April 24th, 2008
10:45 AM ET
14 years ago

Richardson: Clinton supporters 'clinging to the throne'


Watch Carville and Richardson square off on Larry King Live.

(CNN) – After weeks of verbal brawling, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson and James Carville spoke for the first time on CNN’s Larry King Live Wednesday night. Richardson – now a supporter of Barack Obama – called Hillary Clinton backers like Carville ‘a dynasty’ that is ‘clinging to the throne.’

The CNN contributor defended calling Richardson a ‘Judas’ in a New York Times interview after the governor announced his endorsement of Obama.

“I said it. I was quoted accurately. I was quoted in context. I thought it was an appropriate metaphor,” Carville told King. “If it would have been the Fourth of July, I would have said ‘Benedict Arnold,’” Carville said.

Richardson called Carville’s response “typical of the reaction of Clinton supporters.”

“They feel they’re a dynasty. They’re clinging to the throne,” Richardson added.

Watch Carville and Richardson clash over whether the results in the Florida and Michigan primaries should help determine the Democratic Party’s nominee, whether Obama should agree to more debates before Indiana and North Carolina vote May 6 - and whether the primary race has become so negative it’s hurting the party’s prospects in the general election.

soundoff (313 Responses)
  1. Toronto Guy

    Richardson's is doing the right thing in helping the coutry instead of helping a family. He knows that Obama is the better candidate and the better candidate should win! thats the criteria. you should not vote for the candidate that helped you in the past.

    April 24, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  2. tonybama

    Carville`s response is typical of the Clinton camp, extreme bitterness toward anyone who doesn't support them. So many Clinton supporters are so hateful of Obama. if you really think about it, whats to hate about him. His views are pretty similar on most issues to hers. Most of his negative campaigning is in response to hers, and the Clintons have repeatedly said that negative campaigning is a necessary part of politics. Maybe someone from their side can fill me in as to the reason for this intense hatred.

    I see it from the Obama side as well, but its been after the kitchen sink strategy and Tanya Harding strategy were implemented, and doesn't seem as widespread.

    By the way, is Hillary going to denounce the latest North Carolina Republican attack ad. If not, this should cause her great harm within her own party. You can't keep trying to run as a Republican.

    April 24, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  3. Marc

    It must eat up Richardson inside to know that his lame endorsement didn't help Obama at all in PA. In reality, all he did was alienate himself from the hispanic community.

    April 24, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  4. Shawn

    Richardson has shot himself in the foot. It's not nice to play so nice with the Clintons all these years and then stab them in the back. So much for loyalty.

    April 24, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  5. Ernest

    Roger and Toronto girl, I think that you are missing the point. We are talking about the future and not the past. Gov. Richardson is right and an honest man.

    April 24, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  6. Thomas


    Carville is a paid mouthpiece who has been riding the Clinton coattails since 1990, when Bill started his run for the presidency.

    Richardson is a man who has earned his own way in this world. Yes, Clinton appointed him to positions but it was on his own merit.
    Bill Clinton did not make Bill Richardson the man he is. He did it all on his own.

    Richardson has ever right to be bitter towards the Clintons for the way they have acted. They acted like they were entitled to and owned his vote and endorsement.

    April 24, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  7. Mike

    What ever one has to be thinking about right know is why are conservatives supporting clintons? Next why are the clintons running a campaign that is inline with what the GOP runs? Who is for the people I am tried of hearing that the clintons help someone out so that person most back the clintons. I am joining a big percentage of Americans that if the clintons get the nomination without leading in states, votes, and delegates, its republican all the way. Michigan and Florida broke the rules lets show the younger generation that if you brake the rules you get punished plus Michigan did not have everyone on the ballot and still the clintons could not win big.

    April 24, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  8. Joseph Adewole

    I wonder why Clinton supporters are like the Clintons; Richardson has done the right thing, some of Clinton supporters don't even have conscience..think of what is right and do it not looking unto anyone to make up your own mind.

    April 24, 2008 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
  9. katharyn

    I feel that Richardson was right stating that Clintons are like "dynasty" and I believe that most ( maybe not all people) who support Hillary are supporting her because they are too afraid of losing their jobs or status...or because they feel that they "owe" her allegance.

    April 24, 2008 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
  10. bigben

    He is mad because his endorsement meant nothing

    April 24, 2008 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
  11. rose, texas

    people like richardson r traders. if he had made it in the race i know i would not b voting 4 him. the only reason that he endoresed obama is because he thinks he will b one of the cabinet members. that is why hillary has 2 win .. go hillary go.......

    April 24, 2008 01:12 pm at 1:12 pm |
  12. Getting tired of this

    I saw the show too and had an entirely different view of it. I thought Carville came across like a school child and Richardson came across as a senior political leader who resents the Clinton view that they somehow own him just because they once gave him a job.

