April 23rd, 2008
10:20 AM ET
13 years ago

Latest CNN estimate: Clinton wins 80 delegates, Obama 66

(CNN) - Hillary Clinton's Pennsylvania win Tuesday night handed the New York senator 80 delegates while Barack Obama was awarded 66 delegates, according to CNN's latest Delegate estimate.

Twelve Pennsylvania delegates have yet to be allocated.

Including the latest delegate estimate out of Pennsylvania, Obama now leads Clinton by 130 delegates overall and by 154 pledged delegates. Clinton leads Obama in superdelegates by a margin of 24.

soundoff (107 Responses)
  1. Christian, Tampa FL

    So, Pennsylvania was effectively inconclusive.

    April 23, 2008 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  2. In oregon and want change

    All the counting is not done in the Philly area
    and they are over 50 % for Obama so her lead will dwindle when they count those in and some counties are only 97% counted and they are 60% for Obama
    I think they really are all counted but the Gov Rendel is trying to give Hil one big day to celebrate.
    Just my Opinion 🙂


    Obama 08

    Oregon for Obama

    April 23, 2008 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  3. Shirley-Ohio

    The majority of the people have already picked Obama. It does not matter how many delegates she get from now to here on out. She cannot win. The best thing for Hillary is to get out of the race, satisfy her debt and try to work towards getting her 5 million dollary loan back. She is really wasting money when she cannot win. What part of that don't Hillary understand.

    Shirley, Ohio

    April 23, 2008 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  4. Joshua College Station Texas

    Clinton actually won by 9.37500%, with 99% of the vote counted. This rounds UP to 9.4% AT BEST, and DOWN to 9%, for anyone who has taken basic math in school, NOT 10%. Get your numbers right, CNN and MSNBC! Clinton is claiming a "double-digit win", and using it as fuel for her spinning machine, but IT ISN'T TRUE! Geez!

    It ain't just Spinillary Clinton that spins spins spins, it's the news networks! They just want us to keep eating it up! What crap.

    April 23, 2008 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  5. Bee Bee Pittsburgh

    Bill and Hillary are two snakes and the daughter is worst with two parents like that shame on the two them especially after Bill got in office with the black vote. Obama is trying to change this country for the good of all people, she is only trying to make a statement.
    Billaries can care less about this country.

    April 23, 2008 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm |
  6. Josh

    Come on, shes losing by so big she cannot, i say again, cannot catch him. What people don't realize as that she does not care about us, this about her power hungry, greedy, tear down anybody mentality. She is in it for her. Oh and we can't forget shes a big fat liar.

    April 23, 2008 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
  7. HSNP

    Maybe Barack Obama should consider dropping out of the race, for the good of the party!!!

    April 23, 2008 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
  8. Adrian - York, PA

    Real Cheryl for Hillary – Sorry, but it's not spinning it to say that Hillary won't be catching up, unless more super delegates go on her side. Sorry to ruin that Caps-Lock party that you're having. And I must be missing his "racist rhetoric". If you want to talk about "mouth running", look at your beloved Hillary first.

    I'm from PA. I know a large amount of Republicans switched parties here to vote for the weakest candidate in the primaries. Looks like they did a good job.

    April 23, 2008 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  9. may be too late

    If it weren't for the anti-Hillary myths. The media 's pro-Obama bias and coverage. The miscalculations and Mistakes of the DNC, Howard Dean and the party – to force an Obama win, to dissenfranchise voters, to swiftboat Clinton....

    Hillary Clinton would be so far AHEAD and our nominee by now.

    It may be too late for her to win the democratic nomination- but Obama will not reclaim our votes in NOV. It is not too late for an Obama LOSS.

