April 21st, 2008
07:50 PM ET
14 years ago

Bill Clinton: Hillary would be winning with GOP rules

PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania (CNN) – Joining wife Hillary Clinton at a campaign rally on the eve of the Pennsylvania primary, former President Bill Clinton argued that if Democratic candidates were awarded delegates the same way as Republicans, his wife would be beating Barack Obama in the race for the 2,025 delegates needed to secure the Democratic nomination.

“If we were under the Republican system, which is more like the Electoral College, she'd have a 300 delegate lead here,” Clinton told the Washington Post. “I mean, Senator McCain is already the nominee because they chose a system to produce that result, and we don't have a nominee here, because the Democrats chose a system that prevents that result.”

Overall, Obama leads Hillary Clinton by 144 delegates - 1,648 to 1,504 - according to CNN's delegate count. However, Clinton still has 24 more superdelegates than Obama, leading 254 to 230.

Many states in the Republican primary race award delegates on a winner-take-all basis, whereas every state on the Democratic side uses a proportional system.

The former president has been shuttling back and forth between eastern and western Pennsylvania over the past few days, shoring up votes for his wife in this crucial primary contest.

He takes Obama to task for several of his recent television ads in Pennsylvania, calling a recent one – in which he says Sen. Clinton’s health care plan would force people to pay for health care plans they can't afford – “truly hilarious” and "bull.”

Hillary Clinton has maintained a consistent lead over Obama in Pennsylvania polls and needs to win Tuesday night to silence calls for her to drop out of the race.

At the end of each speech, the former president addresses those calls, introducing supporters to “Clinton’s rules of politics:" "If somebody tells you you ought to quit, it’s because they’re afraid you won’t, and there’s no quit in her ... and I’ll tell you something else, if somebody tells you you can’t win, it’s because you know you can.”

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  1. Meghan

    Hillary has said that the elections are like the Superbowl. So where does that leave us now. Hmm, Hillary's like oh but if all my yards gained on certain parts of the field could count as more- I would be winning. And how is she the underdog now?! During the game when the underdog pulls ahead they are still the underdog. And in this race the underdog WILL win.

    April 22, 2008 12:39 am at 12:39 am |
  2. The Real Hillary Clinton

    By Dick Morris And Eileen McGann

    Published in the New York Post on April 16, 2008.

    People have always accused Bill Clinton of wanting to be all things to all people. Now he and Hillary have found a way to do it in her campaign.

    The former first couple has a carefully choreographed pas-de-deux in which they take opposite sides of an issue, depending on Hillary’s political needs of the moment.

    Full Story

    April 22, 2008 12:39 am at 12:39 am |
  3. NickSanDiego

    Yes Bill and if the outfield in Baseball were only 30 feet from home plate EVRYONE would hit a HOMERUN TOO!

    How many Hillary people just twitched when they read his statement. How does it feel to worship such a man? A sad desperate pitiful man. That is what he has become.

    April 22, 2008 12:40 am at 12:40 am |
  4. The Real Hillary Clinton

    By Dick Morris

    Nothing is as hypocritical as Hillary’s attempts to persuade us that she always opposed NAFTA. Her official schedule includes several meetings to back ratification and participants recall that she was strongly in favor. There is nothing in her memoirs to suggest anything other than strong support for one of her husband’s major achievements. And, in our personal phone conversations throughout 1993 we discussed the need to get NAFTA approved to boost Bill’s reputation for effectiveness, somewhat tattered after the defeat of his stimulus package.

    Full Story

    April 22, 2008 12:40 am at 12:40 am |
  5. Mark

    Speaking about democratic superdelegates, some of them reason that they should follow their electorate. Some of the have even gone as far as defecting from Hillary to Obama on these grounds.

    I wonder what would the superdelegate count in this race be if ALL superdelegates were consistently sticking in their decision between Hillary/Barack to their electorate choices? Like if Ted Kennedy, Bill Richardson, and Bob Casey honored their voters' choice and threw their support behind Clinton?

    Has anybody made such a estimate?

    April 22, 2008 12:42 am at 12:42 am |
  6. Jeff

    So, Republican = Good (as demonstrated by the last ~8 years). Thanks Bill, I was having trouble with that one. You couldn't stand by your wife when you were president, why bother to stand by her sunk ship now?

    April 22, 2008 12:42 am at 12:42 am |
  7. Scott

    When will these people just go away... that is when will the Clintons go away?