    And his comments that the Clintons are trying to hold on to the throne is very much in line with what many many people believe. HRC's air of entitlement from the beginning of this campaign has been palpable. It found its manifestation in her decision to ignore small states, her contention that the race would be over by Feb 5, and her spending habits, which were pegged to the "close this out early" arrogance. And it is a big reason why she is losing now.

    April 24, 2008 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  13. Rj

    Carville is absolutely right! There are many Judas in the Democratic Party nowadays... They should all be hanged!

    These so called LEADERS that should set good example of loyalty to their constituents are Blatantly betraying them. SHAME ON THEM!!!

    These Elders are asking their supporters to support them but have different standard in supporting their constituents. SHAME ON YOU!!!

    DNC Traitors & Judases:(Voted against the will of their Constituents)
    Ted Kennedy
    John Kerry
    Nancy Pelosi
    Bill Richardson
    Gov. Henry

    ***Will you join them????*** SHAME ON THEM!!!

    April 24, 2008 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  14. Steve in California

    Carrville's counter to Richardson's "throne" comment was correct. People are voting in an election. No one is clinging to a throne. Why did Obama suppress the Florida/Michigan revote? We're a democracy. Many Democrats will not recognize the legitimacy of an Obama nomination without a valid vote in Florida and Michigan.

    April 24, 2008 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  15. Obama Voter 08

    Most of the old Clinton regime have turned against them big time. Doesn't anybody bother to ask why? There has got to be a reason why they are all jumping ship, they are not all crazy or 'Judas's' as that hillbilly Carville makes them seem. Maybe like most of america they know the Clintons and don't like their evil ways.

    April 24, 2008 01:14 pm at 1:14 pm |
  16. Felly

    The Clintons are polarizing. No more Bush-Clinton, Bush-Clinton dynasty, period.

    April 24, 2008 01:14 pm at 1:14 pm |
  17. Brian (in PA)

    Sounds like sour grapes from Richardson.

    April 24, 2008 01:14 pm at 1:14 pm |
  18. Venus

    YES! Hillary – take Carville and Bill and pack it up! This is over!

    Hillary you needed to win Penn-State by 64%! And, now to stay in this race you will need to win the rest of the states by 68% and you need a lot of money!

    So much for you clinging to throne! I bet you feel bitter now!

    Carville needs a cave to live in! He was NASTY toward Richardson on Larry King!

    Welcome Mr. President Obama!!!!!!!!!!

    April 24, 2008 01:14 pm at 1:14 pm |
  19. JUNIOR


    April 24, 2008 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  20. akaDoug

    Richardson is right! The Clinton's are acting like they deserve this nomination, instead of trying to earn it! Clinging to the throne is such a perfect line! God Bless people like Richardson that have the courage to look outside the system and pick who they feel is best qualified, instead of blindly following the status quo!

    End the drama, vote Obama!

    April 24, 2008 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  21. Texas Guy

    I saw this....and Carville epitomizes what the Clintons stand for: An old politics built on chameleon-like rhetoric and win at any costs.

    Even the Republican McCain has run a more decent/fair campaign.

    April 24, 2008 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  22. Alonzo Demetrius

    Wow! When Carville gets mad, watch out!

    April 24, 2008 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  23. John, Brooklyn, NY

    If the Clinton campaign is genuine in saying that both Barak and Hillary are strong, viable candidates and that, at the end of the day, it is both side's highest priority that a Democrat win in November, then Richardson's decision to support Obama certainly doesn't rise to the scale of "betrayal" that Carville has portrayed.

    This kind of you're-either-with-me-or-against-me rhetoric from the Clinton camp exactly reflects the kind of divisive, partisan, angry, and mean-spirited politics that the American people are tired of. James Carville, Geraldine Ferraro, Robert Johnson (to name just a few) – through both their absurdly hostile statements and their brittle defensiveness – help DEFINE the kind of politics that Obama pledged to bring to an end.

    April 24, 2008 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
  24. Annamica, OH

    Richardson is vying for a spot in the cabinet again...he will do whatever it takes, even if it means saying such hateful things about the people who helped him. There is no loyalty in politics, and Richardson is a prime example. Obama is still party to "the politics of the past" as he puts it.

    April 24, 2008 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  25. Who Let Carville Out

    Carville and his Judas remarks need to crawl back under that rock he slithered out from. Richardson is a man of honor and character who had the guts to stand up to the Clintons and he cerrtainly didn't deserve that comment.

    Hillary is running around saying that the PLEDGED DELEGATES are not bound to anyone now and trying to get them to go against the popular vote she so desperately is trying to claim. We know that Super Delegates have latitude...that is unless you go against the Clintons.

    April 24, 2008 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
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