    We will remember this sleazy primary. No to Obama

    April 23, 2008 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  10. Jeremy

    Its a previously forecasted Win for Clinton in Pennsylvania look at the demographic, Blue Collar, second most Elderly concentrated state behind Florida, its her base, there should be no surprise she won, but its just a drop in the bucket.
    Indiana, with its younger foward looking population should vote for Change. Lets get back to innovating, funding education and infrastructure, let regain our standing in world of developed nations, lets inspire the next generation. Lets invest in the homeland. We are one, we are United, lets join Obama for 4 years of progress, and economic prosperity.
    Never Underestimate the whisper of hope, nations have been forged by its very uterance.

    April 23, 2008 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  11. George

    The Obama people keep whining that Hillary goes negative when she questions his electability, but the fact is that from the beginning the Obama people have strategically argued that Hillary can't win because her negatives are too high among Republicans and Independents. That is why Obama does so well in Republican red states where Hillary has high negatives – he plays to the general consensus in those places.
    Hillary now is using that same strategy against Obama. The problem for Obama.though, is that his high negatives are in the states that go Democrat in the general election!
    To quote Obama's best friend – the chickens have come home to roost

    April 23, 2008 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  12. ds

    A win is a win, okay. but it's one state, she won by less than 10%, by the way.

    I understand her need to celebrate, but why are they acting like it's bigger than it is?

    Perhaps their level of over-the-top excitement is porportionate to the equally extreme levels of desperation they must feel at times.

    WHy is it that folks keep asking why Obama hasn't sealed the deal by now?

    WHy are we not asking that of Clinton? She is the one with the household name, who had the initial backing of so many "important people", who is the wife of a president that so many admired–at least once upon a time.

    Comparatively, Obama was the new kid on the block. It's understandable that he would have to make more of an effort and spend more money just to put himself out there on the same playing field as Clinton–and he did.

    Comparatively speaking, Obama has made much more significant headway than Clinton.

    So CLinton, why haven't you taken the ball and rolled with it?

    April 23, 2008 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  13. Ron L







    April 23, 2008 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm |
  14. ex-Obama supporter

    I head a lot of CHANGE from OBAMA and his supporters. Exactly what is this change? Are we changing color? Obama, give us specifics, stop your nonsense. Interestingly, i do not hear any of the Obama supporters talking about what change he is bringing. My sister in law (22) is an Obama supporter, but I kept asking her, What is the change Obama is bringing? Any policy or issue that Obama stands for? She has no answers to that. Her only retort is Hillary's faults and Bush's faults. I repeated my questions and told her I was asking about Obama's change and policies, not about anyone else's faults. If she cannot tell me what his policies are... or what is the change he brings... why is she supporting him? Because he sounds good?
    No answer. But she is considering voting for Hillary in Indiana. so I am suggesting to all Hillary supporters, ask the Obama supporters how they can bring about the change. Do not tell us the reason why we need change. Do not tell us who is to blame for it. Tell us how you can change it. Tell us how you are going to make our debts go away. Do not say that you have a magic wand, Obama. Because we are a little too old and bitter for fairy tales.

    April 23, 2008 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm |
  15. Art, Del Mar, CA

    The PA demographics favored Hillary and there was not much that Obama could do about that. The state is older than all ststes excepy Florida, plus, it has a higher percentage of women voters, who obviously vote based upon the female bias....These voters will all rally to Obama, once Hillary decides to throw her support to him.

    April 23, 2008 12:43 pm at 12:43 pm |
  16. Tim

    She did not win by 10%!!!

    Pennsylvania 04/22 1,042,297 45.3% 1,258,245 54.7% Clinton +215,948 +9.4%

    Rounding up to make it appear like a 10 point win... What a shame!!!

    April 23, 2008 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  17. change

    What is changing is the people's infatuation with Obama.

    They are seeing how hypocritical he is. They are seeing his say one thing and do another. They are seeing him fail to deliver on any of his promises.

    So what changed is that Obama is becoming even less electable as time goes by.

    And people are starting to see him for what he is- an orator. Without a script, he can not answer any questions. He will not have a script as he deals with the questions of the presidency.