    April 22, 2008 12:44 am at 12:44 am |
  8. Brad IL.

    All Hillary supporters should donate more money so Hillary can pay off super-delegates . Barack Obama has been buying the vote's from the super-delegates, Patrick Murphy for one. How low must he stoop too win. Bill tell Hillary to hire someone from Chicago Political Machine. They wrote the book on bribery. Obama is good at this. Look at his land deal and his house. Look how he got into office, bribes, lawyers and alot of the Race card .

    April 22, 2008 12:45 am at 12:45 am |
  9. RG(TX)

    For all the Obama supporters yall will be very disapionted when he looses. Don't yall get it,He's just getting a little fame until the end when he looses to Hillary or Mc Cain cause he will not beat one or the other.It all comes down to a fair chance,thats why he's doing good for now lol... We need a woman like Hillary thats been in the front seat before.She knows her stuff & will get this country back the way it was before Bush took office.Ask yourself,whould you get in a car with a un experiance person who never drove before? Or would you get into a car with a experiance peron?Also get off the Lewinsky thing.What ever happen between them doesn't have anything wrong with how Bill ran this country.He still ran it well.It sounds like to me that people are mad cause they didn't get a something from Lewinsky like he did or didnt get licked.Get over it.I know he left office with a smile which yall didn't lol..Either way he got the job done twice lol.. & one last thing he don't need anyone else to forgive him,as long as his wife does is what matters.So when Obama looses, just say you was warned.

    Clintons 08

    April 22, 2008 12:45 am at 12:45 am |
  10. Will

    Sweet mother of mercy, how many different BS ways can the Clintons invent to try to prop up the fiction that Hillary should really be winning?

    April 22, 2008 12:45 am at 12:45 am |
  11. Mary

    Funny that Hillary & Bill are admitting that they can’t win.

    Even funnier is how they always try to change the rules and the goal posts.

    That goes to show you that the only CHANGE Hillary can give America is to try to change the rules in the middle of the game.

    Sorry Hillary but America wants REAL CHANGE!

    April 22, 2008 12:45 am at 12:45 am |
  12. John

    Why is it that President Bill Clinton is campaining at one end of the state while his wife is at the other end, and then they complain that Mr. Obama is out spending her on advert's. Maybe if they travelled together as husband and wife they would have the extra cash to spend on advertizing. Maybe she does not want him near her? Or maybe he thinks he is running for office again? Either way two people campaining against one who is the underdog?

    April 22, 2008 12:48 am at 12:48 am |
  13. Cdanders

    So Jim, all those states (like Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, Virginia, Nebraska, .....the list goes on and on) that voted for Obama but mostly vote Republican in the General Election, shouldn't count in the Democratic Primary contest? So the millions of people who cast their ballots, many die-hard Democrats, should just be neglected because their state more often than not votes for a Republican candidate. Well, shoot, John McCain won New York and California and they overwhelmingly vote for a Democrat so sounds like Romney or Huckabee have a new argument to make. Oh wait, they actually know how to lose graciously. Grrr, I wish Penn would just end this nonsense....but looks like we'll be waiting for NC.

    April 22, 2008 12:49 am at 12:49 am |
  14. Ruth in Philadelphia

    Yes, isn't it silly how the Obamites get excited about their candidate's winning the Dem primaries ( a nice thing, no doubt) in states with very few Electoral College votes and/or states with big Republican majorities that will go GOP in November? Not very realistic, is it?

    Yea, but let's go rah rah rah over Obama's 30-14 majority of states won and demand that the candidate who won the states that the Dems can and must win.

    April 22, 2008 12:49 am at 12:49 am |
  15. Miri

    Because I am a patriotic American if HRC wins the Democratic nomination, I will campaign and vote for McCain.
    Here's why.
    The Clintons have taken $15 million (w/ ano 20 on account) from the Emir of Dubai. This occured while HRC sat in the US Senate. Dubai is a repressive antiSemitic anti Israel oligarchy and no friend of the US. Nor does the Emir give away money out of the goodness of his heart. He owns the Clintons. This is not influence peddling. It's treason.

    April 22, 2008 12:49 am at 12:49 am |
  16. Chris -- Cleveland

    I really think she IS in the wrong party, except she's burned too many bridges to admit it. And the Republicans would never have even her brand of BS on their side.

