May 8th, 2008
08:17 AM ET
14 years ago

Michigan Dems send latest delegate plan to DNC

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/POLITICS/05/06/primaries.change/art.voting.flag.in.ap.jpg caption="Michigan Democrats have accepted a new compromise."](CNN) - Michigan’s Democrats have accepted a compromise proposal in their latest attempt to ensure their state will be represented at this summer’s Democratic National Convention, CNN has confirmed.

The state party has voted to sign on to a plan devised a week-and-a-half ago by the working group seeking ways to end the impasse, including Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Sen. Carl Levin, Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger.

The group urged the Democratic National Committee to seat the Michigan delegation under a formula that would give a 10-delegate edge to Hillary Clinton, and allow all 157 delegates and superdelegates to be seated this summer.

Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in the state’s January contest, which she won with 55 percent of the vote. No delegates were awarded because of national party penalties on Michigan Democrats for moving up their primary date. Forty percent of January’s primary voters chose the “uncommitted” option on the ballot; a majority of those “uncommitted” delegates are backing Barack Obama.

Clinton’s campaign has said that the results of the January vote – which would give her an 18-delegate edge, 73-55 – should count. Obama’s campaign had said the delegates should be split evenly, 64-64. Another compromise plan submitted by DNC member Joel Ferguson – which would have given half a vote to each pledged delegate, and a full vote to each superdelegate – had been opposed by the Michigan working group.

Under the latest proposal adopted by the state party, which splits the difference between the Obama and Clinton proposals, the state’s 128 pledged delegates would be split 69-59, with the majority going to Hillary Clinton. Michigan Democrats has asked the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee – which meets at the end of the month – to consider the plan.

If both campaigns do not agree on the compromise, the issue will head to the DNC’s Credentials Committee for a resolution.


Filed under: Michigan
soundoff (395 Responses)
  1. South Africa

    Hi it's not about giving her a couple of delegates she will claim she win the state, she will the go on to convince the supper delegates she win the stats that count.

    Same strategy for Florida even if she only getting a couple of delegates thats not the real prize for her. It's to claim she win the big states that count. Even if it's not really a win but a handout.

    - Sneaky but then again what do you expect from her. -

    South Africa stands behind Obama, and from what I could gather so does the rest of the world. No I'm not black so don't make this into race. It's just conman sense.

    May 8, 2008 11:06 am at 11:06 am |
  2. kathe oakland, california

    You know I hear on MSNBC this morning a woman saying concerning Michigan that "FOR SOME REASON" Obama took his name off ballot???? Come on be fair. It was agreed once Michigan decided to go against the rules, by BOTH Hillary and Obama they would not be on ballot, they would not campaign there however, the divisive Hillary put her name on anyway.
    So Michigan – don't be fooled by Clinton or the media, Obama is not at fault and they all continue to try and focus blame on Obama because of your State going against the rules set down by DNC.

    You see this is another divisive tack by media and Hillary to turn everyone against Obama since he will be our Nominee. Now if you do not like him for whatever reason fine, but don't blame him for your Michigan voting and delegate woes.

    As Senator Obama says as part of his campaign – LET'S BE HONEST WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE and stop pandering, lying, using fear and racial overtones to win.
    Good Luck Michigan – it is my home state and Love all of you so be sure and
    VOTE OBAMA

    May 8, 2008 11:06 am at 11:06 am |
  3. FEDUP

    Hillary supporters unite, write her name on your ballot in November. The voters elected FDR with a write in, his name wasn't on the ballot. We can do it , Yes we can....

    May 8, 2008 11:06 am at 11:06 am |
  4. Ugo

    You know what, MI and FL can vote Republicans if they want. The can seat out if the want. How many times will FL screw the American democratic system? They got us in the 8-year long mess. So go ahead, vote McCain, vote Hillary if you want, continue your blatant recism against Obama if you want. In the end, you, myself and every American will have to deal with a G. Bush 3rd term in office. We all will suffer the economic woes. I am so sick and tired of you people. Go ahead and do whatever you feel like doing. Simple!!! You broke the freaking rules and you turn around to follow HRC pandaring. This is stupid!!!

    May 8, 2008 11:07 am at 11:07 am |
  5. IN decided

    Obama will be the next president of the United States.

    May 8, 2008 11:07 am at 11:07 am |
  6. Chuck, Oregonians for Obama

    Sorry, but I do not believe that the numbers would be that way if there was an actual election in Michigan where both candidates were able to campaign. If they are to be seated then it should be a 50/50 split.
    This state broke the rules and regardless of the reasons, they were warned; however they thumbed their nose at the DNC and did what they wanted any way. The candidates agreed to the final ruling and now Clinton who is now running on empty knows her only hope is to have those two states seated in her favor. They should be seated but with neither candidate having an edge. Fair is fair, and Hillary needs to recgonize she can not change that which she agreed upon. Had the tables been completely reversed she would be screaming foul in this situation and she needs to be a stand up politician, admit this and be FAIR about it.

    May 8, 2008 11:07 am at 11:07 am |
  7. Derek

    The DNC set up rules that MI and FL broke. When the punishment was levied, ALL of the candidates signed off on it. Now, Clinton wants MI and FL delegates seated. If Obama had won FL and MI instead of Clinton, does anyone think that Clinton would be fighting to have the delegates from FL and MI seated?

    May 8, 2008 11:08 am at 11:08 am |
  8. MICHIGANDER

    Sadam Hussain was the only name on his ballot as well – that doesn't mean the people wanted him to run the country!!!!!!!!!!

