May 6th, 2008
06:54 PM ET
13 years ago
Schneider: The electability argument falls flat
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(CNN) - The core of Hillary Clinton’s argument to superdelegates has been her electability – that she is the candidate most likely to beat presumptive Republican nominee John McCain in November. But according to exit polls, voters don’t share that view.
In Indiana, Democratic primary voters were equally split over who was most likely to beat McCain, with both drawing 48 percent. And in North Carolina, voters gave the edge to Barack Obama: 54 percent thought he was more likely to win in November, while 40 percent chose Clinton.
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Great! That was another lie made by Hillary and the news-media!
Let's go Obama!
Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!
I love it! Just proves that those snap shot polls made up by Hillary is just a bunch of crap!!!
Now – let's keep this train rolling to Penn- Ave – Washington,D.C.
Go Obama!
I was thinking: because of the last few weeks and the controversies surrounding the democratic candidates, "Would the voters in the previous primaries change their vote from one candidate to the other?"
There has been a hot bed of information and questions regarding, in particular, Obama. Would they change their vote to Clinton?
Might be an interesting poll on CNN.
Might just be what the Democratic Party might be interested in.
[Though I confess, I think you support Obama – a VERY good speaker – but don't you want to know the truth?]
My greatest fear is that all those blue collar white voters will not support Obama in the fall. He will not carry the red states he has won delegates from in DEMOCRATIC caucases and that is the BIG PROBLEM everyone!! Why can't everyone see it? Hillary Clinton carries the swing voting whites and will get the African American vote with Obama's support as a VP. The Republicans are setting up the Democrats again for a squicker win in November. Obama cannot win the General Election in November, we are going to be stuck with McCain and Bush policies for another four years........PLEASE do not give the nomination to Obama. This seems like such common sense...and great fighting preview of the two democrats tonight between Paul and Donna...that is what we are going to face this summer. Guys....come on and lets elect a winner, not a runner up.
This is idiotic. The fact that voters think Obama's more electable doesn't mean he is. Look at the head-to-head matchups in swing states: FL, OH, PN. Hillary is much stronger than Obama, that's just a fact. Mind you, I'm a McCainiac, so I'm not complaining if you nominate the guy...
CNN underestimates the validity of the exit polls regarding the support Barack will receive from Hillary supporters in the general election.......
McCain '08.
NC Exit Polls by age and race:
White 17-29 = 56% Obama, 42% Clinton
White 30-44 = 43% Obama, 50% Clinton
White 45-59 = 34% Obama, 61% Clinton
White 60 & Older = 29% Obama, 69% Clinton
Black 17-29 = 93% Obama, 3% Clinton
Black 30-44 = 88% Obama, 7% Clinton
Black 45-59 = 94% Obama, 5% Clinton
Black 60 & older = 89% Obama, 6% Clinton
Black voters account for 30% of the North Carolina vote.
I'm surprised the electability issue gets so much talk,,, I've seen CNN "call" the election with less than 3% of the votes in,,,all the math and polls indicate Obama's the winner...just call it and stop the media madness!
Obama ! Yes we DID !!!
I agree with ABC. I won't speak ill of Obama. I was taught in Sunday School, don't believe everything you read. I give Obama the benefit of the doubt on his X pastor. I am suprised that it only seems that white people are called racist when 90% of blacks vote for Obama. I would have no problem voting democrat in Nov. if Hillary is not the nominee.
Obama has better chance of beating McCain in November.....
We have not even begun to see " the magnitude of dislike for Hilary"
by Republicans and more conservative voters,,
The entire Rush Limbaugh "Chaos" strategy is because
Republicans know Obama will be more difficult to beat....
