May 8th, 2008
08:17 AM ET
14 years ago

Michigan Dems send latest delegate plan to DNC

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/POLITICS/05/06/primaries.change/art.voting.flag.in.ap.jpg caption="Michigan Democrats have accepted a new compromise."](CNN) - Michigan’s Democrats have accepted a compromise proposal in their latest attempt to ensure their state will be represented at this summer’s Democratic National Convention, CNN has confirmed.

The state party has voted to sign on to a plan devised a week-and-a-half ago by the working group seeking ways to end the impasse, including Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Sen. Carl Levin, Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger.

The group urged the Democratic National Committee to seat the Michigan delegation under a formula that would give a 10-delegate edge to Hillary Clinton, and allow all 157 delegates and superdelegates to be seated this summer.

Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in the state’s January contest, which she won with 55 percent of the vote. No delegates were awarded because of national party penalties on Michigan Democrats for moving up their primary date. Forty percent of January’s primary voters chose the “uncommitted” option on the ballot; a majority of those “uncommitted” delegates are backing Barack Obama.

Clinton’s campaign has said that the results of the January vote – which would give her an 18-delegate edge, 73-55 – should count. Obama’s campaign had said the delegates should be split evenly, 64-64. Another compromise plan submitted by DNC member Joel Ferguson – which would have given half a vote to each pledged delegate, and a full vote to each superdelegate – had been opposed by the Michigan working group.

Under the latest proposal adopted by the state party, which splits the difference between the Obama and Clinton proposals, the state’s 128 pledged delegates would be split 69-59, with the majority going to Hillary Clinton. Michigan Democrats has asked the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee – which meets at the end of the month – to consider the plan.

If both campaigns do not agree on the compromise, the issue will head to the DNC’s Credentials Committee for a resolution.


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soundoff (395 Responses)
  1. Janey for Hillary

    I think Hillary should be getting all of the delegates since she had the foresight to know that this might happen..just another example of Obama inexperience and not caring at all about the Mich voters because of their "red state" status. He should consider this a huge gift from the DNC.

    May 8, 2008 11:56 am at 11:56 am |
  2. David from Canada

    Not fair, pile of crap really. Should be 50/50 with no potential for any deligates to "switch sides" at the convention.

    May 8, 2008 11:58 am at 11:58 am |
  3. Krissy--- Austin, TX

    Just let her have the stupid 10 delegates so she'll stop whining about Michigan.
    And give her the delegates (a compromise of delegates) in Florida too. maybe then she'll finally understand that no matter what math she uses SHE CAN'T WIN.
    If she doesn't have Michigan and Florida to whine about, she has no argument to say that she should be allowed to stay in the race (what? so puerto rico can vote??)

    May 8, 2008 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm |
  4. Terry in New York

    if they want to be counted it should be a 50-50 split of the delegates because there's no way you can tell what the outcome would have been had real campaigns went on there.

    May 8, 2008 12:03 pm at 12:03 pm |
  5. Tim in NC

    This is crap! Unless there are EXPLICIT instructions as to how the delegates will be voting and who they will be voting for, there is nothing saying they can't all vote for whoever they want (As Clinton pointed out last month).

    They broke the rules, now they have to deal with it! If those state Democratic leaders still have their jobs next election cycle, then the people of Michigan are either gulible or naive. The blame rests squarely on the state leaders not the national ones.

    Suck it up people!, its not going to happen, and this proposal is not even CLOSE to fair.

    May 8, 2008 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  6. marie

    Hillary should not have to pay for bad judgement on the part of Obamas campaign–I will never vote for him-he does not care about Mich. If he is such a fair person, why did he leave his name on the ballot in Florida? This man can't seem to make a decision of any kind. He campaigned in ads in Florida illegally and should get none of the votes there either. Hillary did not campaign and still won. Let's be fair . The DNC should not pander to Obama.

