March 13th, 2008
05:10 PM ET
14 years ago

Florida's Dems reject mail-in primary plan

TALLAHASSEE, Florida (CNN) - Florida's Democrats in Congress rejected Thursday a plan for a combined mail-in and in-person primary election to let the state regain its 210 national convention delegates.

The plan, floated earlier by state party officials, would have set the combination vote for June 3 in an effort to replace delegates lost when Florida moved its primary ahead of the approved time frame.

"After reviewing the party's proposal and individually discussing this idea with state and local leaders and elections experts, we do not believe that this is a realistic option at this time and remain opposed to a mail-in ballot election or any new primary election in Florida of any kind," read a statement released Thursday afternoon by the states Democratic congressional delegation.

Under the state party's plan, fund-raising and public comment would begin immediately.

"The plan would be inclusive of all Democratic voters," according to a memo accompanying the draft plan that was sent Wednesday night to party leaders, including Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, the party's candidates for the presidential nomination.

Any plan would need the blessings of the DNC and the Clinton and Obama campaigns.

"We really believe that all Floridians deserve to be heard," said state party Chairwoman Karen Thurman, but "if this is not what the people of Florida and our presidential candidates want, then we're not going to do it."

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soundoff (139 Responses)
  1. augustcandi

    Finally...lets move on now

    March 13, 2008 06:15 pm at 6:15 pm |
  2. Obamadefecter

    What in the world is going on because the report and those interviewed don`t say what they are proposing nor do they say what`s at issue or wrong with a mail-in and primary. As a Floridian, I have defected from a supporter of Obama to Hillary because I can see that Obama does not want FL&MI to have a say. He`s doing his double-talk again with saying he`s gonna do whatever the DNC want then say he`s `concerned`about a mail-in when he sponsored a mail-in vote bill. Don`t add another flip-flop to NAFTA, Iraq war withdrawal, and campaign finance Obama.

    The will of the people in FL&MI better be heard or the nomination will be a fraud. Voters didn`t change any dates. The excuse is that he wasn`t on the ballot in MI and didn`t campaign in FL-neither did anyone else-Well here`s his chance if he proclaims that it would of made a difference, so stop the stalling because the demographics don`t favor you. You don`t hear others say well Mississippi is all black so let`s stop their votes from counting. I will vote McCain if there is no re-vote in FL&MI, as will all those I`ve spoken to in FL, and make it a
    personal crusade to have all in MI&FL to do the same in November.

    March 13, 2008 06:15 pm at 6:15 pm |
  3. Michael, North Carolina





    March 13, 2008 06:16 pm at 6:16 pm |
  4. Reality check #1

    They have already voted, give them their delegates.

    March 13, 2008 06:16 pm at 6:16 pm |
  5. Eith

    Just hold regular primaries in both Florida and Michigan. Where there are no machines available now, give the people paper ballots. Where there are machines, use them.

    Funding the revotes? Take a loan for the DNC for now. Paying out that debt can always be sorted out later. The important thing now is, to get the voters to hold their votes in a manner that fits the party and its voters. What is the fuss about paying for the revotes? Money can always be raised later, on a loan now.

    I am sure there are institutions out there, committed to making a profit on a penny of a monetary loan to, say, the DNC.

    March 13, 2008 06:16 pm at 6:16 pm |
  6. Nancy A Frank

    Seat the delegates as the votes were cast. Respect the voter's wishes. The exclusion rule is stupid and only harming the election process and the voters of Florida.

    Count the votes as cast and forget the stupid rules that mean nothing.

    March 13, 2008 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
  7. Chanda- Cincinnati

    Oh. Wow.. someone other than the Obama camp thinks a mail in ballot would not work!! When he said it yesterday everybody was reay to jump all over him. Now the dems of the very state in question agree that a mail in ballot simply would not be feasable. Let the Florida delegates be seated base on January's vote. Clinton would still be behind in delegates, and she can say she won another BIG state all she wants. Anyone with half a brain knows Florida will go red in November. Michigan needs to re-vote. If my only two choices were Clinton and Kunich, I would have picked her too!

    March 13, 2008 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
  8. abbey

    Why are we changing the rules of the game just because the clinton are involved, if the clinton are leading the total delegates will they asked for revote in Florida NO. So if clinton becomes the president is she going to be changing the America Laws and rules along the way if it does not favour her? NO. The rules are there to be obeyed.
    Moreover, since Clinton said MaCcain will be a better Commander in chief it is better for her to cross carpet to the Republican and be the running mate to MacCain and stop destroying the democrat

    March 13, 2008 06:19 pm at 6:19 pm |
  9. EnoughAlready

    I agree with you "wolf"

    Hillary will do anything, I mean anything to win. She knew in advance about the rules. Now have the nerves to say it's only fair for a do over. Fair- when Obama or Edwards was not campaigning in fla.

