee, she'll bring Barack Obama along.' It's a talking point, which is that with Hillary you get two for the price of one—if she is at the top of the ticket."

But there's no denying the Clintons recognize the strength Obama would bring to a presidential ticket. Each has attracted a distinct segment of the Democratic electorate: He consistently does well with upscale voters, independents, and African-Americans while she has performed well among women, older voters, and members of the working class.

"Thee Clintons clearly believe that Obama on the ticket would both unify the party and be a draw, particularly to those African-American voters who have been flocking to him. There is clearly some sense it would cement a Democratic victory."

So would Clinton herself accept the No. 2 slot should Obama finish the race on top?

"I don't make any predictions," Borger said.

- CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

UPDATE: Clinton said Monday all the V.P. speculation has taken on a life of its own:

"This thing has really been given a life of its own. A lot of Democrats like us both and have been very hopeful that they wouldn't have to make a choice, but obviously democrats have to make a choice, and I'm looking for to getting the nomination and it's preliminary to talk about whoever might be on whose ticket," she said while campaigning in Pennsylvania. "But I believe I am ready to serve on day one."

soundoff (1,377 Responses)
  1. Rex, Houghton, MI

    Whatever the politics may be, Clinton looks desperate. I am sad that the Clintons going out this way—they truly look pathetic as they grasp for anything that is floating.

    March 10, 2008 07:51 pm at 7:51 pm |
  2. Casey, Atlanta

    The Ultimate Check Mate:

    If I were Obama, I would offer Clinton the Vice President ticket right now! In the wide open, at a podium, "a one time, right now, now-or-never" deal- take it or leave it!

    What would this do: 1) it would swing the momentum immeidately back in his favor as the one who is bargaining from the position of power- instant credibility 2) it would eliminate any talk of his needing to consider her once her wins the nomination 3) he could say this is the style of "no pre conditions " he is referrring to- which would eliminate any suggestions that he would be negotiating from a position of weakness- when he says he would meet with all world leaders and 4) effectively end the nomination race by either showing Clinton as the human General Electric- Power (hungry) company, or end the nomination race by having her accept, consildating power and moving forward to beat John McCain.

    The Ultimate Check Mate! (Disclosure: I am a Clinton supporter, this is just what I would do if I where Obama)

    March 10, 2008 07:51 pm at 7:51 pm |
  3. Mark

    In every single poll I've seen for months, Obama does far better matched up against McCain than Hillary Clinton does. Why in the world would democrats who want to win in November, attach themselves to a lesser candidate.
    Hillary Clinton is a liability and it's absurd and laughable that someone who is losing would start making statements like this. The Clinton's aren't smart, they are desperate and although they are manipulative enough to fool people, this is so blatant that everyone but her most staunch supporters will reject it. They are irresponsible with their power...

    March 10, 2008 07:51 pm at 7:51 pm |
  4. Christine

    Is this a return to Jim Crow laws?

    Hilary is in second place but asks a Black man who has raised more money, has more delegates and is leading in the popular vote to take step aside and be her back-up?

    Democracy spelled with a large or small "d" still means majority rules. Except within the Clinton campaign. If she wins the nomination with superdelegates I'll vote for McCain.

    I'm from Missouri which Hilary thought "counted" until last minute votes swung us to Obama at which point the Clinton's decided we didn't count any more. (see the trend?)

    March 10, 2008 07:51 pm at 7:51 pm |
  5. Anonymous

    Clinton says Obama isn't experienced to be Commander-In-Chief, but he's good enough to be VP. That only proves that she's willing to use Obama to get elected. She's an egomaniac. I am so sick and tired of her political games. People need to wake up and smell what she is slinging. If you want to set this country back another ten years, vote for Clinton. She's the same old thing. She isn't about change. She'll say and do anything to get elected. You cannot trust The Clintons. That has been proven in the past, and if you vote for her, you'll get burned again.

    March 10, 2008 07:52 pm at 7:52 pm |
  6. Jen

    I WOULD VOTE FOR A MONKEY FOR PRESIDENT BEFORE I WOULD VOTE FOR HILLARY. SHE THINKS AMERICA IS STUPID AND ONLY APPEALS TO THE WEAKEST OF HUMAN BEINGS. GO BARACK OBAMA!!!

    March 10, 2008 07:52 pm at 7:52 pm |
  7. Theresa

    Obama BROUGHT TO YOU AND PAID FOR BY THE ONE AND ONLY
    OPRA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i lIKE HER SHOW BUT SHE SHOULD NOT BUY THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE HERSELF???????????
    HAS SHE BOUGHT HIS COVERAGE?? HAS SHE BOUGHT THE SILENCE?? OHHHH NO ONE CAN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HIM!!