    April 23, 2008 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  18. DD, New York

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    Hillary Clinton at her celebratory speech last night said "I'm in this race to fight for you … You know you can count on me to stand up strong for you every single day in the White House." And I believe her. She is staying in this race until the remaining States have had their votes. She is fighting for every voter's voice to be heard. And that includes Michigan and Florida. I think it is the principle, regardless of whether she wins the nomination or not. For that, I stand behind her proudly.

    April 23, 2008 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm |
  19. can't catch upomisa

    Of course the candidate that has been trashed and handicapped and sabotaged for 75% of the primary- can not catch up at the end.

    That isn't the point. The point is that Hillary has a lot of unwavering support. Many of those voters will never give their vote to Obama.

    We will write in Hillary Clinton or if need be, vote for McCain.

    If I know Obama is the lesser candidate, why would I vote for him in the end?

    April 23, 2008 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm |
  20. obamerican

    You must be an illitrare like other's who don't listen to talks(speeches)before giving judgement,for somebody to be a wise person,you must be a good listener so you can understand.you dont hear him say things he want to change.i.e,"TRANSPARENCY GOVERNMENT","INVEST IN STUDENTS"and so many others to be mentioned.you are just a-MORONE- you can't even spell your name well,it is -FEMI- not -FEMMY- OK. OLORIBURUKU NIE.

    CANADIENS for OBAMA ,did you here me yell, ok listen now again-– OOOOOOBBBBBBAAAAAAMMMMMMAAAAAA.
    i am from canada and i approve this MESSAGE.
    please post it
    thank U.

    April 23, 2008 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm |
  21. Joni

    I find it strange that Clinton who is losing to Obama in delegates won, number of states won, popular votes count is saying that she is better qualified to win the general election. I find her logic not supported by events on the ground. John Mccain can win the same group that she is winning and might win more of them than she is doing.My question to Hillary is why can't she win the demographics that Obama is winning. Could it be that the groups have figured her out?

    April 23, 2008 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm |
  22. HoldenLitgo

    Wondering why the pundits – and the voters, for that matter – aren't trumpeting the fact that the Democrats with, in some cases, more than twice the turnout than the Republicans in the primary contests, either of these two candidates will beat McCain in the general election even if half of the (most insane) supporters stay home or switch parties.

    April 23, 2008 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  23. Kevin, Austin

    Here's a couple points I have:

    Of the three remaining candidates, two have bankrupted their campaigns. Only one runs in the black and generates lots of income.
    Is this a precursor to how they might run the economy? I think it's a precursor of what's to come.

    Those of you who keep supporting Clinton, are doing so out of blind faith. I don't blame you. We all have our viewpoints. However, if we want to win the White House, we have to have clear eyes right now. We have to see that Obama will be the nominee, by every measure out there. To continue to support Clinton does two things – puts her in debt, and puts our party behind in winning the White House.

    I doubt if you're a Clinton supporter, this will convince you to change your mind. But it's a cold fact that needs to be addressed.

    Obama will be the nominee. How will we win the White House together?

    April 23, 2008 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  24. Donna

    Real Clear politics poll Survey USA North Carolina poll shows Obama with only a 9 point lead. Good news for Clinton.

    April 23, 2008 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  25. LL

    I think that Clinton shoud back out now. There is no way that she can get more delegates than Obama at this point, so why keep dragging it out? I think that just gives more fuel to Mc Cain. He's not going to have to "find" anything bad to say about Obama because Clinton is already giving him things to say. Once Obama is named the nominee, how is she going to suddenly back him after all the things that she has said? I do not believe this is good for the party.

    Another issue I have is the way they are breaking down the votes by race, gender, religion, etc. I believe that anyone who has voted for any democrat during these primaries will vote for whichever candidate gets the nomination because no one wants a repeat of the last 8 yrs. Therefore, I don't see the point Clinton is trying to make stating that she wins the big states. I think that all of Clinton's votes would go to Obama in Nov. The only way the numbers will drop will be if this negativity continues & people develop a genuine dislike of Obama based on the negative things said/done by Clinton. That's why I feel she should quit now so that we regroup while there's still time.

    April 23, 2008 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
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