    Just splits the delgates between the two... and I bet Hillary still would disagree because she will still be behind.

    March 13, 2008 06:21 pm at 6:21 pm |
  10. Roxy

    And then.......Florida and Michigan go to McCain in November!

    March 13, 2008 06:21 pm at 6:21 pm |
  11. Cheryl

    Does anyone see the irony and utter absurdity of Florida/Michigan re-do's? Re-voting rewards these two states with the exact influence they were trying to obtain when they held early primaries against the party rules.

    A revote is nothing more than a typical liberal response of being victimized instead of taking responsibility for one's actions. As distasteful as it may be to the voters of Florida and Michigan, the only right the thing to do is to adhere to the rules when they were written. Then there will be no questions about the consequences should this issue arise again.

    March 13, 2008 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  12. Erik

    Why do taxpayers continue to allow their public funds to support administration of private club elections? Political parties are private organizations with no standing in our constitutional documents. Would congressmen be involved in a revote plan for the Grand Whomever of the Elks Lodge?

    March 13, 2008 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  13. Lee

    Split the delegates in half or don't count them at all ! That's the only fair way to do it since 'someone srewed up "

    March 13, 2008 06:23 pm at 6:23 pm |
  14. Superdelegate

    Stop disenfranchising the whites. You're all racist! Poor whites, they have it so hard.

    March 13, 2008 06:23 pm at 6:23 pm |
  15. karen


    March 13, 2008 06:23 pm at 6:23 pm |
  16. Gary in Toronto

    Wow. So in effect they are saying seat our delegates as is regardless of the fact that we broke the rules and a lot of people didn't vote because they were told it didn't count?

    I guess disenfranchisement is OK so long as your candidate wins.

    Hillary and her supporters really have no shame.

    March 13, 2008 06:24 pm at 6:24 pm |
  17. Joseph Johnson

    This does not mean that it is over by any means. It will be determined by a judge, unless they find a way to count the votes.

    March 13, 2008 06:25 pm at 6:25 pm |
  18. disillusioned democratic voter

    It will be absolutely disgusting if the Florida voters are not heard. the voters should not be penalized because of the DNCs disagreement with the party leaders in Florida. All parties involved need to come up with a solution that supports the will of the people. You cannot just divide the delegates because essentially you would be saying they do not count. If Barack and Hillary can raise sooooooo much money why don't they kick-in some $$ for another primary. As much as I hate to say it, if a revote doesn't happen in Florida the Republicans can count on my vote.

    March 13, 2008 06:26 pm at 6:26 pm |
  19. Rob, Arvada, CO

    Amen to that! MI and FL are holes in the Primary quilt. It is better to leave them out and hope they decide to play fair in November.

    March 13, 2008 06:26 pm at 6:26 pm |
  20. Mike B Florida

    It seems to me that the politicians (and the media) have lost their collective minds. Just how difficult a decision is it – spend millions of a potentially flawed and unfair re-do or get the whole thing over and done with by seating the delegates on a 50:50 basis. Isn't the country heading into a serious recession or is wasting money on political egos immune from that fact?

    March 13, 2008 06:26 pm at 6:26 pm |
  21. Goran Bajramovic

    If my vote in Florida doesn't count towards primary I will not vote in general election. And I'm not the only one. If DNC doesn't want our votes, they won't have them.

    March 13, 2008 06:28 pm at 6:28 pm |
  22. Kenneth

    Florida needs to get with the program and stop causing problems. First 2000, and look now. No one from Florida should be mad if they are left out this time. They need to learn how to follow rules and learn how to count.

    March 13, 2008 06:29 pm at 6:29 pm |
  23. Paul


    March 13, 2008 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  24. rk

    Look this is not some freakin game show people. This is about electing the next President of the US. Get real.
    This is a no brainer... REVOTE ABSOLUTELY NEEDED!!!!!!!!

    March 13, 2008 06:30 pm at 6:30 pm |
  25. Josh Canada

    I am an avid Obama fan, and I do think that Florida and Michagan need to be represented.

    I think the best way to do this is have a caucus and seat only half the original amount of delegates.

    Now I know all the Clinton supporters are gonna say "Caucuses favour Obama"

    Not true. If people in Florida care about their delegates being seated as much as they claim to, they'll vote in the caucus no matter who they support.

    March 13, 2008 06:31 pm at 6:31 pm |
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