    WHAT IS UP WITH THIS ?? ITS AS IF SOMEONE OWES HIM SOMETHING??

    March 10, 2008 07:52 pm at 7:52 pm |
  8. Bebble

    Hillary can do better than choosing Obama. A CLINTON/EDWARDS ticket is what she should do. Remember Clinton won the big states and this race is far from over.

    The media staged this....they asked the question over and over.

    Obama is too full of himself. He's a spoiled child who wants the top prize or nothing. He will do damage in any position that gives him power.

    CLINTON/EDWARDS
    '08

    March 10, 2008 07:52 pm at 7:52 pm |
  9. jimmy vekmen

    Obama on lobbyists.! Does Senator Obama who has received endoresements from some Unions think that these Unions ecpect nothing in return for their endorsements?

    LOBBYING IN WASHINGTON, D.C. HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE POLITICAL SCENE NO MATTER WHO GETS ELECTED PRESIDENT.

    March 10, 2008 07:53 pm at 7:53 pm |
  10. Ed

    It concerns me that Hillary Clinton and her husband have not come to the realization that she cannot win the nomination. This newest suggestion that Obama act as Vice-President is ridiculous. She is behind and statistically cannot catch up. If these delusions of hers continue I would suggest that she get some medication and leave the reality of policy making to those that can actually see things clearly. Hillary Clinton represents all that is wrong with the Democratic party. One need only watch that nasty mean Hillary Clinton supporter, James Carville, offer to put up money for new elections in Michigan and Florida to understand that they are not the what we need. This nasty political maneuvering is typical of that hateful political style that started under Bill Clinton and continued under George Bush. It is time for a change! Go Barack Obama!!

    March 10, 2008 07:53 pm at 7:53 pm |
  11. JOHN

    AND NOW WE FIND OUT THAT VIARAGOZA CLINTONS CO CHAIR AND MAJOR OF L.A. RECIEVED OVER $7000 IN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM REZKO. WHAT? THIS IS SO LOW OF HILLARY TO SUGGEST OBAMA TAKE THE V.P. SPOT.... THROW THE COON A BONE AND HE'LL TAKE IT. THIS LADY IS GONE. I'LL NEVER VOTE FOR HER.

    March 10, 2008 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  12. Nelson

    Hillary should take some time to make a serious attempt at working on her marriage.

    March 10, 2008 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  13. Vig

    Obama wants to be top dog. He wants a free elevator ride to the top. What has he done to deserve the Presidency? Absolutely nothing. He was bored in the senate and impatient with the process of dealing with legislation. Seems to me he's one of those people who wants something for nothing. Hillary should treat him like an irritant.

    March 10, 2008 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  14. ds

    The Clintons sound like they are asking Obama to move to the back of the bus.

    March 10, 2008 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  15. karen

    Oh yeah, I forgot. Hillary needs to go home and get ready for her gig as a Material Witness in the Paul v. Clinton case. Check it out and make yourselves familiar with it, because its going to be a media circus if she gets the Democratic nod. Karl Rove will have a ball with it and the Dems will shoot themselves in the foot with an unelectable candidate. Why would Obama want to run with someone like her? Guess what? He wouldn't!!!

    March 10, 2008 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  16. Patricia

    I am outraged by this blatant political gamesmanship by the Clintons. It's just her way of positioning herself as the front-runner (which she is NOT). Shame On You Hillary Clinton.

    March 10, 2008 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  17. B 'n T

    You know, the media takes something, re-works it to suit them, and then plasters it all over the place and people buy it as gospel.

    Folks, here's what Clinton said (not only is it printed here but I've seen the video):
    "I've had people say, 'Well I wish I could vote for both of you,'" she said. "Well, that might be possible some day. But first I need your vote on Tuesday."

    NO where does she say anything about a Clinton/Obama ticket. NO where does she even suggest a joint ticket in any shape, form, or fashion. This is all pure news media hype. So don't pick on Clinton & don't pick on Obama... go to the source of this tripe and rip the MEDIA for trying to "create" news instead of "report" the news.

    March 10, 2008 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  18. Dems2008

    There is NO end to her madness. Senator Obama came out of no where and has really blown up!! The country is so tired of partisan politics and lobbyist controlled politics. Please go away...quietly!! She cannot catch Senator Obama and if she were winning we would not hear any of this crap. She would be blasting a totally different tribe. She has done some good, but she has mostly done bad. Scandal after scandal, lawsuits, misrepresentation and screaming into mic after mic. Can she tone it down a little. We hear you, we just don't like what we are hearing!!

