April 24th, 2008
10:45 AM ET
14 years ago

Richardson: Clinton supporters 'clinging to the throne'


Watch Carville and Richardson square off on Larry King Live.

(CNN) – After weeks of verbal brawling, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson and James Carville spoke for the first time on CNN’s Larry King Live Wednesday night. Richardson – now a supporter of Barack Obama – called Hillary Clinton backers like Carville ‘a dynasty’ that is ‘clinging to the throne.’

The CNN contributor defended calling Richardson a ‘Judas’ in a New York Times interview after the governor announced his endorsement of Obama.

“I said it. I was quoted accurately. I was quoted in context. I thought it was an appropriate metaphor,” Carville told King. “If it would have been the Fourth of July, I would have said ‘Benedict Arnold,’” Carville said.

Richardson called Carville’s response “typical of the reaction of Clinton supporters.”

“They feel they’re a dynasty. They’re clinging to the throne,” Richardson added.

Watch Carville and Richardson clash over whether the results in the Florida and Michigan primaries should help determine the Democratic Party’s nominee, whether Obama should agree to more debates before Indiana and North Carolina vote May 6 - and whether the primary race has become so negative it’s hurting the party’s prospects in the general election.

soundoff (313 Responses)
  1. Belle



    Do you REALLY think us voters are so stupid we don't recognize this?

    What about Carville calling Richardson to task on the revote in FL and MI and the OFFER from the Clinton campaign to fund it??? What about the argument between the two that Richarson finally had to agree with Carville.

    Why don't you try some fair reporting?

    April 24, 2008 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
  2. vic nashville,Tn

    Best show in 2008 . We have to crate new award for Larry . The award should be the best in the whole planet . I love you Larry
    James Carville did a good job, we have to count FL and MI or redo and need more debates. The show made Hillary supporters more strong because we have valid reason to support her
    Hillary 08

    April 24, 2008 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
  3. Mike from Westchester

    Go Richardson! You got to love this guy. He took on a charter member of the Clinton liars' club last night.

    The biggest joke line from Carville was that Indiana should be the "tiebreaker". LOL. What tie? Consider the porportional rules, Obama is killing her.

    138 up, including superdelegates. With NC and OR going big for Obama, he will be 150 up come June 3. There will probably be less than 250 superdelegates to go at that point, so HRC will have to get over 80% of the remainder when Obama is the clear pledged delegate winner at about +175. Not happening unless the Clintons do something really underhanded, which, of course, would kill her chances in November.

    Sorry, but Hillary will never be President. Just the way it is. We all need to rally behind our candidate, Barack Obama.

    April 24, 2008 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
  4. White Middle-Aged Female in PA for Obama

    That says it all.

    Obama '08 and '12

    April 24, 2008 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
  5. Tony Z- MD

    HRC supporters listen to Richardson and other former Bill Clinton cabinenet members. The DNC and America need new life. Clinton lost Gore the White House.

    April 24, 2008 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
  6. The Young & Educated for Obama

    I AGREE! The Clintons believe they are 'ENTITLED' to the presidency and that is NOT HOW THIS WORKS!
    ITS the PEOPLE who elects its president! If you LIE and DECEIVE the people you are NOT FIT to be President!
    After May 6th this flip flop of a race will be put to rest because the Smart ones heard enough LIES from Hillary!

    Obama 08/12

    April 24, 2008 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
  7. Jen - Left Coaster

    I agree with Carville. Instead of the candidates' supporters debating, let the candidates debate. I know they have had myriad debates, but let's hear the issues. What was omitted in this article is that Carville and others recommended a revote, therefore, both candidates having a fair opportunity. I am not sure what is wrong with that. It is fair for both candidates. I am offended by Richardson's comment that Clinton supporters are clinging to the throne. I vote on the issues, not on a throne. Period.

    April 24, 2008 12:21 pm at 12:21 pm |
  8. sandie

    Why hasn't any one mentioned that the fact that Hillary want to count FL. and MI now that she needs the votes and delegate.Is this not more proof that she is not a truthful person. She signed off on the rules now she's trying to go back on her word!! Think people this is not a person that means what she say, she'll say or do any thing to win.

    April 24, 2008 12:21 pm at 12:21 pm |
  9. Angry Democrat

    I have absolutely had it. I can't believe how much Clinton repeatedly changes the rules of the game as she goes. I come from a very split political family and I have always argued on behalf of democatic candidates and causes but I have lost ALL trust in Clinton. If Barack Obama does not win the nomination, I will vote for McCain. It makes me ill to even say that, but I could not live with myself putting Hillary Clinton in the White House after her horrific and careless campaign. She does not care about how badly her and her husband damage our party in their selfish push to get back into the White House. I have lost respect for both of them. If Obama does not come out of this with his well-deserved nomination the democratic party will lose all of it's excitment and young life that has been drawn to it, more specifically drawn to Barack Obama. I have confidence that the superdelegates can see through the Clinton Spin.

    April 24, 2008 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
  10. ShannonL

    Richardson is a traitor...plain and simple. Not only did he turn his back on the people that made his career happen, he also turned his back on NM voters when he endorsed Obama, even though Clinton won his state....and this is after promising his state that he would endorse the winner.