Tho many Republicans, may vote for McCain their disdain , disapproval of Obama is much much less and some will even consider voting for him
Democrats are in serious trouble if Hilary wins nomination
with regard to beating MCCain
J
Boston Ma
The republican media and strategy ceases to amaze me. It is a known fact that the reason that Obama has the lead is because many republicans are voting democratic in this primary. They are fixing he campaign in favor of Obama because he is an easy kill. They also have the media in their pockets, calling the election for Obama in NC before a considerable amount of votes were counted. Yet Indiana is still up for grabs.
The DNC also deserves credit for their stupid decisions on Florida and Michigan. It is all one big mess because these idiots in the DNC falling for the republican bait. Not to mention the somewhat subtle little race card that the Obama campaign has played all along that has the party teetering on a divisive catastrophe. It really looks like the republicans are gonna pull this thing off and get McCain elected. Let's face it Obama is fresh meat for the republican predator.
We ran a local "poll" and over 80% of Dem's say they will cross over and vote for McCain if Obama wins the nomination. I was in the other 20%. I believe we as Dem's may be looking at another 4 years of Republican rule!
That funny!!!!
CNN still on the Obama band wagon!!!! What polls are they looking at?
Hillary going to win Indiana which he was ahead by 10 points and it was in his back yard?, the only reason she losing NC, because Obama got over 90% of the African votes? What is CNN talking about? Obama still lost with all major groups except for younger kids? If anything he lost more white men this time around..... CNN stop being the Obama network and report the facts on the ground.... If it wasn't for the African American voting 90% for Obama this race wouldn't be close right now......
Barak Obama wins – 1 man against 4. Barak is fighting the campaigns of Hillary, Bill and Chelsea Clinton plus the Constitution Violater – Rush Limbaugh.
Doesn't Limbaugh realize that it is against the law to tamper with elections?
THe Republican Machine will go at Obama like sharks if he is the nominee – mark my words – we will be left with John McCain and Obama will be history. This rock star baloney will fail in Novemeber.
Oh yeah! In our local "Poll" they believe that if yoy counted Florida that Clinton would be the winner and this would make a big difference in Nov.
"I think that most people know the gig is up for her and that any self-respecting person plays by the rules. . ."
And the rules are that the super delegates get to decide this one. The Obama supporters should not try to change those rules at this stage of the race.
If you don't like those rules, change them in time for the next primaries.
CNN in the bag for Obama.
What I do not understand is why do people who have only had white men (both parents) run for president, thereby getting 100% of their parties white vote, have such a problem with 90% of black people voting for Barak (half white). What are they actually saying? Let's be very clear, Barak did not make this abour race. The white media (they control) did, they started breaking down polls by race.
The fact is that not only black people but people of all races (which make up America) are voting for Barak.
It is time to wake up and see who you really are, and stop hiding behind the comments of someone else who may or may not have their own issues with race.
Yes We Can.........Barack is just not sure how.
The rhetoric continues.
If not Hillary, than McCain '08!
What a breakthrough North Carolina! You have taken Senator Barack Obama to the next level. He will give hope to many in N.C. who have been left out by the wealthy and well connected. You voted for the change we need. We are one America. Having practiced medicine in N.C., I have the audacious hope that Obama will bring about access to quality healthcare to all Carolina families. I am for Obama because he is the candidate representing the future better America and not looking to do business as usual. America, this truly our moment. Now lets get him to that House at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
The truth always prevails in the long run. One of my prayers is that as a people committed to a better USA for our children & grandchildren as well as ourselves we stop promoting those who are getting rich thru divisive ,hate mongering masked as journalism & entertainment(including Limbaugh,Hannity & negative rap masquerading as music !) Onward & Upward for all in the USA !!!
IT WAS WEL SAID HILLAR BROKE HER ANGLES AND THE BIG BROWN CAME IN FIRST.
I've never voted Republican in my life...if Obama is the Democratic nominee, I will vote for McCain.
Dems in the "big" states will ultimately vote dem regardless of who the nominee is because that's what they do–they vote democratic. Lots of independents would vote for Obama. Not many independents would vote for HRC. Obama is more electable.