March 11th, 2008
09:50 AM ET
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Does Clinton benefit from so-called 'dream ticket' talk?

 Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

(CNN) - It's an idea that's increasingly getting kicked around, especially by one campaign in particular.

The prospect of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama running on the same ticket has long been the subject of speculation, even before voters started weighing in at the polls earlier this year.

But following Clinton's wins in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island last week - a trifecta of victories that essentially salvaged her presidential hopes - the New York senator and her surrogates have repeatedly raised the issue themselves; raised it so often, in fact, that Obama made sure to shoot down the idea at a campaign event in Mississippi Monday.

"I want everybody to be absolutely clear," he said. "I'm not running for vice president. I'm running for president of the United States of America."

"This kind of gamesmanship, talking about me as VP but not ready for commander-in-chief, that's exactly the kind of doublespeak, double-talk that Washington is very good at," Obama added.

Obama isn't the only one who thinks Clinton has something up her sleeve when she raises the issue. CNN Senior Political Correspondent Candy Crowley says the Illinois senator's campaign clearly recognizes its rival benefits from the increased speculation of a joint ticket.

"They understand that this is a way for the Clinton campaign to play some politics here," Crowley said. "If you suggest to voters, who might have some question about Barack Obama's experience, but they like his message of hope and change, that they could have both, and that maybe he could get eight years of seasoning, that's the suggestion here."(Watch Candy Crowley's analysis of Dem dream ticket talk)

Obama's comments Monday followed a week in which the prospect of a joint ticket was pushed by Clinton or a member of her campaign on at least four different occasions. Clinton herself raised the issue twice - once with a CBS interviewer on the morning after her March 4 primary wins, and on Friday during a campaign stop in Mississippi.

"I've had people say, 'Well I wish I could vote for both of you,'" she said. "Well, that might be possible some day. But first I need your vote on Tuesday."

Former President Bill Clinton also weighed in on the possibility over the weekend, calling the possible ticket 'unstoppable.'

"I know that she has always been open to it, because she believes that if you can unite the energy and the new people that he's brought in and the people in these vast swaths of small town and rural America that she's carried overwhelmingly, if you had those two things together she thinks it'd be hard to beat," he said in Mississippi Saturday.

And Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a fervent supporter of Clinton's, said on two different occasions he thinks whoever wins the Democratic race should offer the vice presidency to the other.

Gloria Borger, a senior political analyst for CNN, called the comments a Clinton "talking point."

"They're trying to say to people, you know 'wink, wink, if you make Hillary Clinton the nominee, she'll bring Barack Obama along.' It's a talking point, which is that with Hillary you get two for the price of one—if she is at the top of the ticket."

But there's no denying the Clintons recognize the strength Obama would bring to a presidential ticket. Each has attracted a distinct segment of the Democratic electorate: He consistently does well with upscale voters, independents, and African-Americans while she has performed well among women, older voters, and members of the working class.

"Thee Clintons clearly believe that Obama on the ticket would both unify the party and be a draw, particularly to those African-American voters who have been flocking to him. There is clearly some sense it would cement a Democratic victory."

So would Clinton herself accept the No. 2 slot should Obama finish the race on top?

"I don't make any predictions," Borger said.

- CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

UPDATE: Clinton said Monday all the V.P. speculation has taken on a life of its own:

"This thing has really been given a life of its own. A lot of Democrats like us both and have been very hopeful that they wouldn't have to make a choice, but obviously democrats have to make a choice, and I'm looking for to getting the nomination and it's preliminary to talk about whoever might be on whose ticket," she said while campaigning in Pennsylvania. "But I believe I am ready to serve on day one."

soundoff (1,377 Responses)
  1. Derrick

    To America the Beautiful
    What are you smoking! The Clintons are absolutely the most scandolous couple in the history of American politics. Hilary Clinton receives hundreds of thousands from Insurance companies and then tells you want to give you universal Health Care. Hilary Clinton votes for bankruptcy reform to make it harder for average American to get out from under debt. The Clintons support NAFTA. The Clintons received 10 million from Saudi Arabia for their library. She has numerous ties to questionable fundraisers one doing time in jail (Hsu) and the other fleeing the country to avoid prosecution. She lies about negotiating peace deals in Kosovo and N. Ireland. I was in my 30's when the Clinton's were in power and recollection of the historical facts do not bear this out.

