March 11th, 2008
09:50 AM ET
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Does Clinton benefit from so-called 'dream ticket' talk?

 Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

(CNN) - It's an idea that's increasingly getting kicked around, especially by one campaign in particular.

The prospect of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama running on the same ticket has long been the subject of speculation, even before voters started weighing in at the polls earlier this year.

But following Clinton's wins in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island last week - a trifecta of victories that essentially salvaged her presidential hopes - the New York senator and her surrogates have repeatedly raised the issue themselves; raised it so often, in fact, that Obama made sure to shoot down the idea at a campaign event in Mississippi Monday.

"I want everybody to be absolutely clear," he said. "I'm not running for vice president. I'm running for president of the United States of America."

"This kind of gamesmanship, talking about me as VP but not ready for commander-in-chief, that's exactly the kind of doublespeak, double-talk that Washington is very good at," Obama added.

Obama isn't the only one who thinks Clinton has something up her sleeve when she raises the issue. CNN Senior Political Correspondent Candy Crowley says the Illinois senator's campaign clearly recognizes its rival benefits from the increased speculation of a joint ticket.

"They understand that this is a way for the Clinton campaign to play some politics here," Crowley said. "If you suggest to voters, who might have some question about Barack Obama's experience, but they like his message of hope and change, that they could have both, and that maybe he could get eight years of seasoning, that's the suggestion here."(Watch Candy Crowley's analysis of Dem dream ticket talk)

Obama's comments Monday followed a week in which the prospect of a joint ticket was pushed by Clinton or a member of her campaign on at least four different occasions. Clinton herself raised the issue twice - once with a CBS interviewer on the morning after her March 4 primary wins, and on Friday during a campaign stop in Mississippi.

"I've had people say, 'Well I wish I could vote for both of you,'" she said. "Well, that might be possible some day. But first I need your vote on Tuesday."

Former President Bill Clinton also weighed in on the possibility over the weekend, calling the possible ticket 'unstoppable.'

"I know that she has always been open to it, because she believes that if you can unite the energy and the new people that he's brought in and the people in these vast swaths of small town and rural America that she's carried overwhelmingly, if you had those two things together she thinks it'd be hard to beat," he said in Mississippi Saturday.

And Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a fervent supporter of Clinton's, said on two different occasions he thinks whoever wins the Democratic race should offer the vice presidency to the other.

Gloria Borger, a senior political analyst for CNN, called the comments a Clinton "talking point."

"They're trying to say to people, you know 'wink, wink, if you make Hillary Clinton the nominee, she'll bring Barack Obama along.' It's a talking point, which is that with Hillary you get two for the price of one—if she is at the top of the ticket."

But there's no denying the Clintons recognize the strength Obama would bring to a presidential ticket. Each has attracted a distinct segment of the Democratic electorate: He consistently does well with upscale voters, independents, and African-Americans while she has performed well among women, older voters, and members of the working class.

"Thee Clintons clearly believe that Obama on the ticket would both unify the party and be a draw, particularly to those African-American voters who have been flocking to him. There is clearly some sense it would cement a Democratic victory."

So would Clinton herself accept the No. 2 slot should Obama finish the race on top?

"I don't make any predictions," Borger said.

- CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

UPDATE: Clinton said Monday all the V.P. speculation has taken on a life of its own:

"This thing has really been given a life of its own. A lot of Democrats like us both and have been very hopeful that they wouldn't have to make a choice, but obviously democrats have to make a choice, and I'm looking for to getting the nomination and it's preliminary to talk about whoever might be on whose ticket," she said while campaigning in Pennsylvania. "But I believe I am ready to serve on day one."

soundoff (1,377 Responses)
  1. Gina

    From Boston,
    In an article posted here by CNN Clinton was quoted as saying that "they would have to decide who would be on top and that the people in Ohio have cleary stated they thought it should be her."
    That pretty much sounds like she thinks she should be on top to me.

    March 10, 2008 09:02 pm at 9:02 pm |
  2. Speak for yourself!

    Senator Obama does not represent the people in America who believe that the government is owned by the people....or if you think that – explain his position then (which is opposite what you wrote) to the voters in Michigan and Florida? Is that not for his own political gain that those votes NOT count? So much for the government owned by the people...LOL!!!

    I will not vote for Senator Obama if he is #1 on the ticket. I do not support nuclear weapons and Senator Obama does. I do not support anyway that parrots their opponent and then twists words to be their own and I certainly do not support anyone who insists on playing 'follow the leader' when they want to play leader. Who would they follow then?

    He is just too inexperienced and green. His campaign mgmt has huge flaws (Canada, IRAQ) and they made a major error in Michigan by willfully taking his name off the ballot. Now that was just void of thought.

    So just speak for yourselves instead of the blanket statements that only show your own naive and ignorant manners.

