April 24th, 2008
10:45 AM ET
14 years ago

Richardson: Clinton supporters 'clinging to the throne'


Watch Carville and Richardson square off on Larry King Live.

(CNN) – After weeks of verbal brawling, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson and James Carville spoke for the first time on CNN’s Larry King Live Wednesday night. Richardson – now a supporter of Barack Obama – called Hillary Clinton backers like Carville ‘a dynasty’ that is ‘clinging to the throne.’

The CNN contributor defended calling Richardson a ‘Judas’ in a New York Times interview after the governor announced his endorsement of Obama.

“I said it. I was quoted accurately. I was quoted in context. I thought it was an appropriate metaphor,” Carville told King. “If it would have been the Fourth of July, I would have said ‘Benedict Arnold,’” Carville said.

Richardson called Carville’s response “typical of the reaction of Clinton supporters.”

“They feel they’re a dynasty. They’re clinging to the throne,” Richardson added.

Watch Carville and Richardson clash over whether the results in the Florida and Michigan primaries should help determine the Democratic Party’s nominee, whether Obama should agree to more debates before Indiana and North Carolina vote May 6 - and whether the primary race has become so negative it’s hurting the party’s prospects in the general election.

soundoff (313 Responses)
  1. Ann

    Bill Richardson is a disappointment. A mediocre man.

    April 24, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  2. Chris Banner

    It doesn't make any sense to see two democrats destroying each other on Larry King,.... This is how far our party has gone, really?
    I believe that it is time for Change, that CLinton should not only step down, but also appologise for all her antics towards Obama.
    But I guess she won't, given that the "dynasty" has to rule.... By the way we live in a free country with lots of freedom of speech, so Carville had the right to say what he said even though he was wrong to compare Richardson to Juda.
    My point is Richardson had the right to support Obama ...So Carville should just get on with his own business and let other people express their opinions..

    April 24, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  3. Sharon Minnesota

    I watched some of this but it was too painful to continue to the end. OMG, is this fight ever going to end

    Obama, please drop out so we can get on with winning in November with Hillary,

    April 24, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  4. Madison , PA

    Richardson is right... THIS IS NOT THE DYNASTY...We are tired of BUSH- CLINTON -BUSH... No more CLINTON
    Better McCain or Obama.

    April 24, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  5. Jack Mpls

    Richardson is really worthless, banking on Obama after his own state voted and guess what he did it for his own progression in his career otherwise why did he do it. It is obvious the latino vote is still for Hillary, it just makes Richardson look even worse for that.

    April 24, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  6. Great

    Hillary should give Democrats a break and drop out…. what is she trying to prove here? The country will break into racial riots if the nomination is stolen from an African-American and given to a white elite. There is no way she can get the nomination, so she should cool off and take a trip to Hawaii 🙂 (where Obama was born, incidentally)

    April 24, 2008 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  7. Alfredo

    Suddenly Bill Richardson showed up in CNN after Obama lost Pennsylvannia. Why! Are you afraid Hilalry is winning. You should worry and that is what you deserve you selfish and traitor.

    April 24, 2008 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  8. Michael G Ventura, CA

    Richardson v Carville- James Carville is not a man of reason. He is funny, knowledgable, and most of all the politician's politician.
    Gov. Richardson hit the nail on the head! And it's appreciated.
    The debate issue is ludicrous. There have been 21 debates and no one who saw them can question their stands on the issues.
    Carville wants to play American Gladiator with the election and Barack Obama doesn't NEED to play that game. HE is the front runner. Period.

    April 24, 2008 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  9. Mekki

    CARVILLE NEEDS TO SHUT UP AND MOVE ON. HIS WIFE IS A Republican strategist and i am wondering what's carville intension here.
    he add more hate to this campaign and at the end he has nothing to lose, he gain both ways !!

    April 24, 2008 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  10. Xavier, Saint Louis, Missouri

    I have to agree with Richardson. Clinton and Obama agreed to follow the rules of the DNC before this race started. YOU CAN NOT CHANGE THE RULES OF A GAME ONCE THE GAME HAS STARTED. This is just another desperation move by the Clintons; do whatever it takes to win. Please! This game is over and all Democrats should support Obama so we can defeat McCain in November. Case closed!

    April 24, 2008 12:08 pm at 12:08 pm |
  11. Jeff Radun

    Clinging is a word that he shouldn't be using.
    Sounds familiar
    The candidate he is supporting said the same thing about many of Hillary's supporters.
    If Obama wins and wants to have the people supporting Hillay to support him I the fall I would have the back stabing Richardson not say to much negative about Hillay's supporters weather they are close to her or just the people voting for her.
    The people who voted in PA for her are not clinging as Mr Richardson and Mr Obama point out.

    April 24, 2008 12:08 pm at 12:08 pm |
  12. Michelle

    No more debates! I know it's good for ratings (as Carville kept pumping) but it's not good for the Democratic party. Hold your ground, Obama!

