March 11th, 2008
09:50 AM ET
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Does Clinton benefit from so-called 'dream ticket' talk?

 Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

Could Clinton and Obama appear on the same ticket? Clinton appears to be fueling the speculation.

(CNN) - It's an idea that's increasingly getting kicked around, especially by one campaign in particular.

The prospect of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama running on the same ticket has long been the subject of speculation, even before voters started weighing in at the polls earlier this year.

But following Clinton's wins in Texas, Ohio, and Rhode Island last week - a trifecta of victories that essentially salvaged her presidential hopes - the New York senator and her surrogates have repeatedly raised the issue themselves; raised it so often, in fact, that Obama made sure to shoot down the idea at a campaign event in Mississippi Monday.

"I want everybody to be absolutely clear," he said. "I'm not running for vice president. I'm running for president of the United States of America."

"This kind of gamesmanship, talking about me as VP but not ready for commander-in-chief, that's exactly the kind of doublespeak, double-talk that Washington is very good at," Obama added.

Obama isn't the only one who thinks Clinton has something up her sleeve when she raises the issue. CNN Senior Political Correspondent Candy Crowley says the Illinois senator's campaign clearly recognizes its rival benefits from the increased speculation of a joint ticket.

"They understand that this is a way for the Clinton campaign to play some politics here," Crowley said. "If you suggest to voters, who might have some question about Barack Obama's experience, but they like his message of hope and change, that they could have both, and that maybe he could get eight years of seasoning, that's the suggestion here."(Watch Candy Crowley's analysis of Dem dream ticket talk)

Obama's comments Monday followed a week in which the prospect of a joint ticket was pushed by Clinton or a member of her campaign on at least four different occasions. Clinton herself raised the issue twice - once with a CBS interviewer on the morning after her March 4 primary wins, and on Friday during a campaign stop in Mississippi.

"I've had people say, 'Well I wish I could vote for both of you,'" she said. "Well, that might be possible some day. But first I need your vote on Tuesday."

Former President Bill Clinton also weighed in on the possibility over the weekend, calling the possible ticket 'unstoppable.'

"I know that she has always been open to it, because she believes that if you can unite the energy and the new people that he's brought in and the people in these vast swaths of small town and rural America that she's carried overwhelmingly, if you had those two things together she thinks it'd be hard to beat," he said in Mississippi Saturday.

And Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a fervent supporter of Clinton's, said on two different occasions he thinks whoever wins the Democratic race should offer the vice presidency to the other.

Gloria Borger, a senior political analyst for CNN, called the comments a Clinton "talking point."

"They're trying to say to people, you know 'wink, wink, if you make Hillary Clinton the nominee, she'll bring Barack Obama along.' It's a talking point, which is that with Hillary you get two for the price of one—if she is at the top of the ticket."

But there's no denying the Clintons recognize the strength Obama would bring to a presidential ticket. Each has attracted a distinct segment of the Democratic electorate: He consistently does well with upscale voters, independents, and African-Americans while she has performed well among women, older voters, and members of the working class.

"Thee Clintons clearly believe that Obama on the ticket would both unify the party and be a draw, particularly to those African-American voters who have been flocking to him. There is clearly some sense it would cement a Democratic victory."

So would Clinton herself accept the No. 2 slot should Obama finish the race on top?

"I don't make any predictions," Borger said.

- CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

UPDATE: Clinton said Monday all the V.P. speculation has taken on a life of its own:

"This thing has really been given a life of its own. A lot of Democrats like us both and have been very hopeful that they wouldn't have to make a choice, but obviously democrats have to make a choice, and I'm looking for to getting the nomination and it's preliminary to talk about whoever might be on whose ticket," she said while campaigning in Pennsylvania. "But I believe I am ready to serve on day one."

soundoff (1,377 Responses)
  1. Judith

    America the Beautiful, maybe you were sleeping but it was, Hillary's campaign mamnaging skills the made her run out of money and have to loan her campaign 5 million bucks, NOT OBAMA'S campaign....

