May 8th, 2008
08:17 AM ET
14 years ago

Michigan Dems send latest delegate plan to DNC

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/POLITICS/05/06/primaries.change/art.voting.flag.in.ap.jpg caption="Michigan Democrats have accepted a new compromise."](CNN) - Michigan’s Democrats have accepted a compromise proposal in their latest attempt to ensure their state will be represented at this summer’s Democratic National Convention, CNN has confirmed.

The state party has voted to sign on to a plan devised a week-and-a-half ago by the working group seeking ways to end the impasse, including Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Sen. Carl Levin, Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger.

The group urged the Democratic National Committee to seat the Michigan delegation under a formula that would give a 10-delegate edge to Hillary Clinton, and allow all 157 delegates and superdelegates to be seated this summer.

Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in the state’s January contest, which she won with 55 percent of the vote. No delegates were awarded because of national party penalties on Michigan Democrats for moving up their primary date. Forty percent of January’s primary voters chose the “uncommitted” option on the ballot; a majority of those “uncommitted” delegates are backing Barack Obama.

Clinton’s campaign has said that the results of the January vote – which would give her an 18-delegate edge, 73-55 – should count. Obama’s campaign had said the delegates should be split evenly, 64-64. Another compromise plan submitted by DNC member Joel Ferguson – which would have given half a vote to each pledged delegate, and a full vote to each superdelegate – had been opposed by the Michigan working group.

Under the latest proposal adopted by the state party, which splits the difference between the Obama and Clinton proposals, the state’s 128 pledged delegates would be split 69-59, with the majority going to Hillary Clinton. Michigan Democrats has asked the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee – which meets at the end of the month – to consider the plan.

If both campaigns do not agree on the compromise, the issue will head to the DNC’s Credentials Committee for a resolution.


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soundoff (395 Responses)
  1. hahaha

    Clinton can have that 10 delegate edge that Michigan is proposing. It will not improve her situation whatsoever; In fact, the more delegates Obama receives, the closer he is to the finish line. This is a laugher.

    May 8, 2008 08:44 am at 8:44 am |
  2. Ed, Santa Fe NM

    does anyone play by the rules anymore? why should Hillary get a majority of votes from an election that never happened? Stupid plan.

    May 8, 2008 08:44 am at 8:44 am |
  3. RON

    This is not Fair....

    They would have to vote again.... plain and simple......

    May 8, 2008 08:45 am at 8:45 am |
  4. miles

    50 50 or no deal

    May 8, 2008 08:45 am at 8:45 am |
  5. Joyce in Florida

    Well, it appears that Senator Obama needs to make a decision on this one. Do we think he can do it? I'm not sure. This might be a tough decision for him (LOL). Let's see if he will accept this and not keep blocking the will of the voters anymore. Time for Obama to stop dividing our party and stalling efforts of this presidential campaign. Come on Senator Obama, step up and do what is right; that is if you really can. Next stop FLORIDA. I still continue to donate funds and support Hillary Clinton because I believe she will be the true nominee in the end. GO HILLARY 08!!!!!!!

    May 8, 2008 08:45 am at 8:45 am |
  6. Marshall

    "Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in the state’s January contest, which she won with 55 percent of the vote. No delegates were awarded because of national party penalties on Michigan Democrats for moving up their primary date."

    Just two examples of people not following the rules or doing what they said they would.

    Justice is Justice. Fire the Party bosses, but no delegates. Sorry, you broke the rules.

    May 8, 2008 08:45 am at 8:45 am |
  7. Mike

    I noticed, under the headline" "On The Trail," it speaks of the candidates campaigning and the respective cities, (all but Barry).

    It states that Barry will spend the day in Washington; what is Michelle doing, trying to select china patterns, drapes and trying to determine which guest room will be for BO-PRAH?

    Go Hillary!!!!

    May 8, 2008 08:45 am at 8:45 am |
  8. CP

    I don't see how it is fair for Clinton to get the majority when Obama was not on ticket. Not that it matters anyway because Obama will still be ahead anyway. Clinton has manipulated this whole voting process and the DNC (and Media) are letting her get away with it.

    May 8, 2008 08:46 am at 8:46 am |
  9. Dana in north Carolina

    Not a perfect solution, not completely fair because Barack was not even on the ballot, but better than nothingfor both, and the slight edge for Hillary won't hurt Obama in the end.

    May 8, 2008 08:46 am at 8:46 am |
  10. MrSod

    The DNC screwed up- they should have followed GOP's lead and made FL and MI be worth half instead of eliminated altogether.
    But it's too late now and I'm not sure any plan beyond a complete revote (which aparently will take too long) will be fair.

    May 8, 2008 08:47 am at 8:47 am |
  11. CINCINNATI, OHIO

    Leave it alone Billary....you are such a sore looser. The game is over and you cant add extra innings.

    What about the people who didnt even show up to vote since he was not on the ballot?? Bow out gracefully, while you have to chance to muster up some type of respect.

    Stop working for the Republicans. Since you know you dont have a chance, you want to make sure he doesnt either.

    If they hand the general election to you, they risk the African American, young voters and first time voters who will think that there vote does not count and will not vote in the general election. Dont forget it was the African Americans who put Bill in officer, after all we make up 25% of the votes in the general election...you need it and wont get it.

    May 8, 2008 08:48 am at 8:48 am |
  12. s.b.