    May 8, 2008 12:04 pm at 12:04 pm |
  7. Allan-4-Obama

    Nonsense!! 50-50 or NOTHING

    May 8, 2008 12:06 pm at 12:06 pm |
  8. FreedomFromFear-Florida

    I DO NOT WANT A PARTY THAT BREAKS OR BENDS THE RULES!
    WHY SHOULD A CANDIDATE BE PUNISHED FOR FOLLOWING THE RULES? ... BUT... IF YOU ARE GOING TO BEND TO HILLARY'S DEMANDS/DESPERATION.... RETAIN SOME DIGNITY AND BE RESIDUALLY FAIR!!! ALLOCATE 50% TO EACH OR... AWARD EACH CANDIDATE, THE PERCENTAGE OF SUPER DELEGATES ACCORDING TO THE COLLECTIVE VOTES EACH HAS WON FROM THE DEMOCRATIC (NOT REPUBLICAN) VOTERS. FreedomFrom Fear-Florida

    May 8, 2008 12:07 pm at 12:07 pm |
  9. sick of it , Georgia

    I think that the DNC should not amend the rules to satify Hillary Clinton, the rules were broken and that's that, If Obama had broke the rules then he too, shouldnot be rewarded. Don't blame Obama for what happen, he followed the rules and Clinton didn't, is this the type of president we want one like Bush who can break the rules,and make up the rules as you go along,no, that why we are in the condition we are in today,nobody plays along with the rules. Hillary needs to give it up.

    May 8, 2008 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm |
  10. Phoebe TN

    I am so sick and tired of hearing about the Michigan and Florida delegates should be counted because they would be disenfranchising these voters. Did anyone think beyond MI and FL? Do these people think about how much the other states who followed these rules would be disenfranchised because others are trying to push their own agendas? This issue has nothing to do with making the voters voices heard. This is about a nominee who suffers from the entitlement syndrome. Clinton will do anything, no matter how devisive, to get in the White House. If there is a brokered convention then we Dems can hang up our chances of winning the WH. Too many other voters will not vote (I.E. blacks, young voters, etc.) because they will feel disenfrancised. See the bigger picture. The voice of the people has been heard and we want Obama! The sooner Clinton and her supports get that through their heads the quicker we can get down to the business of putting another Democrat in the White House and getting our country back on track.

    May 8, 2008 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm |
  11. South Carolina

    Rules are rules and no one should break them. Hillary is a sore loser and a baby and needs to be in diapers.

    May 8, 2008 12:11 pm at 12:11 pm |
  12. close hi lies piehole

    Hillary knew exactly what transpired / rules in both Michigan and Florida they broke the rules ...............

    Hillary wants to change all rules just to benefit her interests she don 't give a hoot about rules or anybody its her way or NO way.
    Its screw you.
    If all her actions dont wake you up to what type person she is what will it take to make you see her underhanded tactics. and lies.

    May 8, 2008 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm |
  13. Tea Party

    How about "no?" Does "no" work for you?

    May 8, 2008 12:13 pm at 12:13 pm |
  14. Xango

    this is fair to w hom??
    to clinton

    the fair thting to do by the books and all is

    50 and 50

    why is she still here anyway, we have our nomineee
    unless she decides to do something which she is now threatening to do with the October surprised..........

    the clintons will do anything, so i say, I hope senator Obama gets all the secret service he can (just that have not worked for the clintons) and all security our country can afford them, sometimes the enemy is not far away.............

    she is crazy

    May 8, 2008 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  15. HH

    Give her the 10 delagates so she shuts up.

    Matter of fact give her both. That way she will still be behind, and easier to kick her out the door.

    May 8, 2008 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  16. Darrell

    I will never vote for the White Racist Obama who raised his family in a Church that hates America and Hates whites he is half white his mother was whiat I guess he was ashamed of that. He is freinds with Farakahn "The Black Muslum Nation" that hates whites and Jews. His wife hates America and she would be our first lady wake up America!!!