    Obama has been extremely restrained because you Clintonites will scream that he is going negative when he points out her problems. Face it America unless Jesus Christ himself is running you can tie EVERY candidate to someone that is questionable.

    By the way how much experience did Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, and George Bush have before getting elected. Remember this was the knock on Clinton. Oh but I forget you memory only goes back to 2000!

    March 10, 2008 09:28 pm at 9:28 pm |
  2. John Smith

    Because NUMBERS do not lie, I hope this will help all advocates to look at these and chill off:

    Pledged Delegates: Obama = 1,347; Hillary = 1,200 (+147 for Obama)

    SuperDelegates: Obama = 206 (up from 90); Hillary = 238 (down by 25)

    Total Pledged + SuperDel
    Obama = 1,553; Hillary = 1,438 (+ 115 for Obama)

    Texas Caucus
    Obama = 23,918; Hillary = 18,620 (+5,298 for Obama)

    Even if Hillary wins all the remaining states (including MI and FL), the odds of catching up to Obama is virtually impossible. So, this is a done deal folks! Note that any win will result in shared number of (proportional) delegates for these 2 candidates. Also, note that some SuperDels have started to shift to Obama. If you cannot deal with these numbers as facts, you must be a "blind" advocate!!

    March 10, 2008 09:29 pm at 9:29 pm |
  3. Mark

    From what I read NPR.org reported Obama victorious.. but it is nice to see you guys are going to pick the winner, along with Fox, and company.

    Bravo mainstream media.. and here I thought the people were going to be responsible for once.

    March 10, 2008 09:29 pm at 9:29 pm |
  4. Becky Montgomery

    Note to DNC: trying to force these two on the same ticket: NO. It won't fly.

    March 10, 2008 09:30 pm at 9:30 pm |
  5. clinton

    does anyone know this quote?

    "we should on all Occasions avoid a general Action, or put anything to the Risque, unless compelled by a necessity, into which we ought never to be drawn." George Washington

    Can anyone tell me obama's campaign is running against the meaning of this quote?

    You know obama is following the principals of the first and most notible commander in chief in the histoy of the united states.

    Some are calling his lack of attacks against hillary clinton as weak, but he obama knows something george washington knows and america has forgotten. Washinton message was to chose your battles and chose them wisely and to take part in battles which mean little to america and its well being.

    One battle he is fighting is spreading hope as did george washington who was elected as the first commander in chief. So far his voting against the war in iraq follows the quote of values. Did hillary clintons choice follow his quote? Comaparing each persons campaign thus far do you believe hillary resembles anything that our country was founded on? Beyond the choice to very quickly go into iraq which clearly does not follow the greatest commander in chief's vision, please convince why to vote for hillary? What has hillary done worthy of mine and other obama supporters votes without a tear down of obama and without comparison of the two if obama was not in the picture why should i vote for her?

    March 10, 2008 09:30 pm at 9:30 pm |
  6. derek steinbeck

    Barack Obama should be happy to become VP. If he doesn't want the job and gets more experience there, well I believe he never will have another chance to become our president. By the way there are other great contenders for VP. The black congress man Ford would be a great choice or Mr Rundell from Pennsylvania or Ben Nelson from Florida or Mr Strickland from Ohio, a must win state for the Democrats.
    Who is Barack Obama, that being a VP is not good enough for him?
    For the first time the press gave Obama a little negative coverage and he got cold feet. That shows that he is not ready. Under Hillary Clinton as President he would learn more to be ready, but may be he never is ready for the top job!

    Derek Steinbeck

    March 10, 2008 09:30 pm at 9:30 pm |
  7. aware

    Barack isn't ready for a president or a vice president spot. However, his refusal to consider a vp spot shows his arrogant me first and only me egomania and power hungry character.

    Give it up Barack! You are a loser!