    April 22, 2008 12:49 am at 12:49 am |
  17. Tim Weiss

    Well Mr. President, the 2000 presidential election showed us that the electoral college isn't the best system. Barack Obama has received MORE votes than Hillary Clinton, so the delegate math shows that accurately. Even with Michigan AND Hillary Clinton's Florida votes counted, Barack Obama still leads. So the system the way it is now is pretty accurate and representative of the electorate.

    April 22, 2008 12:53 am at 12:53 am |
  18. Loyalty to the Party

    No one really cares about the people.....you all think its a game...if our pick doesnt make it...we'd rather vote for McCain because we aren't real democrats...we're use to not sticking to our party because we have no idea what it means to be a liberal..you all are sheep. I don't care who gets in..I'm voting for the democrat...even if it is Hillary..wake up...it;s called loyalty to the party.

    April 22, 2008 12:54 am at 12:54 am |
  19. Ezuma

    PA the big decision is in you hand, vote for Hillary. Bin "L" is watching, Hamas is also watching and remember Iran with "NUKE". Think about jobs, healthcare etc. We have a lot at stake and we can't afford Mr. Obama the Orator in the white house. PA make sure Hillary wins with a big bang.

    April 22, 2008 12:55 am at 12:55 am |
  20. john m

    Bill is right
    on the money.

    Remeber the REAL election is the general election;
    the general election is the winner-take-all system;
    the winner-take-all system delivers Hillary Clinton as the clear winner
    over Obama.

    We need to win the REAL election - not a "practice" election as in
    the Democratic primaries.

    April 22, 2008 12:55 am at 12:55 am |
  21. Texican

    I love it when the Obama and Clinton supporters use such intelligent arguments to substantiate their support for their candidates. You can tell the Obama ones by their lack of respect for anyone who is not in favor of Obama. You can tell the Clinton ones by how they focus on
    Obama's ties to Rev. Wright and his whining when challenged by the media.

    This is a fight between the left wing and the extreme left wing of the Democratic party. Whomever wins will lose in November.

    The major loser is the Party itself. It took 40 years for the McGovern peaceniks to take over, but now they are in control.

    April 22, 2008 12:56 am at 12:56 am |
  22. Al-Houston


    April 22, 2008 12:59 am at 12:59 am |
  23. BMjersey

    I absolutely agree. I believe Bill is just saying this because Hillary is losing. If it were the other way around (Hillary leading in delegates), then he wouldn't be saying a word. Besides, the way the democrats distribute the delegates is done a lot more fairly. For instance, if one candidate wins a state by let's say 52 percent, why should they automatically win the delegates of the other 48 percent who voted against them? Bill is just digging for anything at this point to stop Obama's delegate count from rising, which most likely will not happen.

    April 22, 2008 01:00 am at 1:00 am |
  24. Jim

    Here's the MATH!!! Do Democrats really want to lose AGAIN?

    McCain vs. Obama:
    McCain – AK, ID, MT, UT, CO, WY, SD, ND, TX, OK, KS, NE, AL, LA, IN, AR and TN.
    Leaning McCain – MO, IN, KY, CT, ME, NH, KY, VA, NC, GA, MS, FL, PA, NJ, OH, OR and WV.
    Leaning Obama – WI, RI, MD, MI, IA, NM, SC and CA.
    Obama – IL, NY, MA, WA, VT, DE, HI, MN and DC.

    McCain vs. Clinton:
    McCain – AK, ID, MT, UT, CO, WY, SD, ND, TX, OK, KS, NE, MS, AL, GA, NC, SC, VA and LA.
    Leaning McCain – WI, NV, OR, MO, IN, KY, AZ, CT and ME.
    Leaning Clinton – AR, NM, TN, NH, MD, OH, PA, MI and IA.
    Clinton – CA, WA, HI, IL, MN, FL, NY, MA, NJ, VT, DE, DC, RI and WV.

    Clinton has the best Delegate Chance to win in November.

    April 22, 2008 01:01 am at 1:01 am |
  25. Nelson, OSLO

    I never new that experience on the Clinton camp means stupidity and childishness. They still not understand what is happening to them in these elections. I think Jack was right when he ones said on CNN'S situation room that some months behind be4 the elections started she was seeing herself as president. She was not complaining and we were not hearing all these rubbish.

    Years to come daughter Chelsea will be running for president. She has been campaigning for MUMMY. To the Clintons, that is experience.

    April 22, 2008 01:05 am at 1:05 am |
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