    March 10, 2008 09:02 pm at 9:02 pm |
  3. Just the Facts

    SHe is according to the CNN report "fueling the idea"…I say she can put all the gas she wants in this car but it isn't going anywhere!

    March 10, 2008 09:03 pm at 9:03 pm |
  4. Clare

    the Clintons are only voicing out what many of us believe to the case. the obama followers call Hillary arrogan and with a sense of entitlement. What makes you think that obama is not suffering from the same? he is arrogant to think that he can be the president of the US just because he is cashing in the discontent with the present president. he talks about changes, what changes? what is he going to change? he and his followers want ALL of the democratic votes, yet he does not think about the party or that matter the country. His candidady is all self-serving his ego. threatening people that this is "our only chance" to vote for him. If you truly are a dedicated individual to your country and truly believe that we need to change, then you persist.

    Hillary will never benefit from having obama as vp. he would. not only the obama followers need to wake up and see reality, more importantly obama has to wake up.

    CNN stopped censoring my comments.

    March 10, 2008 09:03 pm at 9:03 pm |
  5. Nina

    Hey Jude – Not this blue.
    I hope Hillary comes to her senses and doesn't degrade herself by being on the same ticket with Obama.
    If the youngsters of the US are so obsessed with this Pied Piper they vote him in – I want Hillary in the Senate, or better yet, as a Supreme Court Justice.
    This life long Dem will see and vote red if the Piper gets the nod.

    Oh, and before you spout off on Hillary's supporters being ignorant, I am a Mensan.

    March 10, 2008 09:04 pm at 9:04 pm |
  6. from chicago

    Being from ILL. Please tell me what he has done for my State? I myself haven't seen it. Oprah tells every-one he's great , but I still don't see it. When Bill Clinton was in office, I thought the economy looked good, people from every race seemed too be happy, most had a job making a avg. income. The country was strong & the seemed too be moving in the right way. I do support Hillary , hoping Bill would lend support if need be. I feel Barack is not ready for this task. Because you sign people up too vote in my book won't make him strong enough too beat McCain let alone run this country.no ill feelings toward Barack or his family. this country needs too unite too get this country back too the super power it once was. We don't want Ted Kennedy teaching Barack on how too run the White House. Pushing him on un-popular bills he wants too get through the Senate.

    March 10, 2008 09:04 pm at 9:04 pm |
  7. Dave

    Re: America the Beautiful-
    Check Hillary's long track record of scandals. It is commonly agreed that she is the most divisive candidate, indeed the polls show Obama with an edge against McCain.

    March 10, 2008 09:04 pm at 9:04 pm |
  8. Lovell Sewell

    Hi, Bloggers

    Here I go again have to give people a reality check.
    First Clinton supporters I am getting to point that everyone of you not a real Democrat because if that would have been Obama that lost 11 straight states and won only the big ones Democrat would have been thrown him over aboard. You all this is not fair but instead of admitting it you will stand by your supporter. If any you was in sport and your candidate was winning and someone came and took it from them you can not tell me you will not be upset. We need to stop belittling our candidates and stand for them when they are wrong and when they are right.

    1. Let’s compare the beginning of this race Michigan and Florida was stripped of their delegates. Obama and Hillary knew this and the Governors of these states knew. Not one was concern about the people now thanks to Hillary because she wants the votes want to seat these delegates. After now she is loosing. Why was neither Governor Kris nor Governor Granholm worrying about the people in their states then? Also, where was Hillary Clinton?

    2. Hillary Clinton wants the super delegates to erase the popular vote from delegates sign by states. Now she saying even the ones that voted in states can change their minds.

    3. Hillary Clinton brought up Obama being her VP. Trying to lie for she can pick up Obama voters.

    4. Hillary Clinton going to say her and McCain has long life experience Obama don't. When ask to prove she dodge the answer. Along with not furnishing her tax records and who furnish Bill Clinton library.

    5. The media trying to tie Obama with Rizko, but now we have a Govenor Spitzer of New York who endorses Hillary Clinton and with one voice saying she will pray for his family and with the same voice take all the fundraising he did off her website. I wonder if she going to give back all the money he gave her campaign. Obama had to for Rizko and that was just a friend, here we have a Governor and they are friends. So how many friends she has that do dirt why everyone try to slang Obama for his friends.

    I am not saying we going to loose because people want vote for Hillary like some of her people saying about Obama people. I am saying here is dirty politics at it best and I hear people speak on Change and yet let the Clinton use our party anyway they want. This should not be called Democrat party this needs to be called the CLINTONS PARTY. This is the reason she will have a hard time winning.