    Nothing like arbitrarily overturning an election whenever you feel like it.

    The Dems don't deserve to win Michigan or Florida in Nov if they do this and I now think the US Supreme call made the right decision in 2000.

    Democrats obviously don't care about votes or elections at all.

    May 8, 2008 08:48 am at 8:48 am |
  13. Ray H, Gainesville VA

    Not sure how much it matters now but they should be split 50-50–fair and square. You shouldn't penalize the person who agreed with the rules of the DNC nor should you award a victory to someone who agreed with the rules of the DNC but who now says they shouldn't apply. Nuff said on this.

    May 8, 2008 08:49 am at 8:49 am |
  14. fred

    Hillary should get MI and FL votes as they are. Obama took his name off the MI ballot...that is his problem (dumb). FL he ran ads....against the party rules. They should stand as they are and be counted. Otherwise you are giving it to Obama. Obama will never win in the General Election.

    Most of us Hillary Democrats will either vote for McCain or write Hillary in!!

    McCain is a lot closer to what Hillary believes than Obama!!
    Let Obama have the black, college students and educated????(they must not be too bright). He can't win without us and he won't have us. I don't care if the race stops today, I will never, ever vote for him and his Anti-America wife!!!

    May 8, 2008 08:49 am at 8:49 am |
  15. LT for Obama

    It should be a 50/50 split. There was not campaigning and Obama was not on the ballot. Based in that, there can be no other fair way to split the pledged delegates.

    May 8, 2008 08:49 am at 8:49 am |
  16. Greg, NY

    At this point, they should just do it. Obama would still be in the lead in states won, delegates won, popular vote and gaining in superdelegates.

    This would shut everyone up about the Michigan and Florida issue and leave less and less arguments for Hillary to stay in the race.

    Hopefully if they do this, Michigan and Florida voters will stop saying they were disenfranchised and support the Democratic candidate in the fall.

    May 8, 2008 08:49 am at 8:49 am |
  17. Ivey League

    The delegate count is irreverent at this point.

    The problem is that Michigan and Florida should have some sort of "punishment" for moving up their election date. The DNC has stated that the delegate count should be cut in half.

    That's the real rules. I would oppose ALL delegates being seated. There is an article in which Michigan's Clinton supporters stated that this was their plan from the start.

    I expect that the DNC or Barack will "rightfully" decline this offer.

    May 8, 2008 08:50 am at 8:50 am |
  18. Status QuO.

    If the DNC silences the voices coming out of Michigan and Florida Democrats will lose the White House once again. They must be heard. No matter what the outcome, it's un-Patriotic not to count their votes.

    May 8, 2008 08:51 am at 8:51 am |
  19. Incoming Sniper Fire

    The results don't and should not count but if we have to please Michigan...sounds fair to me.

    May 8, 2008 08:51 am at 8:51 am |
  20. Susie

    Howard Dean and the whole DNC need to step down and allow someone who cares about this country to try to solve this issue. There is no way to resolve the issue so that someone does not feel slighted. However, since Obama blocked the revote, he should gracefully accept the vote tally as it was counted-73 for Clinton, 55 uncommitted. Put the names of the prospective uncommitted delegates in a bowl and draw names; those delegates (like unpledged delegates) could determine for themselves whom to support. The Democrats need Michigan in November; this would allow their votes to count. Dividing them equally is the same as not counting them. Perhaps Obama would prefer to draw names for all delegates (and those in Florida) and allow the delegates to decide whom to support.

    May 8, 2008 08:52 am at 8:52 am |
  21. mr g

    THEY BROKE THE RULES AND THEY DO NOT DESERVE TO BE SEATED. BILLARY NEED THIS HELP AND SHE HAD SIGNED OFF ON NOT SEATING THEM WHEN SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO WIN, AND NOW SHE FLIPPING OVER. STAND DOWN HILLARY AND LEAVE WITH SOME RESPECT.

    May 8, 2008 08:52 am at 8:52 am |
  22. Derrick in Houston, TX

    What part of YOUR VOTE DOESNT COUNT dont these people understand? You broke the rules. Deal with it. It is unfair to go back and readjust the rules for the sake of HILLARY CLINTON and getting her extra delegates.

    May 8, 2008 08:52 am at 8:52 am |
  23. Debbie

    Hillary supporters you can't get any fairer than this and she still loses.

    May 8, 2008 08:53 am at 8:53 am |
  24. Rob

    The delegates should be seated. These people voted and most of them voted for Hillary. The votes have to be counted even if the delegates aren't seated. Because people still physically got up to support there candidate. It is not fair to Hillary espcially since the voting from Michigan and Florida easily give her the popular vote. And even though those states broke party rules you cannot ignore the votes that were cast. And those votes went to Hillary and they should be accepted for Hillary. It is the will of the people in those states. What has happened to democracy! ACCEPT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA!

    May 8, 2008 08:54 am at 8:54 am |
  25. Independent

    If the DNC is going to seat Michigan, then it must be a 50-50-split. Obama was not on the ballot. This seems to be being differential to Queen Hillary. 50-50 is the only fair way to handle Michigan to make all things equitable. If it is not 50-50 for Michigan, then they should not be seated period. They were the ones who broke the rules, and BOTH candidates signed off on those rules.

    May 8, 2008 08:54 am at 8:54 am |
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