    The worse thing Obama could do is share a ticket with Hillary Clinton...Thank God he set the record straight.... And he is ahead in all ways above hillary, she should drop out not him...
    I would love to see an Obama/ Edwards ticket

    GO OBAMA

    March 11, 2008 02:31 am at 2:31 am |
  2. hjohnconroe

    Clinton is a joke,a tottal jerk

    March 11, 2008 02:33 am at 2:33 am |
  3. Hillaryisajoke

    Well, a least with Elliot Spitzer proving that he is among the highest order of hypocrites who claim to support the rights of women while actually trampling on them, Bill and Hillary have someone who they can commiserate with. Billary + Spitzer = the worst thing to happen to women in 100 years yet Tina Fey thinks they represent a new feminist ideology. Behold the power of delusion on the far left.

    March 11, 2008 02:34 am at 2:34 am |
  4. Richard

    Obama is leading in every statistical category that is important, even with a revote in FL and MI Clinton will not be able to catch up. Unless a miracle saves clintons campaign the only way she will become the Democratic nominee is through overriding the popular vote. With that said I don't see a debate but people vested in a candidate willing to chop down the opponent to try and find a reason a avenue for her to become nominated. Regardless of your beliefs please believe in democracy.

    March 11, 2008 02:34 am at 2:34 am |
  5. Mike in Oahu

    Opportunistic, caniving, forked tongue, shrewd...

    The Clintons will do anything and stoop to whatever tactics they can in order to get what they want. Before they start offering "dream tickets" there needs to be a "reality check"! Who in their right minds would want to work for (or with) that shrew. She's got more balls than spalding.

    If the Dems go for Hillary then I'm going for McCain.

    March 11, 2008 02:37 am at 2:37 am |
  6. Vote Obama

    I think that Hillary Clinton is desperate for votes, and she's trying to get voters attention on Obama being her VP to try to change voters mind about Obama and the changes he's trying to bring to this country, which it is not going to work. The politics that Hillary is talking about, are suggestions her husband made in 1990s. Times have changed, so we need that same change in the white house. OBAMA DOES NOT NEED HILLARY AS HIS VP, because she doesn't stand for change.

    I knew that something was going to go wrong during the primary, so I decided that if Hillary win the nomination, I will never vote again. What happened in FL and MI is a disgrace of what is to come of this voting procces now and in the furture , and the media doesn't make anything different than what was done in those two states. You took Hillary Clinton out the spot light, and decided to put everything negative about Obama on, trying to discredit his name, so in a-way you have been a little bias.

    WE WANT NEW, AND WE WANT CHANGE!!!
    DO THE RIGHT THING!!!

    VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA

    March 11, 2008 02:38 am at 2:38 am |
  7. bobbynoodle

    Rodhams just lost another super deligate in her freind Eloit spitzer HA HA HA HA HA

    March 11, 2008 02:46 am at 2:46 am |
  8. bobbynoodle

    take her back,new york,please,you cant do better then this

    March 11, 2008 02:49 am at 2:49 am |
  9. Yves larochelle

    It is pure RACISM in my opinion. They think that it's not normal for America to have Obama as a President because he is not a member of the traditional select clan. Bill is also seeking a third mandate and Hillary thinks it is God given that she will be President.
    Would it be possible to buy the nomination, some would be attempted to offer more than a VP role.

    March 11, 2008 02:55 am at 2:55 am |
  10. bobbynoodle

    Very glad to see obam sling some mud in her face,Ive had it with her and her tactics

    March 11, 2008 03:00 am at 3:00 am |
  11. Robin Wagner from ct

    Hillary Clinton , Just up to her same old same old. Tricks and depictions . Trying to make it out that she is in the lead . Her so called BIG states has been blue anyways , Barack Obama is right to stand up to this point . He has a lead in delegates and also won more states 29 out of 40 mean Hillary only won 11 . And he also has the poplar vote. And won 12 in a row . She been saying all along he has no experience .
    But yet he can be her VP.? huh . first of all the number 2 is telling American people whom can be her running mate. If that was not bad enough the person she said had no experience . HUH ....
    So ask your self as voter . Why is it she been lieing and playing these dirty tricks. And why is it she more BUSH like than McCain. We already have this in Whitehouse already.
    Lies and Bully and hide thing from American people . And using fear to get what they want . In the end you'll be asking yourself like you do now with Bush why did I vote for him. Same with Hillary . WHY did I vote for her ,
    AND BILL .?