    May 8, 2008 11:08 am at 11:08 am |
  9. Andrea KC

    At this point of the game it doesn't matter. Give Hilary 10 more delegates from Michigan and divide the FL delegates based on the percentage each candidate won in the primary and lets end this thing once and for all. All this means is that Obama will have enough delegates to secure the nomination once and for all, Hilary and her supporters can stop whining, FL and MI will be counted and the party can finally unite.

    May 8, 2008 11:08 am at 11:08 am |
  10. Randy - Denver

    A simple solution
    Let Fl and Mi vote again, however they want, write a name on a npkin and send it in, only requirement is that the vote has to be notorized and signed to ensure that no one cheats too bad. count the votes and figure out the totals. Remove ALL supoerdelegates from these two states as they are the ones that caused the problems in the first place. Finally determine the percentage of votes for each candidate. If EITHER candidate gets a 60-40 margin win they get ALL the delegates otherwise a 50/50 split. Now everyone's vote counts right? Now for the PUNISHMENT PART for violating the rules. Each state only gets two (2) delegates total. Problems solved those who broke the rules will not effect the outcome unless it is that close and, more importanly, the whining stops!

    May 8, 2008 11:09 am at 11:09 am |
  11. Melissa, MI

    I would really like people who want Michigan's votes to count if they really care about the people of Michigan or if they just selfishly want their votes....I'm guessing the latter.

    May 8, 2008 11:09 am at 11:09 am |
  12. Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA

    Still sounds unfair and essentially undemocratic, to the extent that the severely flawed delegate process can ever hope to reflect the principle of one-person-one-vote. More of a moot deal to pacify the disenfranchised voters now that the nominee is clear. Makes me despise the Democrats' view of democracy even more.

    May 8, 2008 11:11 am at 11:11 am |
  13. Greg

    These results should not count.

    They broke the rules and they knew it beforehand.

    This would set a bad precedent if they allowed it.

    May 8, 2008 11:11 am at 11:11 am |
  14. Chris, Middletown, CT

    Huh?? her name was the only one on the ballot....everyone else pulled their names out....and she is rewarded with extra delegates?

    May 8, 2008 11:11 am at 11:11 am |
  15. Jim

    Unfortunately, Obama made the poor decision to not put his name on the Mich. ballot. Isn't this just proving what opponents have been saying about him? Isn't this similar to voting absent? He's showing that he doesn't care about the Mich. and FL. voters. Why doesn't the public see this?!!

    If he were Republican and did the same, there would be no doubt that most of you democrats would change your opinion. I pead with you, take the emotion out of this process and just use logic.

    I'm voting for logic!

    May 8, 2008 11:14 am at 11:14 am |
  16. b

    Let's face it, if the outcomes were reversed for Obama and Clinton, Obama would be out.

    Now it's time for Clinton to be out of the race, and Obama should be protected in a "Pope Mobile."

    Those Clintons are ruthless.

    May 8, 2008 11:14 am at 11:14 am |
  17. FLORIDA Voter for Barack Obama

    Split Michigan 50/50 and she can have the 10 delegates in Florida- Period

    And don't be confused – Down here in Florida we LOVE Barack Obama. If he had a chance to campaign here it would be a tie if not a victory for him. The old people would be her only major support.

    Hillary is full of monkey S***

    May 8, 2008 11:14 am at 11:14 am |
  18. kim

    BUSHLEAGUE!!!

    There were rules in this election, and Michigan chose not to follow them.

    There were rules about campaigning in Michigan, and Hillary chose not to follow them.

    Why on earth should she be rewarded with any delegates at all?! This is beyond me. Now we have to hold hands with michigan and florida, because they willfully disobeyed the rules?

    May 8, 2008 11:14 am at 11:14 am |
  19. Jeff in AL

    Bottom line to all of this..If Senator Obama is the nominee, many Clinton supporters will not support Obama in the general election. And that could be just enough to give the Republicans the White House.

    May 8, 2008 11:14 am at 11:14 am |
  20. Sandy

    This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen yet. She was the only name on the ballot!! How can you give the candidates anything but an even split? Does any Hillary supporter really believe that if the shoe was on the other foot, she would be jumping up and down now trying to ensure Michigan gets seated? Puhlease.

    May 8, 2008 11:16 am at 11:16 am |
  21. GoHillary

    Hmm buried deep within cnn the news on anything positive regarding Hillarys campaign appears. No Bias here!

    May 8, 2008 11:17 am at 11:17 am |
  22. Tom Newman

    As a Michigan democrat, I feel this is absurd. Everyone knew our votes would not count, and because of this most Democrats I know did not show up. To disenfanchise Michigan voters is to seat the delegates and count the fake votes. If there was a re-vote, Clinton would not win. Look to Michigan's primary voting history for proof.

    May 8, 2008 11:18 am at 11:18 am |
  23. whodat

    Obviosly,this is completely unacceptable and a waste of everyones time.Any solution will have to involve a revote.Although 10 delegates wouldn't give Hillary the edge even counting Florida so I guess it doesn't really matter.It's all over except the shouting.The bottom line is Obama will reach the 2025 before MI and FL are resolved.Game over!

    May 8, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
  24. Dee, MO

    So, I guess it okay for us to tell our kids that murder is not a bad thing. Because if we can change the rules to make the situation fitted then, its okay to lie. You really didn't mean to kill him when you pointed the gun at someones head. Oh....you were just playing!!!

    May 8, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
  25. Paul

    CNN refused to post on this blog an audio clip of Senator Clinton stating that Michigan votes would not count in response to a question about why she'd keep her name on the ballot despite MI breaking the rules.

    The clip can be Googled for anyone that's interested.

    May 8, 2008 11:19 am at 11:19 am |
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16