New compromise proposed on Michigan delegation
(CNN) - Michigan’s Democrats have released another new proposal yesterday in their quest to ensure their state will be represented at this summer’s Democratic National Convention.
Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Sen. Carl Levin, Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger – the working group that has been meeting to try to end the impasse - sent a letter to state party chair Mark Brewer Tuesday in which they urged the Democratic National Committee to seat the Michigan delegation under a formula that would give a 10-delegate edge to Hillary Clinton.
Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in the state’s January contest, which she won with 55 percent of the vote. No delegates were awarded because of national party penalties on Michigan Democrats for moving up their primary date. Forty percent of January’s primary voters chose the “uncommitted” option on the ballot; a majority of those “uncommitted” delegates are backing Barack Obama.
Clinton’s campaign has said that the results of the January vote – which would give her an 18-delegate edge, 73-55 – should count. Obama’s campaign had said the delegates should be split evenly, 64-64.
DNC member Joel Ferguson has called for a plan that would give half a vote to each pledged delegate and a full vote to each superdelegate. The committee said Tuesday they opposed this plan. Under their proposal, which splits the difference between the Obama and Clinton proposals, the state’s 128 pledged delegates would be split 69-59, with the majority going to Hillary Clinton.
If both campaigns do not agree on a compromise, the issue will head to the DNC’s Credentials Committee for a resolution.
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Don't do it Obama..... I bet if your name was on the ballot linton wouldnt have had as many votes!
Give Hillary 55% of the delegates and Obama 45%.
Or continue alienating the voters of Michigan and Florida and give the election to John McCain.
Why should she get 10 more delegates? He didn't run, his name wasn't on the ballot, voters knew this, some didn't come out to vote because of this, I am really tired of this. Split it 50-50 and then move on.
Why even have rules if they aren't going to be followed.
Only 10 delegates more for Hillary!!! Obama was stupid to take his name off the ballot and I don't accept the idea that HIllary should pay for his mistake.
Speak up on this neighbors in Michigan!
Why is it that Obama supporter's or better described "Hillary Haters" want to have their cake and eat it. They are quick to claim that we should follow the rules when it comes to Michigan and Florida and not seat their delegates at the convention, but when it comes to the possibility of the Super Delegates casting their vote for Hillary based on the rules for their mere existence { the discretion to cast a vote how they see is best for the Dems} they scream 'Stealing the Nomination", get a grip.
To change the rules now which CLINTON and OBAMA AGREED TO is injust and undemocratic. When we all agree and vote to abide for a structure of rules then that's democracy. If Michigan citizenry (and FL) felt that it is injust to not have their votes counted then the protest should have happened months before the primary season (OR HOW ABOUT AT THE MOMENT THAT THIS OCCURRED).
For Clinton and proponents to come-out now and call it unfair, wrong, unjust, to point the finger at Obama (I mean you Rendell), now is a total HYPOCRICY. I hope and pray that you stop giving false and misguided insinuations that MI and FL votes won't count. A primary is one thing which legally is in the hands of the party to decide; the protection under our constitution for a counted vote is referring to the General Election. I vote that we start implementing Civics back into our education system. And if you don't know then please don't open your mouths, cause like my elders would teach me, opinions without concrete knowledge is a display of stupidity. Sorry but its true.
That's garbage. She won the state, she should get them all. Obama made his own mistake by not putting himself on the ballot.
Awarding any delegates in this state is just crooked low down dirty politics. How can clinton claim that, after lying to the DNC and the other candidates by remaining on the ballot, people are being disenfranchised? She is cheating her fellow opponents, democrats and the country. Shame on you for continuing politics as usual.
It is rediculous to seat them 64-64. Just seating the delegates doesn't solve the problem, because although it gives Michigan representation, it doesn't represent the people who voted. And John edwards wasn't on the ballot either, so some of those uncommitted delegates might belong to him not Obama. They should just have a re-vote.
Leave it until after the primaries! If there isn't a decisive victory for either candidate at that time, then put forth your plan. But,don't try to influence the election unjustly in favor of Clinton because in reality Barack Obama is the one that played by the rules.
Do these Clintin folks know their math. 55% of 128 is 70 not 78!!!
The proposed compromise is quite fair and both groups should take it and do the same in Florida.
Based on the feedback I've received from my family (all Michigan voters), they're pretty ticked off that party officials have messed it up for them - they feel that their votes should count and that they should not suffer because of political infighting. Given the fact that the family is split between Obama and Clinton I can say I'm not speaking up here because I skew toward either candidate - my first care is ensuring a Democratic victory in the Fall, and I believe that it would be extremely shortsighted of the party not to consider the very important people of MI and FL.
Howard Dean stated on Larry King Live that he believed that the delegates would be seated in some fashion, which is great news for the voters, so hear hear.
Finally, I think it's wrong of the Obama camp to continue to try to block the delegates from those states just because the results don't go his way . I don't blame him for trying to maintain an edge, but what he's doing isn't right.
OK so awarding those delegates, (no matter how many) is not fair! What about the rules??? SO it's ok to change them in the middle of the road because she's losing??? NICE!! Boy this says a lot about America..you don't like rules, change them..Do you really think Barack would have been given this option? NO WAY..let's not disappoint Hillary though..after all, she's the queeen of America!! what BS!!!!
The only fair way to seat the delegates is to respect the will of the voters – that is, award 55% of the delegates to Clinton, and leave the remaining 45% unallocated.
If Obama didn't have the foresight to place his name on the ballot, then that's his mistake and he should not gain from it. The DNC should not bail out Obama from his own mistake.
More importantly, what does this say about the ability of Obama to manage the country's affairs? How can we expect hiom to have the foresight to manage our country's affairs when he doesn't have the foresight to predict the Michigan Debacle that was very obviously on its way? Only Hillary Clinton saw the writing on the wall, and this shows her ability to think ahead of the rest of the pack.
That is not a fair way to do it. You can't seat these delegates and give someone an edge-it's just not right! These people should be outraged at their state's Democratic leaders for putting them in this position–not the candidates!
50/50 or nothing. that is not fair for Obama
Exuse me! What? She only got 55% when she was the ONLY one on the ballet. That's very unfair. 50/50 or forget it!
Michigan and Florida should both count and this is the best proposal so far! 🙂
Obama cannot win the general election. He is an inauthentic, fatally flawed candidate with zero credibility. Wright got it right. Obama only says wht he has to say as a politician.
So, now or later!
Michigan and Florida should both count, and this is the best proposal so far! 🙂
Obama cannot win the general election. He is an inauthentic, fatally flawed candidate with zero credibility. Wright got it right. Obama only says wht he has to say as a politician.
So, now or later!
What part of "NO" do these people not understand?
50/50 or no deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds reasonable.
this is all a big fraud
the fix is on for hillary
Florida 50% each candidate and Michigan 50% each candidate, that is the correct way.