    Richardson, you rock! God bless you!

    I'm wondering how the U.S. could criticize other countries for racial injustices (racial cleansing, racial suppression, racial bias, etc.) if the new president in 2008 (and this would be my worst nightmare) was Billary Clinton...a candidate(s) who won by inciting racial bias and divided the country along the lines of race, gender, economics and religious culture. That will be some diplomatic calling card and give us just about zero credibility in the eyes of the world.

    The only way we can reclaim the disaster of the Bush/Clinton legacy and regain some respect in the world is by showing we are a true democracy (a melting pot that promotes freedom and values all citizens) in which a bi-racial man (who is incidently also the best qualified presidential candidate for the job I have ever had the honor of voting for in my lifetime) can be elected president.

    April 24, 2008 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm |
  13. Andrea

    Please Richardson! you are such a pathetic opportunist and I will be so happy to see that you don't get reelected. How could they be "clinging to the throne' when the country is voting for her? It is like you are just writing off half the voting public by saying that!

    April 24, 2008 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm |
  14. Mel

    I am proud of the way Carville conducted himself. I am disappointed in Richardson. For one, Carville never talked against Obama. Richardson make negative statements against Clinton. Now, that's disappointing. Carville said that, although he supports Clinton, he would absolutely support Obama, if Obama gets the nomination. Richardson NEVER said that he would work for Clinton if she gets the nomination. Based on the way Richardson performed in the discussion, I agree with Carville's initial characterization of Richardson .

    April 24, 2008 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm |
  15. jb

    How many faces does richardson have?

    April 24, 2008 12:10 pm at 12:10 pm |
  16. Independent Thinker

    I used to be a fan of Richardson's. Now I think "Judas" is a generous way of defining him. He was a nobody before the Clintons gave him prestige. Now he's back to being a nobody again, even to this Hispanic-American!

    April 24, 2008 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm |
  17. Jeff - Dallas

    Gov. Richardson has it right. The country needs a fresh start. The Clintons are not the right choice for what our country needs. It took strong personal convictions for Richardson to do what is right and endorse Obama.
    Carville got it wrong. Richardson is not a "Judas", nor a "Benedict Arnold". Richardson is a PATRIOT who made a difficult personal decision for what he believes is the correct direction for the country.

    April 24, 2008 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm |
  18. mike

    Carville and the Clintons continue to prove Richardson's point. They have this attitude of entitlement to the presidency. While the defections of previous Clinton supporters may be hurtful, that is politics, as the Clintons love to say. When it suits them to play political games they justify it. When it works against them, they whine and complain. Carville needs to give this one up.

    April 24, 2008 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  19. Michael

    If the truth hurts....

    No more dynasty's in America..especially in the White House.

    April 24, 2008 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  20. gerard morei

    Richardson is realy a full time flipper, he only look for a good possition for him and doesn't care about the rest of the people, specially about his own community, the Spanish Community. His State vote for Clinton and him is going against his own State will. He better have a job with Obama if Obama wins otherwise he will be unemployed for long time,he is done with the Spanish Community and he realy is like Judas,period.
    Hillary for President 2009!!

    April 24, 2008 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm |
  21. Kate

    I'm not a fan of Richardson but I agree with his statements. I feel the supporters of Hillary are doing so based soley on her husband's presidential legacy. Hillary is not Bill. Living in the White house does not equal experience. Riding the coattails of your politically powerful spouse, does not equal experience. She has lied repeatedly throughout this campaign, resorted to Republican fear tactics, and even today showed just how arrogant she is. To declare yourself the winner of the popular vote before any legitimate process has taken place, is downright laughable. Who really wants to have the Bush-Clinton families in control of this country for another 4 years?

    April 24, 2008 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm |
  22. Linda. Boston, MA

    That's EXACTLY how they are acting – like they own the Democratic party and that she is somehow entitled to the Presidency. I guess somewhere along the way they forgot that the Democratic party is fundamentally based on democracy.

    April 24, 2008 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm |
  23. stephany

    The Clinton campaign has been acting really immature. We need a reliable adult to run the White House. The Democrate Party is truly divided. This is proof of it. There was a time you respected the older generation. Now, it's the younger generation who has to teach the older generation how to behave and how to speak to one another.
    If Hillary really had a solution, she would realize that arguing and name calling and telling false stories is the not a solution but a problem. If she is going to fight for us then she needs to be a responsible adult and learn to be truthful as much as possible.

    April 24, 2008 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm |
  24. Johnny Boy


    April 24, 2008 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
  25. Jan From Florida

    It's so sad that Richardson only endorsed Obama because he
    really thinks Obama will give him the V.P. spot.

    Ricjardson may really be in for a big surprise if Clinton is the nominee
    or if it turns out to be the dream team ticket with Obama/Clinton
    or Clinton/Obama

    Richardson will be left out in the cold, yes and he is a Judas.

    April 24, 2008 12:14 pm at 12:14 pm |
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