    May 8, 2008 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm |
  17. Heather in Ohio

    Why should the deligates be counted for two states that decided to disregard what the DNC wanted? They knew what would happen if they held their elections early. If Michigan gets their way, will Florida be next? What will happen the next time during a primary year? How many states will do what they want because they know they wont be punished? You have rules for a reason. Everyone should play by them!

    May 8, 2008 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm |
  18. Darrell

    I am from Florida I voted I want my votes to count we have 50 states last time I looked not 48 if the DNC dose not allow us to vote and count our votes then we will vote Republican

    May 8, 2008 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm |
  19. bonnie

    the ones that decided on an early vote are in fact mostly republican , dont you get it . this was a plan all along. they knew it was the only way to take the votes away from clinton, so what better idea than to wipe out the whole state,they wanted obama, and the dnc let this happened. so now we will have a republican in the white house.i will vote for mccain over obama the democratic party will wish they handled it better for not letting those two states vote count.i guess you can call this pay back.

    May 8, 2008 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  20. JRC

    All of you people that are saying you will write in Hillary or Hillary should run as an Independent might as well just be honest about it and vote for McCain. Your plan will benefit no one but the Republicans.

    May 8, 2008 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  21. PaJC

    This seems a reasonable compromise. I wondered about having 1/2 the delegates seated to recognize 1) Michigan is a big state throwing its weight around, but 2) it did flout rules that everyone agreed to.

    A 10 delegate advantage in MI gives 53.1% Clinton, 46.9% Obama. If Obama had been on the ballot or campaigned in the state the spread would probably be closer, since he has closed the gap in every other state. The 10 delegate advantage seems a fair representation of this.

    May 8, 2008 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  22. Darrell

    Hey Idiots the people in Florida had no say in this so why are we being penalized we voted this is all slanted to elect a white hating president

    May 8, 2008 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  23. FactCheck

    > I would vote for her and Millions of others! Obama would get his butt kicked!

    Like he did in the primaries? Oh wait, that's right...

    May 8, 2008 12:19 pm at 12:19 pm |
  24. A Real Democrat

    This should be simple; either give them half the delegates or don't seat the superdelegates because THEY are the ones who scerwed it up anyhow and just have the pledged delegates. Stop blaming Obama. He didn't make them move the dates up and mess up your chances. I would block a revote because they were going to make it a closed primary in MI (which it was open before) AND the people who voted before wouldn't be allowed to do it again, so they couldn't change their minds. In addition, you're right he did take his name off the ballot...so did EVERYONE ELSE BUT CLINTON. Now in FL, YOUR legislators said you couldn't do a mail in, its against the law AND they also said no machines would be available FOR a revote even if they wanted to do it. So I'm going to need you to get all the information before you argue its all his fault. Stop listening to Clinton and pay attention, as its obvious, she's not always totally honest about the whole situation. If she cared so much about your votes, she wouldn't have agreed to not have them count in the first place.

    May 8, 2008 12:20 pm at 12:20 pm |
  25. FreedomFromFear-Florida

    I was very SAD that our votes would not count in FLORIDA. If I had voted for Hillary, I would have been ashamed and kicking myself ROYALLY! Thank God I did not! TO THINK – of the LIES and MANIPULATIONS OF TRUTH, the KITCHEN SINKS AND PANDERING, the ATTACKS and SHOTS UNDER THE BELTS, to say nothing of the closed meetings in which I am sure a good bit of ARM TWISTING of SUPERDELEGATES has gone on. Perhaps even with 3 am calls. .....yikes! This is definitely the biggest mistake I could have made. I must FORGIVE myself and HILLARY, maybe when she STOPS. .... Right, SHE IS STILL AT IT. Thank you reader for your "ear". NOW, LET's PRAY for the rest that seem to be as misled and DANGEROUS as I was! ONE SUGGESTION: Hillary could go run for GOVERNOR of NEW YORK, heard that there is need there and Bill would be in FAMILIAR COMPANY.

    May 8, 2008 12:21 pm at 12:21 pm |
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