March 11th, 2008
09:50 AM ET
12 years ago

Does Clinton benefit from so-called 'dream ticket' talk?

 Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

(CNN) - It's an idea that's increasingly getting kicked around, especially by one campaign in particular.

The prospect of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama running on the same ticket has long been the subject of speculation, even before voters started weighing in at the polls earlier this year.

But following Clinton's wins in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island last week - a trifecta of victories that essentially salvaged her presidential hopes - the New York senator and her surrogates have repeatedly raised the issue themselves; raised it so often, in fact, that Obama made sure to shoot down the idea at a campaign event in Mississippi Monday.

"I want everybody to be absolutely clear," he said. "I'm not running for vice president. I'm running for president of the United States of America."

"This kind of gamesmanship, talking about me as VP but not ready for commander-in-chief, that's exactly the kind of doublespeak, double-talk that Washington is very good at," Obama added.

Obama isn't the only one who thinks Clinton has something up her sleeve when she raises the issue. CNN Senior Political Correspondent Candy Crowley says the Illinois senator's campaign clearly recognizes its rival benefits from the increased speculation of a joint ticket.

"They understand that this is a way for the Clinton campaign to play some politics here," Crowley said. "If you suggest to voters, who might have some question about Barack Obama's experience, but they like his message of hope and change, that they could have both, and that maybe he could get eight years of seasoning, that's the suggestion here."(Watch Candy Crowley's analysis of Dem dream ticket talk)

Obama's comments Monday followed a week in which the prospect of a joint ticket was pushed by Clinton or a member of her campaign on at least four different occasions. Clinton herself raised the issue twice - once with a CBS interviewer on the morning after her March 4 primary wins, and on Friday during a campaign stop in Mississippi.

"I've had people say, 'Well I wish I could vote for both of you,'" she said. "Well, that might be possible some day. But first I need your vote on Tuesday."

Former President Bill Clinton also weighed in on the possibility over the weekend, calling the possible ticket 'unstoppable.'

"I know that she has always been open to it, because she believes that if you can unite the energy and the new people that he's brought in and the people in these vast swaths of small town and rural America that she's carried overwhelmingly, if you had those two things together she thinks it'd be hard to beat," he said in Mississippi Saturday.

And Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a fervent supporter of Clinton's, said on two different occasions he thinks whoever wins the Democratic race should offer the vice presidency to the other.

Gloria Borger, a senior political analyst for CNN, called the comments a Clinton "talking point."

"They're trying to say to people, you know 'wink, wink, if you make Hillary Clinton the nominee, she'll bring Barack Obama along.' It's a talking point, which is that with Hillary you get two for the price of one—if she is at the top of the ticket."

But there's no denying the Clintons recognize the strength Obama would bring to a presidential ticket. Each has attracted a distinct segment of the Democratic electorate: He consistently does well with upscale voters, independents, and African-Americans while she has performed well among women, older voters, and members of the working class.

"Thee Clintons clearly believe that Obama on the ticket would both unify the party and be a draw, particularly to those African-American voters who have been flocking to him. There is clearly some sense it would cement a Democratic victory."

So would Clinton herself accept the No. 2 slot should Obama finish the race on top?

"I don't make any predictions," Borger said.

- CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

UPDATE: Clinton said Monday all the V.P. speculation has taken on a life of its own:

"This thing has really been given a life of its own. A lot of Democrats like us both and have been very hopeful that they wouldn't have to make a choice, but obviously democrats have to make a choice, and I'm looking for to getting the nomination and it's preliminary to talk about whoever might be on whose ticket," she said while campaigning in Pennsylvania. "But I believe I am ready to serve on day one."

soundoff (1,377 Responses)
  1. eddie

    Hillary's prez, Barack's veep and Bill's back in the White House hangin' out with an intern smokin' cigars....... hmmmm

    March 10, 2008 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm |
  2. Butch

    I've liked Obama from the start. My wife has been torn between the two. In this past week or two, Hillary has talked about experience that her and McCain have and Obama has only a speech. That statement slid my wife towards Obama, because of how insulting it was for all the people who support Obama, thanks Hillary. Now Hillary's talkin all this VP stuff. Are you kidding me? Dream ticket...dream on Hillary. If in some miracle you get the nod, my vote is McCain.

    March 10, 2008 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm |
  3. Liban

    Thinking analytically about this...

    1) Clinton in november would never actually choose to have Obama as her running mate. It's all deception to get the support of the blind and undecided. But we know that already ^_^.