    March 10, 2008 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  19. Denny Sangiovanni

    I don't know why people think it's Clinton idea. Every body was thinking that way about them, even the news did speculation about it long time ago. Also they keep saying that African american don't vote for Obama cause he is black, but Obama's pundits keep saying that Missisipi is coming and Obama will win cause there are a lot of African American in Missisipi (??). Why are we so naive?

    March 10, 2008 07:55 pm at 7:55 pm |
  20. dem08

    HILLARY= winner, first women president, awesome, great, beautiful, intelligent, fighter, caring,determination, will, strength, experience, strong etc. FOR THESE GREAT REASONS AND OF COURSE A LOT MORE, I WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THANK YOU HILLARY FOR FIGHTING FOR OUR VOTES HERE IN FLORIDA. WE FLORIDIANS ARE READY TO VOTE FOR YOU THE SECOND TIME.

    AS FOR YOU OBAMA, DON'T EVEN BOTHER TO ASK FOR OUR VOTE , SHOULD YOU WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION, WE WILL REMEMBER HOW YOU ARE TRYING TO DISENFRANCHISE OUR PRIMARY VOTE. SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    March 10, 2008 07:55 pm at 7:55 pm |
  21. Mark from San Diego

    Obama doesnt' need the Clinton baggage and all that comes with it. It will completely undermine his message of change if he accepts a VP positon from her or adds her to his ticket. The Dems need to dump her as quickly as possible.

    March 10, 2008 07:55 pm at 7:55 pm |
  22. Sherrie in CA

    Here's my recommendation:

    Go to each candidate's website and read their proposed policies and plans. Read them well. Then, when some new little blurb comes over the Internet or on TV, whether it's about NAFTA, or Obama's religious beliefs, or about Clinton's experience...DO SOME RESEARCH!!

    Before clamoring to these forums, ready to accuse someone of this or that, make sure what you're stating is TRUTH. There's so much garbage out there that it's actually become pretty comical to read these boards.

    I've chosen my candidate based on their platform, their history, and how they've run their campaign. I refuse to fall prey to ridiculous innuendo, short-sighted remarks, or insulting tactics. I would hope that all of us are just looking to elect someone who can move us past this current administration and on to something better - while still maintaining our integrity.

    That's just my recommendation...

    March 10, 2008 07:55 pm at 7:55 pm |
  23. Mike in NYC

    I'm no fan of Clinton, but VP is all Obama can hope for.

    Spin it all you want, Obamaniacs, but he doesn't have, and never will have, the demographic breadth needed to win the general election.

    Blacks, liberal whites, and independents/republicans who would never vote for a white candidate with a record as liberal as his - this is all he has.

    He'll have a lead in delegates (who knows, maybe even a lead in the popular vote) going into the convention. Then the collision of fantasy with truth will occur, and we'll have fireworks galore! I envision a truckload of illusions being destroyed in the process.

    March 10, 2008 07:55 pm at 7:55 pm |
  24. Belle

    Could all of you Hillary Haters take a step back JUST FOR ONE MOMENT?

    Just for one moment...Hillary Clinton loves this country. She does what she says she is going to do. She took on National Healthcare when NO ONE had the guts to. She has consistently felt NAFTA should be reviewed and ALL contracts in WTO be looked at and renegotiated. She has the support of 27 flag officers. She has been vindicated by CNN's own article trying to degrade her about experience. She practices things like learning how to forgive. You can spin it all you want, but she stands on her record, and only asks that you personally research it. I have...I used to hate Hillary Clinton...well...I was wrong!

    I judged her based on her husband's actions. Figured she had to know what was going on...and should have left him...but guess what? What if you don't believe in divorce? Talk about commitment...what if you do believe in commitment? Doesn't REAL commitment mean no matter what? How many of us have that kind of commitment?

    Most folks just leave with I loved you the best I could...yadayada...but really they are saying they NEVER were committed in the first place.

    So here is Clinton...she is AHEAD in the popular vote; (Unlike Obama Democrats, I believe ALL Democrats' vote should be counted, and NOT disenfranchised by some party leader who should NEVER have that kind of power in the first place) She has won 298 Electoral votes vs. Obama's 190 in his RED states.

    But she believes in the Democratic Party. She knows neither will have the votes to win. You can say all you want Obama is ahead...but sealing the deal is having ENOUGH to win. Neither do. The Party is divided. Clinton offers the Olive Branch and Obama ridicules her for it.

    I think Clinton is showing more leadership than Obama ever could.

    March 10, 2008 07:55 pm at 7:55 pm |
  25. Theresa

    OPPS WILL YOU NOT POST MY COMMENT OR HAS SHE BOUGHT U TOO! (OPRAH)

    March 10, 2008 07:55 pm at 7:55 pm |
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