May 8th, 2008
08:17 AM ET
14 years ago

Michigan Dems send latest delegate plan to DNC

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/POLITICS/05/06/primaries.change/art.voting.flag.in.ap.jpg caption="Michigan Democrats have accepted a new compromise."](CNN) - Michigan’s Democrats have accepted a compromise proposal in their latest attempt to ensure their state will be represented at this summer’s Democratic National Convention, CNN has confirmed.

The state party has voted to sign on to a plan devised a week-and-a-half ago by the working group seeking ways to end the impasse, including Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Sen. Carl Levin, Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger.

The group urged the Democratic National Committee to seat the Michigan delegation under a formula that would give a 10-delegate edge to Hillary Clinton, and allow all 157 delegates and superdelegates to be seated this summer.

Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in the state’s January contest, which she won with 55 percent of the vote. No delegates were awarded because of national party penalties on Michigan Democrats for moving up their primary date. Forty percent of January’s primary voters chose the “uncommitted” option on the ballot; a majority of those “uncommitted” delegates are backing Barack Obama.

Clinton’s campaign has said that the results of the January vote – which would give her an 18-delegate edge, 73-55 – should count. Obama’s campaign had said the delegates should be split evenly, 64-64. Another compromise plan submitted by DNC member Joel Ferguson – which would have given half a vote to each pledged delegate, and a full vote to each superdelegate – had been opposed by the Michigan working group.

Under the latest proposal adopted by the state party, which splits the difference between the Obama and Clinton proposals, the state’s 128 pledged delegates would be split 69-59, with the majority going to Hillary Clinton. Michigan Democrats has asked the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee – which meets at the end of the month – to consider the plan.

If both campaigns do not agree on the compromise, the issue will head to the DNC’s Credentials Committee for a resolution.


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soundoff (395 Responses)
  1. Danny

    Who care about no name in ballot.....Obama the one pull out his name
    if you real want to be President you have to put your name in every states.
    All votes should to Hillary in Michigan and Florida.

    May 8, 2008 11:37 am at 11:37 am |
  2. A CANUCK

    Clinton can't see "the writing on the wall"........Limbaugh is using reverse psychology on the super delegates.....the media won't inform the public about PAUL V. CLINTON.......WHAT A CIRCUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Hang in there Obama.....your the only sane one !!

    May 8, 2008 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  3. Dylan

    Still not fair. I seriously doubt that, had there been a fair election in Michigan, that Hillary would have netted 10 delegates on Obama... especially in a midwestern state with a large black population and a lot of universities.

    But maybe it's time to accept the proposal just to shut Hillary up. Even with Michigan and Florida Obama still has an insurmountable lead.

    May 8, 2008 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  4. Evie

    Don't you all know? Hillary, her majesty, is ABOVE the rules... they don't apply to her. So she can take anything she wants. At least that's the impression the DNC is giving her.

    There are some pretty powerful people backing the Clintons, & the Clintons will OWE them, big time. Scary to think what will happen if she steals the election like Bush did.

    May 8, 2008 11:38 am at 11:38 am |
  5. Richard

    This is stupid, stick to the rules... no rules = cheating and anarchy

    May 8, 2008 11:39 am at 11:39 am |
  6. Rob K.

    There needs to be a penalty and a compromise. That solution doesn't sound like a penalty and no compromise. Cut the delegates in half and split them 50-50 is the only fair way. If not, then what is to stop them from doing it again.
    This is Michigan's fault and not that of the DNC nor the responsible voter delegations of the other 48 states. I hope that they don't corrupt this process.

    May 8, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  7. EDW

    Giving her an automatic 10 point lead? What did she devise this plan and then had Michigan submit it.
    BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY – THE CLINTONS.

    May 8, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  8. Zack

    Uh... even if she gets a 10 delegate edge, the fact that Obama leads by more than 150 delegates makes that edge a moot point.

    May 8, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  9. beekaboo

    Absolutely wrong to count the votes or split the votes.............no fair changing the rules "after the fact'. I agree with everyone who says that the DNC made the rules and they have to live with the effects of their decision..

    May 8, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  10. Angela

    If Hillary get's awarded the proposed delegates from Michgan and from Florida , she wins the nomination and the majority vote. Like it or not Obama supporters, she is still, and will continue to be this country's choice of of Democratic candidates.

    May 8, 2008 11:40 am at 11:40 am |
  11. Emit

    Well, who was still in the race when Michigan should have gone to the polls. Think it was down to either just the two of them, or maybe Edwards was still in. Not sure the date that the DNC wanted the primary.

    That should factor into how to split up the votes, if that is how to properly do it.

    Personally, after MI tried to do this in 2004, and then did it in 2008, they don't deserve to have their votes counted. The people need to elect new state representation that allowed for this situation to even come up. Bunch of stupid lawyers that can't follow rules.

    May 8, 2008 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  12. Tyler in Raleigh, NC

    So breaking rules, cheating, lying are all OK as long as you change the rules AFTER THE FACT to fit the situation??

    Where do you stop..... theft? murder?

    MI and FL (I am from FL) broke the rules. People learn to follow the rules because there are PENALTIES involved, if we let them have their votes... then why have rules?

    Just let anarchy reign.... because even if you break rules there are no consequences!

    May 8, 2008 11:43 am at 11:43 am |
  13. so ironic

    Look, the bottom line is that these contests were contested unfairly!!

    Not to just the candidates but also the VOTERS TOO!!

    No cadidates could actively campaign in the state and the results were not supposed to count. Some voters stayed home because they were told their cote will not count.