    2) Obama would never accept it, even if she offered it. They wouldn't see eye to eye on things, and they don't exactly love each other.

    3) This strategy makes her look like the "nice guy", or the compromiser, and Obama like the "mean guy", by him unwilling to make the same offer to her – he's obviously not into the deception business.

    4) Bottom line: Don't get it twisted. A vote for Clinton is a vote for Clinton.

    March 10, 2008 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm |
  4. beachnan

    I do not want Obama on the ticket at all. I don't think he has the experience to lead, and I think he is too arrogant to believe he should be in second position. If the Democrats ran their primaries, like the Republicans, and had a winner take all, Hillary would have 260 electoral votes to Obamas 190. The caucuses have been a joke, and his winning mostly "red" states also proves very little. When the big election comes, winning the big states with the most electoral votes is all that matters. We need a strong candidate who can win the big states. Hillary is the one has won the big states. Now Obama wants her to split the delegates from Florida when she was the clear winner and both their names were on the ballot. How arrogant?!!!! Clinton is the best choice, and as far as I am concerned, no Obama on the ticket at all, would be just fine.

    March 10, 2008 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm |
  5. Keith

    I got to give it to Hillary. She knows what she is doing, manipulating her way into winning Pennsylvania by having to constantly mention this ridiculous notion of a Clinton-Obama ticket. Will not happen. No way no how. Who knows what her view will be next week? They change faster than her moods. We've seen comical Hillary, misty-eyed Hillary, angry Hillary, crying Hillary, etc. At least Obama's views are consistent, plus he does not resort to "fear" in order to get his point across, case in point, that awful 3 a.m. TV ad with the little girl. Obama '08.

    March 10, 2008 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm |
  6. President-to-be Obama

    Carole in Canada, I don't know what your "USA ELECTION POLLS" source is, but based on your source and your comment one of two things is true:

    1) You read the numbers backward
    2) You are deliberately spreading lies

    I have seen so much of lies and deceit posted on blogs and sent via forwarded emails this year it makes me sick. I really hope people do their own research and don't buy into this crap.

    Carole, we really don't need foreigners trying to undermine our elections; certain candidates are doing enough of that as it is.

    March 10, 2008 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm |
  7. dprichardson

    I heve another comment as for the ny govener how long has the sexual desire be going on let us think at least since god created eve and now we make it our business to decide what is moral and what isn't for our country we should be worry out who is coming in and what we have going out before we worry about how's having sex and who is'nt . at this moment we have more companies leave herwe to go ove seas because of cheaper wages and cheaper isn't always better(toy recall) think what is more important our security and safty or who is sleepy with who?

    March 10, 2008 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm |
  8. Andrea

    I used to like Hillary, then went to neutral and after her recent behavior its turned to DISLIKE! I watched a documentary about a week ago on Obama, I used to be ambivalent towards him, after watching the documentary I am convinced he is exactly what this country needs. All I ask is that he leaves dear old Hillary off his ticket.

    March 10, 2008 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm |
  9. deep_eye

    The clintons have made my flesh crawl since the 90s. By the way, was the rest of the country in suspended animation during those years? Am I the only one who seems to remember the scandals, bimbos, IMPEACHMENT, shady deals? Do we really want to go back there?
    She is showing everyone what you will be experiencing if she is elected, so no crying later if she gets the nomination. Re the argument that Republicans want to face Obama – wake up, morons. They want to face Billary, McCain would pulverize her, they are terrified of Obama because they see a contest they cannot win. Every poll that I have read says something like 47-49% of the voters in America absolutely detest Billary, add in all of the other groups and it's McCain in a cakewalk.
    Obama – '08 – '12 Thank God, somone with honesty, finally.................

    March 10, 2008 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm |
  10. m.procope

    The real news story is that Obama will ask Bill Clinton to be his Vice President.That is the winning strategy,and you can count on it.
    Merv.

    March 10, 2008 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm |
  11. TerryD

    Barack Obama is the most puffed up self-centered person in

    America and he is way to arrogant ; but as we will all remember that

    HIS PRIDE CAME BEFORE HIS GREAT FALL.

    Barack Obama get real, you have won only Red States that

    Republicans will win in a nation election,

    you have won only states where the majority of the voters are black.

    And another thing Barack Obama should remember is that, Hillary R.

    Clinton, the first female president in 2008, only suggested that he may

    become her Vice-President .

    And because of your arrogant response, your learning curve about the

    ways of politics will take you an even longer time to be learn.