    So not only has he lied to the Clintons. He also lied to his entire state and broke a promise he made ot them.

    With friends like Richardson, who needs enemies?

    April 24, 2008 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
  11. cecil

    She started with a lead of almost 20 points. But her final margin was 9.2% period. CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC Just state the facts please, you have them!

    This was no blowout.

    All those White Americans really help her in Penn.
    All those African Americans really help Sen. Obama in Penn..

    Clinton faces uphill battle in North Carolina, welcome to Obamas world.

    9.2% in Sen Hillary play ground not bad . Lets see how she does in NC.

    Obama Supporters Lets continue to give of our time and money.

    Sen. Obama 08

    April 24, 2008 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  12. elli

    I do not wish to undermine the prior accomplishments of the Clintons. However, I would like to see a change from the Busch-Clinton-Bush tradition, i.e. Obama or even McCain as a president.
    BTW:Politico recently reported that Clinton is prob. not going to get that double-digit win in Pennsylvania after all.
    With 99.5% of precincts reporting, she's at a 9.2% lead; and the votes left to be counted seem to be in Philadelphia....

    April 24, 2008 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  13. Gail

    This is so true. No they are on the debate mantra. Obama had agree to debate in NC on April 19 and Clinton Agreed to the 27....therefore there was not agreement. The candidate which is behind, always wants more debates, and that is Clinton.

    Stop the madness

    April 24, 2008 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  14. ashish

    too much acrimony, we're all on the same team

    April 24, 2008 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  15. Deo

    Richardson knows the Clintons better than most of us. Indeed, I always wonder why the Clintons do not want to concede, and seem to be ready to play any kind of foul to win. I hoped they would show their maturity, like John Eduards, or other candidates who have dropped out of the race. It's obvious, Clinton can't overtake Obama. Why does she want to force the Superdelagates to go against the will of the voters? Why doesn't she show love to the Democratic Party that she and her husband have been serving for so long and drop out for the good of the Party and all Democrats?

    Wish this race is over soon and look forward to having a Democrat in the White House come November.

    April 24, 2008 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  16. Alex H

    I love how Carville said everyone should stop whining... and then started whining!

    April 24, 2008 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  17. DD, New York

    Bill Richardson, if Obama wins the nomination, you will quickly find out he cannot win out against McCain! You will realize you have made a terrible mistake in supporting Obama. And if, by some chance, Obama wins the nomination and goes on to the presidency, you will quickly learn how inexperienced, inept and wrong for this highest job in the land! I do believe Carville went soft on you, to boot!

    April 24, 2008 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  18. Jim

    GO Richardson!! Put them in their place dude!

    April 24, 2008 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  19. DZ in Austin

    Jumping on the back of a band wagon doesn't mean you know how to play an instrument. I'm guessing the ride on the Clinton band wagon got a little rough, so Richardson jumped off looking for a smoother ride. Too bad he left his dignity on the road between them. While I understand he never promised to endorse Hillary, I am convinced he did promise not to endorse anyone and he broke that promise. Judas is as Judas does.

    April 24, 2008 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  20. B.NYC

    Dear Gov. Richardson,

    News Flash... Half (if not a bit more) of the Democratic party support Senator Clinton. If you have not checked lately, Senator Obama has lost ALL of the big states dispite spending four times the money the Clinton camp. invested...

    Dynasty? Thats a good one sir... Seems you would not have a job if it were not for President Clinton (because you are kind of a joke).

    You are not going to change the minds of Clinton supporters, we know who the strong person in this race is... You can beat her down but she has never quit and never made lame excuses...

    Sorry man, your guy is only supported by 1/4 of the country... Get a grip.


    April 24, 2008 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  21. ss

    Carville is the man. The metaphor that Carville used on Easter time is the best I’ve seen. Richardson has no loyalty. You will see – if Obama continues to not perform Richardson will get out of his boat in a hurry.

    April 24, 2008 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  22. Jordan

    Richardson is right again... Nice Bill!

    April 24, 2008 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
  23. Michael

    Why to the Dems always blow it? I told everyone I know early in the primaries, they should have picked Edwards, a white Southern male with strong labor ties. The "Reagan Democrats" will never vote for a black, or for Hillary. Now we have all this stupid bickering and the unimaginable prospect of a McCain presidency!

    April 24, 2008 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  24. Luke in Dallas

    Mind you Sen. Richardson, she has 15,095,663 voters on her side.

    “Typical of the reaction of Clinton supporters” is serious personal attack to all the people who voted for Hillary!!

    April 24, 2008 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  25. Kay-Arizona

    Why shouldn't the Florida and Michigan democrats who bothered to vote be factored in for the popular vote? The DNC, in all their flawed logic, said they would not seat the delegates that resulted from these primaries, but that does not mean they don't exist. The voters were still there.

    Over two million democrats bothered to come to the polls and cast their ballots, and Richardson wants to forget they exist because they didn't vote the way he wanted them to.

    With that kind of logic they might decide to forget the democratic party exists in November.

    Speaking of destroying the Democratic Party for the advantage of one candidate !!

    April 24, 2008 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
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