    Hillary the HOPE of 08 and the smart choice! Yes, we will! 🙂

    March 10, 2008 09:32 pm at 9:32 pm |
  8. Tubby The Tuba

    Hillary is manipulative...she would NOT offer anything to Obama..she is lying again. She is soooo willing to let the front runner for the presidency of the US of A be her Vice?...but he is good enough to be the President. According to her, John McCain is better prepared to be the president than Obama? Doublespeak....Old politics....same ol Clinton.

    March 10, 2008 09:33 pm at 9:33 pm |
  9. Ellie

    Do you remember when you were a "kid" and your mother told you "NO"? And you tried and tried to convince her to change her mind, and in the end the answer was still NO?????

    WELL HILLARY AND BILLY BOY: THE ANSWER IS NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    March 10, 2008 09:33 pm at 9:33 pm |
  10. Adam in Pittsburg

    Obama/Edwards in 2008!

    I will vote for McCain if HIllary is on the ticket.

    March 10, 2008 09:33 pm at 9:33 pm |
  11. jujub

    I can't believe this...why on earth would Barack Obama want to be within 100 feet of Hillary Clinton any time in the future?

    She has spent months bashing his his religion (he's Christian not Muslim), his Church (what about the priests who abused children folks or McCain's buddy who is an Anti-Semite), his patriotism (he was singing the National Anthem not saying the Pledge of Allegiance), his drug use (fully disclosed in a book he wrote years ago), his middle name (means Beautiful not Terrorist) ; his voting "present" as an Illinois Senator (something that is a political vote, not an absentee vote), his experience (he has 3 more years in an elected judicial position), his position of NAFTA (his other book wrote of his position and the Clintons did the wink wink to Canada), his Senate bills and record (far more substantive bills and resolutions than HRC); his absence after his announced his presidency (she has voted less than him and has also been absent); his purported plagiarism (while she plagiarizes his words); his lead in the race for the nomination (she is behind folks)....need I say more. Hillary: You and your supporters are truly delusional.

    March 10, 2008 09:33 pm at 9:33 pm |
  12. SWING STATE FAMILY

    "This thing has really been given a life of its own." Clinton
    -------------------------------

    Ok, tell me, of all the people here, who is seriously stupid enough to believe that ?

    March 10, 2008 09:34 pm at 9:34 pm |
  13. Gloria Blake

    If Obama doesn't accept the VP slot if offered to him, he really does not care about the Democratic Party and its people. On the other hand, he did say that WashingtonDC is a place where good ideas go to die. So why is he in such a hurry to get there?

    March 10, 2008 09:34 pm at 9:34 pm |
  14. Adam in Pittsburgh

    Obama/Edwards!!!!!

    March 10, 2008 09:34 pm at 9:34 pm |
  15. Liz in Texas

    How about Obama/Edwards? or Obama/Richardson? Or my son even suggested Obama/Guiliani!!

    I will take Obama/anything....no Clinton in there please. Clintons are nothing but politics as usual and now they're playing dirty pool.

    March 10, 2008 09:35 pm at 9:35 pm |
  16. Laura

    It's obvious that you guys keep supporting the Clinton campaign.
    You alway put up misleading delegate numbers. Then the other day, you said that Barack's lead over McCain was about the same a Hillary's klead over McCain, when Barack's lead was twice as much!

    Shame on you "journalists" for your lack of ethics.

    LS

    March 10, 2008 09:36 pm at 9:36 pm |
  17. Jake

    Whoever posted OBAMA will drive America down. Look at America Now dum dums. Some of you up here are delusional, and I don't know if its just ignorance or what, but wake up.

    American is already headed down, to the point that Foreign countries are just pouring money to buy the FOR SALE AMERICA.

    WE ALL NEED TO STOP TEARING EACH OTHER APART ABOUT THIS SITUATION CAUSE FOR DEMOCRATS ITS TEARING YOU ALL APART, YOUR NOT DEMOCRATS, YOUR HILLOCRATS OR OBAMACRATS. We all are not retarded here, we see what is going on, and politicians have been doing it for years. Its up to the American people to decide who the president will be and they will do so. But one thing I do Know, have some respect and try not to be so offensive while posting your opinions.