    ONLY HILLARY wins in any scenario that counts these votes. Obama, Edwards ( who was still running at the time) and the voters who didn't vote, all get screwed here.

    These were flawed contests that cannot be counted. MI and FL will vote in the General Election which is MORE IMPORTANT!

    May 8, 2008 11:44 am at 11:44 am |
  14. Anna

    Why do I get the impression if Obama were Edwards and Edwards was this far ahead that the Clinton camp would have no argument. Edwards is white so of course he can win. Clinton is white so of course she can win.

    My point is, the Clinton campaign is using the color of Obamas skin to bolster there arguments and it sounds really, really bad.

    May 8, 2008 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
  15. Dave

    Fifty Fifty or Nothing at all! HilLIARy is just trying to get her way again.... give me MI and FL.... I DESERVE THEM both! Somebody needs to explain how "Rules" work! Lie, Cheat and Steal..... that's the way to win it HilLIARy!

    May 8, 2008 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
  16. John Doe

    Divide the delegates 50/50 the rule is the rule. We can not be sending president Carter to other Countries to monitor elections then we do something so bad during our elections.SHAME SHAME SHAME.

    May 8, 2008 11:45 am at 11:45 am |
  17. TF

    This is insane. She could barely beat NO ONE in a Soviet-style election, and now she wants to be rewarded for it.

    THIS IS STILL AMERICA. WE DON'T COUNT ELECTIONS WITH ONLY ONE PERSON ON THE BALLOT.

    It's amazing that Hillary supporters would throw our democratic principles, the very foundation of this country itself, in the garbage if it meant helping their candidate. How does this not bother you???

    May 8, 2008 11:46 am at 11:46 am |
  18. soy

    Either a revote is done with only registered democrats or thats it. The officials of this state broke the rules and thats it. The vote in Jan shouldn't count for anything. YES I SAID IT. It should count for nothing.

    May 8, 2008 11:47 am at 11:47 am |
  19. Washington girl

    No way...I know 10 delegates won't help her, but if the DNC were to accept these terms for Michigan they would have to work a deal with Florida.

    Those state leaders need to learn their lesson, and their constituents needs to show them they are not happy.

    May 8, 2008 11:48 am at 11:48 am |
  20. Cheryll

    While I am for Obama and yes Hillary is on record saying that both of the those states did not count and she signed her name, at this point it does not matter. She has faught a long and yes sometimes dirty race but the race was for the presidency. I would say Obama needs to give the 10. It will show America what kind of person he really is. Then with Florida I would say split it. It is not the people's fault and if I was them I would be mad at the politicians that put them in the mess they are in. We have got to all come together here and we have got to keep McCain out. Women need to wake up and see that he is trying to squash Roe vs Wade so if Hillary is not going to be the Nominee you need to get with Obama or I am tellig you, you and the blue collars will be in trouble. Sometimes we have to open our eyes and realize where we are at in history and do the right thing for America and the world and put down our fears and predjudices. Obama, is a man that can see both worlds black and white, rich and poor because he is that, he is just not a black man we have a unique situation here are we going to ruin it?

    May 8, 2008 11:49 am at 11:49 am |
  21. Well

    This is such a mess. Between MI, FL and the DNC committe, they have jacked this entire primary up. MI and FL clearly broke the rules but now they want their votes to count? C'mon..what's wrong with this picture???
    If I were a resident of those two states, I would try my hardest to throw the DNC leaders out of their positions. They messed this up.
    I don't blame Clinton not do I blame Obama. It was the leaders of those two states who decided to break the rules.

    But in the end, if Clinton gets a 10 point delegate edge, will it really matter? Wouldn't she still be behind in the popular vote and pledged delegates?

    May 8, 2008 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
  22. Christo Saunders

    How do they say 50 plus 1 is a win?

    She does not care if she only gain 2 more delegate votes from MI and FL in the end.

    She wants to claim she win the states that counts according to her. And it’s not about how many states only the ones she wins counts? Makes you think….

    How sad to think the rules might be broken for her sake. If it was the other way around she would have fight not to have it count because of the rules.

    I think she’s only still in the race because of all her lies and people petty her.

    Even if they say lets have them vote over she already portrayed Obama as the bad person that wanted to exclude the votes of millions in MI and FL. This would not be fair to Obama who only played by the rules in the first place.

    If it’s that important to have them count then make it fair and split it 50/50 because 50 plus 1 is a win?

    May 8, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
  23. therealist

    Michiagan plus Florida equals a Hillary win and the destruction of the DNC..., oh may!!!

    May 8, 2008 11:51 am at 11:51 am |
  24. Matt

    I don't see how Obama gets ANY of the delegates, seeing how know one actually voted for him. It was his decision to have his name removed from the ballot. Voting uncommitted doesn't automatically mean a vote for Obama. I would like to know how many people making this decision are actual Obama supporters as opposed to Clinton supporters.

    May 8, 2008 11:53 am at 11:53 am |
  25. William in California

    This solution doesn't make much sense. It's probably one of the fairest so far but a little arbitrary. I think that half delegate solution is better but whatever.

    I'm for this solution as long as Hilary doesn't hold a parade for her "Big Win" in Michigan. That's my only issue.

    I think it's silly to claim victory in these beauty contests when she has the name recognition.

    Also Hilary supporters keep saying Obama campaigned in Florida and I have been watching a lot of CNN and have never heard that. It makes me wonder if this is a wonderful internet rumor started on the blogs.

    May 8, 2008 11:54 am at 11:54 am |
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