April 24th, 2008
03:05 PM ET
14 years ago

Was Pennsylvania a double-digit Clinton win - or not?

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/04/24/art.elex1.cnn.jpg caption="Did Clinton get a double-digit win?"] (CNN) - It's one little point that's making for a whole lot of discussion. Was it 9 points or was it 10? That’s the question many people are asking about Hillary Clinton’s margin of victory over Barack Obama in Tuesday’s Pennsylvania Primary.

According to the most up-to-date vote totals from the Associated Press - used by all networks and national news organizations - Clinton won 1,260,208 votes in Pennsylvania to Obama’s 1,045,444. If you break it down by percentages, that’s 54.65 percent for Clinton and 45.34 percent for Obama. If you round up the Clinton number to 55 percent and the Obama number is rounded down to 45 percent, you get a ten point margin of victory for Clinton.

But if the difference between 45.34 and 54.65 is 9.31 percent - the margin of victory for Clinton - the result should be rounded down to nine percent.

Got it?

(Updated numbers after the jump)

Why does this matter? Maybe because the candidates spent six long weeks campaigning in Pennsylvania, and because so many political pundits said Clinton needed to win Pennsylvania by double digits to keep her bid for the Democratic presidential nomination alive.

But regardless of the margin of victory in Pennsylvania, the race has now moved on to Indiana and North Carolina, the next battlegrounds in the road to the White House.

UPDATE: As the count in Pennsylvania continues, Clinton's margin has edged up slightly. According to the latest tally released by the Associated Press, she now has 1,260,416 votes, or 54.7 percent of the total; Obama has 1,045,910 votes, or 45.3 of the total. That makes the current margin of victory for Clinton 9.4 percent, which still rounds down to a 9-point victory.

soundoff (464 Responses)
  1. Matthew, Philadelphia, PA

    I am admittedly a Clinton supporter, and not trying to bash Obama here, but who really cares if it's 9%, 9.31% or 10%? She won and she won big.

    April 24, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  2. Robert Cummins

    Okay, so compromise , she won by 9.3%. Not exactly a double digit lead.

    April 24, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  3. Sammy

    The numbers should matter simply because accuracy is always important in elections, whether its 1 point or 10. If the difference between 9 and 10 alters how the delegates are awarded then I expect both campaigns will fight like mad. I guess the question is whether or not they are awarded on round numbers.

    April 24, 2008 02:17 pm at 2:17 pm |
  4. April in Texas

    About time this gets reported... Thank you CNN.She won by 9 as since it was low a low 9 it gets lowered not promoted up to 10.. WTG Obama we did awesome in PA and we know it.. Now to NC and IN as its time to seal the deal here...

    Obama 08

    April 24, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  5. bigben

    oh noes dont wanna make the blacka angry. I am scared not.

    April 24, 2008 02:18 pm at 2:18 pm |
  6. Gloria

    Why don't you people get a life. What does it matter 9 or 10 the woman won. Give her a break.

    April 24, 2008 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  7. Dan J

    So her win was actually 9.31%? Not 10%? That's it! She should drop due to these semantics! Please! Oh, and let's ignore absentee ballots.

    April 24, 2008 02:19 pm at 2:19 pm |
  8. Tom

    CNN always lieing for Hillary she won by 9% this is worst election I ever witness CNN needs to come out and say they support Hillary, ask CNN what the percentage for Hillary in North Carolina

    April 24, 2008 02:20 pm at 2:20 pm |
  9. faye

    Obama stopped Hillary just as he wanted to. With all the negativity and attempts to distroy him, she could not win big, yea, 9%. Since she claims more experience and electability she would not have to stoop too the lowest degree to be elected. I at one time admired the Clinton's back in the 90's but not this time. It is truly time for a change and Mr. Obama is the one. I will, as a Dem support which ever one wins, because i believe in the unity of Dem. Therefore, my fellow Dem lets not lose sight.

    April 24, 2008 02:20 pm at 2:20 pm |
  10. Debbie, NJ

    Normally when you round a number it is the total that gets rounded so why is Hillary's math so different. It's 9%. Wow she's turning the media and all her backers into crooks and liars.

    April 24, 2008 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  11. we wanh hillary, not mccain...screw him.

    Hillary is a gangster.

    April 24, 2008 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  12. Deshad Cato

    9 or 10
    Fact is she still won.
    Just like Obama is still winning and has been winning for some time now.

    I don't understand this party can be so foolish. It's simple, Hilary can't win with just the votes anymore. She needs the superdelegates to win and if she is a woman of any pride she wont take the nomination if it's handed to her.

    April 24, 2008 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  13. jr

    Look, she'll round up when it serves her purpose and round down when it does not. What's new. Her and her whole campaign are
    L ying
    A mbitious
    M ean
    E litists

    April 24, 2008 02:22 pm at 2:22 pm |
  14. Jack in ND

    A 9.5 could be rounded up to 10 for reporting purposes, but since such political hay was made of Hillary getting a double-digit win, to claim that achievement would require a raw, pure, unrounded 10 or better.

    A victory of 9.99% rounds to 10, but doesn't meet the double digit margin standard.

    April 24, 2008 02:22 pm at 2:22 pm |
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