New Michigan plan proposed
[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/03/31/art.stupak.gi.jpg caption=" Stupak is proposing a new plan to seat Michigan's delegates. "]WASHINGTON (CNN) - Michigan Rep. Bart Stupak proposed a new plan on Monday to seat his state's Democratic delegates to the party's convention in August, factoring in both the results of the state's January primary and the total popular vote of all the primary contests nationwide.
In a proposal sent to Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, Stupak proposed allotting 83 of Michigan's pledged delegates based on the January vote, while the state's remaining pledged delegates and superdelegates - 73 total - are to be awarded based on the nationwide vote.
The DNC stripped Michigan of its convention delegates late last year after the state moved up its primary to January 15. Under pressure from other early-voting states, most of the Democratic presidential candidates removed their name from the ballot there.
But Clinton opted to keep her name on the ballot and ultimately received 55 percent of the vote, compared to the 40 percent of the vote that went for "uncommitted."
Under Stupak's proposal, Clinton would receive 47 delegates based on her vote total, while Obama would be awarded 36 delegates based on that "uncommitted" result; the rest would be divided according to the nationwide popular vote total after all the primaries are completed.
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They have to come to an agreement. If not, Mc Cain '08
I think the delegates should be awarded to no one . The state made the wrong choice in holding their elections early so they shouldn't count. Clinton has lost this race and should endorse Obama. This is not good for the party and for young voters like myself. I dont like or agree with McCain on any issue , but he is in the presidental race by his lonesome. She needs to realize that this is not her time. And her husband time has came and went.
This plan is no good. The state forfeited it's rights to have their delegates counted by breaking party rules. Counting them despite following the rules means the rules don't matter. Tell those who feel disenfranchised to remind their politicians during reelection how you feel, by voting them OUT!!!
Here's another idea
Why don't we play fair.
Why don't we stop bashing Hillary and stop praising Obama.
Why don't we let the voters decide.
Why don't we keep the celebrities, the Kennedys, the Kerrys, the DNC and the media out of it.
But Obama's name was not even on the ballot in Michigan! Are we in a banana republic?
The people votes should not be ignored. Hence include FL and MI vote into popular vote while dividing the delegates
If Hillary would just go ahead and drop out then there would be no need for this mess. She still would not win even with the delegates.
Rep. Stupak is responsible for early voting knowing this would happen, it's a little late for a solution.
Hey, Hillary: If not counting Michigan now is disenfranchisement, why didn't you argue that point last year before you agreed to bide by the rules. Could it be that you are "using" Michigan and Florida to try to steal the nomination from Obama?
No deal. OBAMA's NAME WAS NOT ON THE BALLOT!! Because the DNC asked them to withdraw their names. Clinton the cheat did not. You cannot award delegates based on this election. Period.
MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA MADE THEIR DECISION, THE DNC, MADE
THEIRS, AND IT SHOULD STAND. YOU BRAKE THE RULES YOU PAY.
NO NO NO!!! You understood what would happen if you moved up your primary and you did it anyway!! You don't deserve to have your delegates seated at the convention, and I will leave the democratic party if you get seated. Some people have to have some morals and stand by whats right in this country. If you do something wrong you should be punished! Governors who have sex with prostitutes need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law! Mayors who have relationships with their chiefs of staff, need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law! We need a change in the way this country works. Thats why we need Barack Obama!
Obama Richardson 08!!!!
That is not a fair proposal.
They need to come up with something that has nothing to do with the original 'unfair' election. That one should not count for anything at all.
All negotiations for a revote should hinge upon the resignation of the state officials who were responsible for moving the primaries up. When are we going to hold those officials responsible. They led their constituency poorly and should not get off scott free.
Let their votes count!!!!!
“There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama.”
And as far as Obama’s claim that he apparently was a result of his parents’ union at the 1965 march: That, too, isn’t possible — without a time machine, Dobbs says. Obama was born in 1961. One of many falsehoods from obama.
Democracy at work.. And we can trust these clowns to run the country. I don't think so. McCain for President. Any Republican for President.
50:50 is the ONLY fair way to seat these voters! Otherwise you are openly sanctioning disingenuous political practices which encourages them.
What is wrong with 50:50?
The reason the Michigan legislature did not vote on a re-vote was because two Obama supporters derailed the proposal. That is a fact.
Obama does not want a re-vote now that the cat is out of the bag.
I am an Obama supporter but I wouldn't give you 25 cents for this guys endorsement. It was all he could do to stay interested in the race long enough to even have an opinion. I doubt that he even voted.
Seat the delegates in such a way that it doesn't favor one candidate too much as compared to the other but STRIP THE STATE OF SUPERDELEGATES. They are the people responsible for this mess.
It seems to me that rules are rules and that one should follows those rules. (that's what I teach my kids)......So did everyone know those rules before the primarys starter? Oh, I forgot Hillary thought she would be winning and didn't care before votes were cast.
It would be better to divide them and let them be a part of the process than nothing.
BARACK'S NAME WAS NOT ON THE BALLOT.
These people are IDIOTS !!!!! What is in the Michigan water? If anybody should be penalized it should be Hillary for "pretending" that the votes counted.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN FAIR?
So from what I figure with the current poll now saying Obama has a 10pt lead nationally he will get 80 and she will get 76. I would go for that or something similar, even dead even would be fair.. something needs to be done or nothing at all. Tired of hearing Hillary whine about it.
Are you interested in seating delegates? Then it's a clear 50:50 split. Are you interested in pandering to the Clintons? Are you interested in rewarding bad behavior? Why do that, too? Seating delegates is enough. 50:50 is fair.