    March 10, 2008 09:36 pm at 9:36 pm |
  18. Adam in Pittsburgh

    Lets get real.....shame on you New York Governor who raised money for the Clintons....Lets get real! Meet me in Mississippi! Wait, I mean meet me in states where blue collar white workers and white women make up the majority....and in Puerto Rico where they have more delegates than New Hampshire. Shame on you Senator Nelson for voting to approve stripping your state of delegates and then you try to blame everyone in the politcial system but yourself and your buddies in Florida.

    March 10, 2008 09:36 pm at 9:36 pm |
  19. Steve

    If Hillary is on the ticket you can bet McCain will win. Hillary is and always has been a very divisive character. She will turn off too many Independant voters and the Neocons will rally to get Repub voters to the polls to keep her out of office.

    Obama appeals to a much broader audience. He'll draw far more Independant votes than HIllary will. He'd have a good chance of beating McCain. If Hillary gets the nomination, you can count on four more years of a Republican Whitehouse.

    March 10, 2008 09:37 pm at 9:37 pm |
  20. Lamont,Jackson,Ms

    I'm a Mississippian, the idea of our news channels favoritism for certain canidates is a for sure notion, that racism is still alive and ongoing. When Mrs.Clinton was here, her telecast was on three different T.V. Channels. Barack could only be seen on the internet ,I think that's unfair.

    March 10, 2008 09:37 pm at 9:37 pm |
  21. Mandy

    Sooo, when I say to Mr. Obama that I want to vote for both of them, his answer would not be "that might be a consideration in the future"?

    If Mr. Obama is so eliquent and such a good guy what exactly would his answer be?????

    I guess trying to be polite and positive for the party isn't the correct thing for Hilary to do.

    I guess she should just say hell NO he doesn't have the experience.....,double talker.....etc., etc...

    Go Hilary

    March 10, 2008 09:37 pm at 9:37 pm |
  22. Rattler

    No Way . Bill should offer his opinion to the NY Gov on how to lie thru his predicament and yes Hillary to advise Mrs Gov at this time. This is the only pairing Billary can do best right now.

    The Clintons have too much stinking baggage from their WHouse yrs. We don't need them back.

    March 10, 2008 09:38 pm at 9:38 pm |
  23. Russell Nc

    It is nothing but a ploy by the Clintons to try to get more votes for her.

    March 10, 2008 09:38 pm at 9:38 pm |
  24. Glenn

    Hillary cannot even manage her own campaign. How in the Hell is she ever going to run the country. The way she has run her campaign sounds an awful lot like the way Bushie has run the country. BLIND LOYALTY TO PEOPE WHO SCREW UP!! Sound familiar "Your doing a heckova job Brownie" (substitue, Mark Penn et,al for Brownie) There is no way that BARACK needs to play second fiddle to her. He leads and she is desperate. Maybe if she had planned for a campaign after super tuesday that it would be over, but apparently life after super tuesday was not even on their radar scope.

    WELL HILLARY, A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO YOUR CORONATION, LOL.

    OBAMA '08

    March 10, 2008 09:39 pm at 9:39 pm |
  25. Jim

    This is the same old politics that we've come to know and detest from Washington, notably the current regime, and now from Clinton.

    I am a die hard Democrat, but I'll vote for Nader before I cast a vote for a woman who will clearly say or do anything– including praise her Republican rival while at the same time denigrating her Democratic opponent– in order to obtain power.

    Do the math! Her campaign cannot hope to match, let alone exceed, Obama's delegate total. Even if she wins every contest from now until the convention with a 10% margin! So now they float this nonsense about well, they might consider Obama as a number two. They've got to, as they have no other hope of selling Her Imperiousness as a viable candidate to the super delegates and the convention as a whole!

    Just say no to politics as usual. Just say no to the candidate who voted to send our troops into the Iraqi quagmire. Just say no to the Rovian slimeball politicking we've come to expect out of Washington beltway politicos.

    Say yes to hope and change!

    Obama 08!

    March 10, 2008 09:40 pm at 9:40 pm |
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