    March 10, 2008 09:04 pm at 9:04 pm |
  9. Adam in Pittsburg

    NO DREAM TICKET FOR YOU CLINTON LOVERS. IF YOU STEAL THIS NOMINATION, YOU WILL NOT HAVE OBAMA AS YOUR VEEP. YOU WILL THEN LOSE TO MCCAIN IN NOVEMBER AND OBAMA WILL RUN AGAIN IN 2012 AT AGE 50 AND WIN THE WHITE HOUSE.

    IF WE DEMOCRATS LOSE THE WHITE HOUSE IN 2008, YOU WILL HAVE BILL AND HILLARY TO THANK JUST LIKE IN 2000 WHEN GORE LOST ARKANSAS AND TENNESSEE.

    March 10, 2008 09:04 pm at 9:04 pm |
  10. Tony

    my family has 6 votes, if not for Hillary, they will go to Mccain. it is called the silent majority. good luck to all.

    March 10, 2008 09:04 pm at 9:04 pm |
  11. Adam in Pittsburg

    Hillary needs more real leadership experience. She should run for Governor of New York considering her superdelegate friend will be stepping down in the next few hours.

    March 10, 2008 09:05 pm at 9:05 pm |
  12. James

    Obama may be winning more states and delegates, but he isn't winning the majority of the Democratic base. Clinton is.

    This is an election to choose who will represent the Democratic party in the general election for President, and Obama does not represent the party. His followers are mostly new voters, independants, Republican cross-overs, and of coarse, the African-American community who are supporting him just because he is half black. They've abandoned Hillary (who they strongly favored before Obama became a household name), because they are voting with their hearts rather then their heads. I understand it. But when you add up all his supporters, again, they are not the Democratic base, and it's the superdelegates job to protect the party and the base.

    Obama permanently placed a wedge between his supporters and those of Clintons today by flatly rejecting the idea of being Clintons VP. At least she recognizes we need the ENTIRE party to win in November, but Obamas arrogance showed all of us Democrats that he is more concerned about himself then the party, and if he is our nominee, half the party will walk away from him and the DNC, and McCain will win.

    March 10, 2008 09:05 pm at 9:05 pm |
  13. Hank in PA

    I agree that Hillary could do much better in a VP Choice. JOhn Edwards is a real live public servant with the kind of experience America needs.

    Obama needs to replace his slogan - yes we can - it really is more like - yes I can - as his past dealing make it clear that he is in it for himself, not for the good of the country.

    Smart Men for Hillary '08

    March 10, 2008 09:06 pm at 9:06 pm |
  14. Mandi Locke

    Hillary Clinton needs a major reality check. She knows that there is NO way that she can capture the nomination unless she continues to play dirty and grasp at political straws. Wake up, Hillary! You won't be at the top of ANY ticket this fall and hopefully Obama is smart enough not to ask you to be his VP. Disgusting politics equals disgusted public opinion.

    March 10, 2008 09:06 pm at 9:06 pm |
  15. Matt from NH

    this is once again a poor attempt for hillary to try to look like a president. She is pretty much a joke now, all day my friends and i Laugh about her new attempts. We are thinking of starting a pool to see what comes next. this is exciting politics...lol

    March 10, 2008 09:07 pm at 9:07 pm |
  16. Kate

    Good for him. Don't take the bait.

    Obama's vision for America does not include the ugly, divisive tactics of HRC's.

    He is not going to play the "sidekick" figure that HRC and her old white crowd think that minorities should play. You know, like that asian boy in Raiders of the Lost Ark, or the black partner to the white cop. Sorry, he will not be the "bone" that HRC throws to the African American community in a spirit of tokenism.

    Hillary can not win mathematically. She can't catch up. She;s hoping to try to steal the nomination in the back room. Problem is, if the first AA candidate in US history is robbed, the AA community (not to mention the millions of young people) will sit out November. She is guaranteed a loss if she steals it. By refusing to allow her to steal the nomination and put him as VP to quell the outrage, he is calling her bluff.

    March 10, 2008 09:08 pm at 9:08 pm |
  17. Frank, Dayton, Ohio

    Exactly what was the Clinton campaign expecting Obama to do, embrace them and say "oh, yay, I get to run for VICE president with Hillary"?!!

    Good for you, Barack Obama, for calling her bluff on this!

    March 10, 2008 09:09 pm at 9:09 pm |
  18. Bryan in VA

    Why is the Clinton News Network proclaiming a Texas victory for Clinton? Obama won more total delegates in Texas!!!

    March 10, 2008 09:09 pm at 9:09 pm |
  19. Gina

    From Boston,
    Here's the quote:
    'Hillary Clinton told a CBS interviewer earlier this week, shortly after she ended a string of 11 losses with wins in Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island, that a joint ticket "may be where this is headed. But of course we have to decide who is on the top of ticket. I think the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."