    March 10, 2008 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm |
  12. Dot

    Have any of the HRC supporters asked themselves why Rush Limbaugh and Anne Coulter want Hillary to win? Could it possibly be because they knoa that they have ammunition against her? Bill Bradley said as much on PBS. They knoa who donated money to build the Clinton library and they knoa about HRC's brother accepting money to ensure pardons. If yuo think she is any different than McBain, WAYSA?

    March 10, 2008 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm |
  13. Chris in Orlando

    I love how Obama pops junk about Washington... despite racing his whole political career to become one of them.

    He was campaigning for Senate as a state lawmaker. He began campaigning for President before he even held a subcommittee hearing in Washington. OH WAIT, HE NEVER HELD ONE...

    WTH?

    Barack Obama knows something many of us are just starting to figure out: whites will vote for someone who they see as half-white. In the end, Obama has spent his life trying to snub whites, and using his mixed-heritage to advance along the ladder.

    "This kind of gamesmanship, talking about me as VP but not ready for commander-in-chief, that's exactly the kind of doublespeak, double-talk that Washington is very good at," Obama added.

    NEWSFLASH, GENIUS: YOU ARE ONE OF THEM. AND WITHOUT DOUBLE-RACE, YOU'D BE NOBODY.

    March 10, 2008 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm |
  14. Obama Takes the Bait!

    Obama just does not get it.

    March 10, 2008 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm |
  15. Henry

    I am still trying to understand what her EXPERIENCE is. What did she do, what did she accomplish that is so significant ? Someone please tell me. Aside from knowing the layout of the White House, and where the "high priced" bedrooms are that were "rented out" to the highest bidder during the first Clinton presidency, just what is it that she brings on "Day One." Most of those foreign dignitaries that she hung out with are gone. If she did something that we don't know about then maybe it is time that they released those White House papers that may reveal something,..... oh, sorry, the Clinton archivists won't release anything..hmmmm, I wonder why. Furthermore, shame on Geraldine Ferraro who said that Obama is only doing as well as he is doing because he is Black. Shouldn't she be fired, or is being called a "monster" worse.

    March 10, 2008 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm |
  16. sharong

    For PollyAnn:
    If Barack Obama supporters are delusional, gee, there's a whole
    lot of us! Majority rules!
    And for those FEW of you who think he's arrogant, he ain"t got nothing
    on Hillary . . . she invented the word.
    Oh yea, she has 35 years of experience , , , serving tea to foreign dignitaries and going to foreign countries with her husband and
    taking pictures of the place.
    And for America the beautiful: Where did you get your information that
    Barack Obama was involved in radical groups and criminal activiites?
    Most of his adult like was spent in college (he has a Harvard Law degree) and in the politics? Are you saying politics is criminal activity? You spew the same BS as Hillary, no wonder you like her!
    As for Michigan and Florida, let them have a "do over". A lot has changed since January, it may not turn out the way Hillary thinks it would. There votes should be counted. It isn't the voters fault that Hillary's friends decided to break the rules of the DNC. Another sneaky tactic of hers.

    March 10, 2008 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm |
  17. Michael

    1) Hillary is playing the same game that Clinton played for years and was appreciated by African American folks who were misled to believe that Clintons are theri saviors. Clintons love themselves than anything else, not even this country.
    2) When Obama is winning, suggesting him to be the Vice President also tells Hillary's superiority complex.
    3) Hillary thinks that Obama is navive and he miserably needs a VP position that she is ready to offer.

    Shame on the Clintons!

    March 10, 2008 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm |
  18. A Florida

    Go Hillary!!! If she doesn't get in then McCain it is!!! No Obama BS

    March 10, 2008 10:41 pm at 10:41 pm |
  19. Jamal Simmons on CNN

    What are your credentials?

    March 10, 2008 10:41 pm at 10:41 pm |
  20. E1944

    Frequently John Edwards is mentioned as a possible running mate
    on the Democratic ticket for VP. The no experience is a tag hung on
    Senator Obama . John Edwards has one term as a US Senator. It
    was unremarkable to say the least . Not once have I heard anyone questioned his experience when he was running for President
    nor his experience as a possible VP who is a heartbeat away from the
    Presidency. If Hillary is considering Barack as a prospective running
    mate she is likely looking for someone without the high negatives
    she has. Good choice but this is not a win win for Barack and he's
    smart enough not to tarnish his career running as the VP on the
    ticket with Hillary. I'm all for doing the right thing for the Democratic
    Party but he would have to be out of his cotton picking skull to run
    on any ticket with her or he can kiss his political career goodbye.