    March 11, 2008 03:01 am at 3:01 am |
  12. Danny P, Bangkok, Thailand

    It's like, "Since I'm losing, why don't you be VP so I can be President?" What a bright idea! But only if you were having a 1st grade conversation in the playground at recess. Hill didn't have the experience to take care of Bill when he was the president, what makes you think she can take care of America, or the rest of the world for that matter.

    Every president learns in office–unless they' took "US President 101" in college. The major difference is that some presidents learn fast while others come to the end of their term without getting it!

    March 11, 2008 03:02 am at 3:02 am |
  13. paycheck

    Keep it going obama,keep throwing mud on her face,ive had it with that witch

    March 11, 2008 03:02 am at 3:02 am |
  14. bobby

    New York,do us all a favor and take her back,she worthless

    March 11, 2008 03:05 am at 3:05 am |
  15. JDB

    As every survery has shown, Obama carries a general election at higher percentages than Clinton – both in Electoral College math and in Popular Vote. Seriously, what good is a Clinton candidacy if she can only carry the "blue" states – and not even carry the states that Kerry did? Nobody divides like a Clinton.

    March 11, 2008 03:06 am at 3:06 am |
  16. Craven

    The thought of either one of the Democratic nominees becoming president makes me cringe, but for the Republicans it's a win-win situation.

    March 11, 2008 03:09 am at 3:09 am |
  17. Jane

    Wow, Hillary is really desperate. She is going to get creamed on Tuesday in Mississippi by double digits, and I am eager to see it happen.

    It's time for a change for the country.

    Obama '08

    March 11, 2008 03:09 am at 3:09 am |
  18. Barb Townsend

    Perhaps I am judging Senator Clinton too harshly but everything she has done lately in the way of an attack really rubs me the wrong way.
    Senator Obama is ahead in the race and yet she is promoting the idea of him being her VP -which may have scored her a few points for appearing to be the front runner. Positioning.

    There is a backlash to this kind of behavior though.

    March 11, 2008 03:10 am at 3:10 am |
  19. Anvar

    Probably, Clinotons palnned this proposal before campaign started and now they forgot that they are not front-runners!!!

    March 11, 2008 03:10 am at 3:10 am |
  20. david

    Hillary is shameless playing for a tie, now that there is no way of her securing the nomination through primary voting. does she think she can persuade Obama supporters to stay home and let her steal thing thing with the promise that he'll be on the ticket? has she realized that he brings new voters into the Democratic fold in the general election, voters she cannot herself attract? is she willing to drag the party through a damaging convention deadlock to force obama to put her on the ticket as his running mate, which he would otherwise have no incentive to do? all of this speaks very poorly of her.

    March 11, 2008 03:11 am at 3:11 am |
  21. Billy

    I feel so sorry for Bill clinton,it must be a real nightmare to be married to this women.

    March 11, 2008 03:11 am at 3:11 am |
  22. JH

    billary is great lier family in AMERICAN HISTORY watch movie "PRIMARY COLOR " make u puke

    March 11, 2008 03:15 am at 3:15 am |
  23. Barb Townsend

    BTW if Senator Clinton wins through hoodwinkery and chicanery in FL TX and MI then I will be a McCainocrat just for the pure cussedness of it.

    With Obama i am votong for something. Don't take away that dream from millions of people through trickery and lies. Don't do that.

    March 11, 2008 03:20 am at 3:20 am |
  24. Gerard van Beusekom-Fretz

    If you really want someone with experience. One that even is willing to knock at YOUR door at 3 a.m. Well I know someone in Havana who desperately needs a new job.
    However if you bother about the quality of one's experience...

    March 11, 2008 03:20 am at 3:20 am |
  25. Robert M. Reidy N.Y.

    What egotistical arrogant self aggrandizing crap !!!

    Just how stupid do these Clinton's think we are ?

    This deceitful, completely disingenuous political ploy points up
    the kind of old worn out politics that we the people are down right sick to
    death of.

    Out with the old and in with the NEW !

    VOTE OBAMA
    VOTE OBAMA
    VOTE OBAMA

    March 11, 2008 03:21 am at 3:21 am |
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