    March 10, 2008 09:09 pm at 9:09 pm |
  20. Adam in Pittsburg

    To the poster above....Senator Nelson from Florida supported the move that led to the loss of delegates from his state. He should be fired by the voters in Florida because he helped them lose that right. Florida voters are smarter than that and are not blaming the DNC, the RNC, the republican governor, Obama, Clinton, Edwards, Bush, etc. They need to place the blame on the people who wanted to move the primary, which is every democratic member who voted to approve the move.

    March 10, 2008 09:09 pm at 9:09 pm |
  21. Bob, Kapaa, HI

    This just confirms the Clintons will do anything, say anything, to try and hoodwink the American voter. Absolutely ridiculous.

    I am a big Obama fan, but if Hillary ends up on this ticket, in any position, I will vote for John McCain.

    March 10, 2008 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
  22. JAMES IN BAMA

    I THINK THAT IT ALL PLAYS INTO HILLARY'S HAND BECAUSE PEOPLE SEE THE WAY THINGS ARE. AND THAT IS, THAT OBAMA AS ENERGETIC AND WITH ALL HIS HOPE AND CHANGE SPEACHES JSUT IS NOT READY TO TAKE ON MCCAIN, AND THEY SEE IT AS A WIN WIN FOR THE PARTY TO HAVE OBAMA AS V.P. THEY KNOW OBAMA IS NOT ELECTABLE AGAINST MCCAIN AND HILLARY CAN TAKE WHAT THE REPUBLICANS LIKE MCCAIN AND ROVE CAN DISH OUT. OBAMA IS NOT A BAD PERSON, BUT BECAUSE OF HIS TOTAL LACK OF EXPERINCE HE IS NOT ABLE TO COUNTER THE ATTACKS (ALTHOUGH VERY LIGHT SO FAR) THAT HAVE COME HIS WAY. AND I DONT THINK THAT HE WILL STAND MUCH OF A CHANCE IF THE REPUBLICANS PUT FORTH ANY EFFORT ON PUSHING THE ISSUES AND QUESTION HIS EXPERIENCE, QUALIFICATIONS, OR HIS STANCE ON MANY TOUGH ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE. AND WITH HIS NAFTA-CANADA DEAL, AND THE FACT THAT SPEACHES ABOUT CHANGE AND HOPE WILL NOT DEFLECT EVERY OTHER POINT BROUGHT UP BY ANYONE WHO IS AGAINST HIM, I THINK HE IS A MUCH WEAKER CANNIDATE THAN MANY PEOPLE SEE HIM AS. EVEN WITH THE BIG BLOWS HE HAS TAKEN FROM HILLARY, AND HER NOT SEAMING TO WANT TO PUSH HIM TO MUCH ON IT. I THINK MCCAIN WILL BREAK HIM UNDER THE PRESSURE IF HE IS PUT THERE. SO LETS GET HILLARY THERE TO FIGHT IT OUT AGAINST MCCAIN, AND ASK OBAMA TO GIVE US SOME HOPE AS A V.P. AND THEN IN 4-8 YEARS WHEN HE CAN SEE WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THERE WE CAN PUT HIM UP AND EXPECT HIM TO WIN. AND A FURTHER NOTE. LETS RE-DO IF POSSIBLE THE MICHIGAN PRIMARY, IT WAS NOT FAIR THE FIRST TIME. AND AS FAR AS THE FLROIDA CONTEST, I DONT SEE HOW IT COULD HAVE BEEN ANY FAIRER. NO ONE CAMPAINGED, MADE APPEARENCES, OR HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT AND THE POEPLE VOTED. EVERYONES NAMES WERE ON THE BALLETS. SO LET THOSE VOTES AND DELEGATES STAND WHERE THEY WERE CAST!!! AND NO MATTER WHAT, WE HAVE TO SEAT ALL OF THE FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN DELEGATS EVEN IF THERE IS NO RE-DO. WE NEED THEM THERE TO SETTLE THIS OUT, AND THE QUICKER THE BETTER!! THANKS.

    March 10, 2008 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
  23. dee kay

    FORGET OBAMA.....WHO WANTS HIM ANYWAY. WHAT A DEVISIVE CANDIDATE.

    HILLARY, JUST WIN IT AND THEN SHOVE IT DOWN OBAMA'S THROAT.

    YOU HAVE MY VOTE HILLARY.

    March 10, 2008 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
  24. B Dogg

    I really liked Hillary until I got to know what kind of person, and candidate she really is.

    March 10, 2008 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
  25. Michelle

    Hillary is so sad. I suppose there is someone dumb enough to fall for this, probably more than I dare think about. She is sad, pathetic and totally despicable 🙂

    She is trying to mind screw people. Sadly it works on some.

    March 10, 2008 09:11 pm at 9:11 pm |
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