    His message of change has resonated with our young people and
    we(I'm 63) have done such a lousy job of choosing our elected
    officials me thinks they could not possibly make any worse choices.
    Some of us voice the opinion that they're too young but I think
    just the opposite people. The age advantage( if it is an advantage)
    is not working. Fresh ideas from our young people is not any more
    or less important as our experience. The experience we have does not
    give us any more advantages than the young with their new ideas.
    And since they're paying for this mess our experienced elected officials have us in now we must have a new day. The time has come
    for us to move over and allow the wonderful young people we have in
    this country to fix the mess we have made.

    March 10, 2008 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm |
  21. Roger, AR

    Hillary just knew that a lot of democrats would love to see the dream ticket. I don't understand why Obama is so angry toward Hillary for suggesting it. Hillary didn't say who would be vice-president. She just mentioned that the dream ticket may be possible someday. This really makes Obama look bad to me. Also, Obama's telling Americans that he was opposed to NAFTA and then telling Canada that he didn't really mean what he said is double-speak.

    March 10, 2008 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm |
  22. Zion

    There should be an investigation opened on the Clinton’s and their relationship with the Republican Party. It is truly not clear any more if the Clintons are supporting the Democratic Party or the Republican Party. The way this election has been run by the Clintons suggests that they are willing to sacrifice the stability of the Democratic Party. The day to day comments about the front runner of the Democratic Party, Barack Obama, reverberates a subliminal message that is stereotypical about African Americans in America. This is not helping the Democratic Party and it is helping the Republican by supplying ammunition that will help the republicans win this election. This is an attempt to continue the Clinton-Bush presidency read and beware to make a well educated decision based on the real facts that are not discussed or presented in the main stream media.

    March 10, 2008 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm |
  23. Ishondo

    Well let’s see, supposedly Obama supporters can not write grammatically correct, and Clinton supporters can not add. Did I miss something? When did the term of Office change from every four years to every eight then back to four? (See deb 3/10/2008 6:47pm ET) To speak of experience is like an HR representative only looking at your resume if you have a degree. Guess what, only 24 percent of the American population had received a Bachelor’s degree by 2006. That is a total of 56,068,000 who have an education greater than a Bachelor’s degree, out of 233,194,000 Americans over the age of 15. Now if experience is all that matters then why is unemployment only 4.9 right now instead of 76 percent, because people have natural talents that allow them to do the job. Like any job what matters is who will be able to live up to their responsibilities in that job. Hillary plays politics, which tells me she will play politics in office. We have seen what playing politics has brought us for the last seven years. She also can not control her staff or her husband, which is quite disturbing in itself. What would be best is to pay attention to how a campaign is run to see how the individual in question would run their office. It is easy to see that the Obama campaign is a well oiled machine. Sure he has had a few missteps but nothing like the chaos of the Clinton campaign.

    Last thought to leave you with, Obama has been pulling in independents, young voters, and Republicans. If Clinton ends up on the ticket anywhere you can guarantee that all those voters will either stay home on Election Day or vote for McCain and all the ground the Democrats have gained will be for nothing.

    March 10, 2008 10:44 pm at 10:44 pm |
  24. J. McKinney SW MO

    What scares the heck out of me is all the young people who are voting for Obama because they are caught up in the "superstar frenzy" of it all, but have no idea what this country needs. For instance, the girl who was in the "3 a.m." ad of Clinton's, where she was the little girl sleeping, and she is now 17, and is working feverishly for Obama. Her mother said she went to one of his rallies, and after shaking his hand, she was 'shaking and trembling'. Good God! That kind of stupidity is just what we need deciding who will run this great country. We need Hillary, and the super delegates should decide who to vote for using the reason they were developed. Good heads who understand politics the the problems of the country, deciding who best can run the country, and who can win the election from the Republicans.
    We need Hillary's experience, and I think/hope the superdelegates have the good sense to vote in this way.

    March 10, 2008 10:45 pm at 10:45 pm |
  25. Jallen

    Liars can make figures, but unfortunately for Hillary, FIGURES DON'T LIE. She is not the frontrunner. Her bogus VP offer was just sad. What a pretentious and dispicable move. I think this was even lower than Rush Limbaugh's "republicans vote for Hillary" stunt ( Which has seemingly become a considerable source of votes for her). So spare me any comments that Obama is unable to unite the party, when the only crossover votes she is pulling in are republican votes against Obama that will never vote for her in the general election.

    March 10, 2008 10:45 pm at 10:45 pm |
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