May 8th, 2008
08:17 AM ET
14 years ago

Michigan Dems send latest delegate plan to DNC

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/POLITICS/05/06/primaries.change/art.voting.flag.in.ap.jpg caption="Michigan Democrats have accepted a new compromise."](CNN) - Michigan’s Democrats have accepted a compromise proposal in their latest attempt to ensure their state will be represented at this summer’s Democratic National Convention, CNN has confirmed.

The state party has voted to sign on to a plan devised a week-and-a-half ago by the working group seeking ways to end the impasse, including Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Sen. Carl Levin, Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger.

The group urged the Democratic National Committee to seat the Michigan delegation under a formula that would give a 10-delegate edge to Hillary Clinton, and allow all 157 delegates and superdelegates to be seated this summer.

Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in the state’s January contest, which she won with 55 percent of the vote. No delegates were awarded because of national party penalties on Michigan Democrats for moving up their primary date. Forty percent of January’s primary voters chose the “uncommitted” option on the ballot; a majority of those “uncommitted” delegates are backing Barack Obama.

Clinton’s campaign has said that the results of the January vote – which would give her an 18-delegate edge, 73-55 – should count. Obama’s campaign had said the delegates should be split evenly, 64-64. Another compromise plan submitted by DNC member Joel Ferguson – which would have given half a vote to each pledged delegate, and a full vote to each superdelegate – had been opposed by the Michigan working group.

Under the latest proposal adopted by the state party, which splits the difference between the Obama and Clinton proposals, the state’s 128 pledged delegates would be split 69-59, with the majority going to Hillary Clinton. Michigan Democrats has asked the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee – which meets at the end of the month – to consider the plan.

If both campaigns do not agree on the compromise, the issue will head to the DNC’s Credentials Committee for a resolution.


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soundoff (395 Responses)
  1. JRC

    Hey Darrell, did the Clintons tell you those fairytales? Instead of listening to them why don't you do some research on your own? Oh wait, you probably don't know how.

    May 8, 2008 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  2. Theresa

    Do Whatever who care, Hillary knew that Flordia and Michigan was not gone to count in the beginning. When you are winning its okay when you are losing you want your votes.

    May 8, 2008 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  3. Carol, WI

    Well, a true re-vote would not conclude with a 10-delegate lead for Hillary as I believe the vote would be close due to the strong support Obama gets in the populated areas, but go ahead and give it to her. I am worn out with the FL/MI debate. Even though this still disinfranshises voters who would have voted for Obama, it will not make a difference anyway.

    For those who say Obama is dividing the party by not allowing a re-vote earlier, it is simply not true. The re-vote proposal in MI was to only allow those who previously voted Democrat to vote again. There were many who either did not vote (there were no other measures on their ballot besides the presidential primary) or they voted Republican. This re-vote would still have disinfranchised voters, just not Hillary's voters. At this point, it just does not matter. Once the FL/MI argument is settled, I am sure there will be some other goalpost for Hillary to stay in the race. I guess she is taking the term 'race for the White House' literally.

    May 8, 2008 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  4. Martin Howell

    I AM FROM MICHIGAN. Plain and simple my peers and I did not vote in the primary because it was literally impossible to vote for our candidate Barack Obama. Hillary makes no sense. Use logic people it's over.

    May 8, 2008 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  5. Darrell

    Simple new elections in both states just do it

    May 8, 2008 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
  6. SOPHIA,23, FLORIDA VOTER

    WHY IS THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN INSISTING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE DELEGATES IN MICHIGAN SHOULD GO TO HER WHEN OBAMA'S NAME WASN'T EVEN ON THE BALLOT?

    THE DNC SET UP RULES THAT SHOULD BE FOLLOWED AND CLINTON DIDN'T FIGHT FOR THEM UNTIL SHE REALIZED SHE WAS LOSING!

    May 8, 2008 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
  7. Green

    That would put Obama around 1904 delegates.... and if FL does something similar, he'll even be closer to the nomination... delegates from the remaining primaries and some of the remaining superdelegates will put him over the top. I say let Clinton shoot herself in the foot and let the MI and FL delegates get seated.

    May 8, 2008 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  8. Navy Vet.

    You know, initially I was for 50/50 or a full revote, but as close as Sen. Obama is to winning this thing outright I'm good with 55/45. Considering Sen. Clinton would need to win all the other states by like 85/15, it merely ends this fiasco that much sooner and we can get on to McCain.

    Obama '08

    Yes We Can

    May 8, 2008 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  9. Dee

    I love this plan. Let her get the 10 delegate edge lol. I think its a great idea. We all know that many of Hillary's supporters won't support Obama for "reasons" that are just too plain. Whatever we can do to reach out to the rest of those poor "misguided" souls, I'm all for it.

    May 8, 2008 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm |
  10. Kris

    I also live in Florida and I want my vote to count. If the rule's hold, then why did they even open up voting in these two states? Why did I go to the polls to begin with?

    May 8, 2008 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm |
  11. jimmy vekmen

    22% APPROVAL RATING FOR PELOSI LED DEMOCRATIC
    CONGRESS. THAT IS LOWER THAN THE APPROVAL RATING FOR PRESIDENT BUSH.

    May 8, 2008 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
  12. Darrell

    Look at Obama he attended a White Hatting America Hatting Church for 20 years he rased his family in that chuch if he where white he would of been run out of town but becuse he is half black he will not be run out of town. Oh yes I mentioned half black he is not African American his mother was white and he went to that church now lets talk about family vaules

    May 8, 2008 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
  13. Suraj

    This is not good.... they are trying to steal this election......if it was obama doing this to the democratic party......it would have been the last time a Black person running for president

    If this is allowed the required # of deligates for the nomination will also be increased to the new clinton # and that will leave Obama at the hands of the Super...

    God Bless America....

    May 8, 2008 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm |
  14. Jim from San Jose

    Go ahead and seat the delegation with a 10 delegate advantage to Hillary. It won't make any difference. She's 160 delegates behind and fading fast. Another 10 won't stop the fall or change the race or alter the outcome of Barack Obama as the nominee. I can't wait for June 4th.

    And now for Florida....

    May 8, 2008 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm |
  15. tommy

    "we play by the rules that were handed" He Can't be refering to Sen. Clinton.

    obama 08

    May 8, 2008 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm |
  16. maya

    US OF A 50 STATES, NOT 48 OBAMA CAN'T WIN.

    May 8, 2008 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
  17. LaMarr

    if michigan and florida delgates don't count, then why does the nominee still need 2025 delegates? don't Obama already have the nomination won?

    May 8, 2008 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm |
  18. Bitter in Texas

    Darrwll and all ya'll that want your votes to count...your state officials need to LEARN TO PLAY BY THE RULES....if you don't like the DNC rules, then by all means vote Republican! I'm oh so tired of your whinning!

    May 8, 2008 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm |
  19. Jon McKinney

    Voters from Michigan and Florida. Why did you wait till now to decide you wanted your votes counted. You could have stop the politicians that got you in this mess. You knew the rules, you knew the consequences. If you want your vote to count, vote out the politicians that broke the DNC rules and nullified your vote.

    May 8, 2008 12:36 pm at 12:36 pm |
  20. Dee

    Obama is up by 160 votes. Counting Michigan and Florida would shut the hillbillies up and still give Obama the lead in pledged delegates, popular vote, and states won. Shut the hillbillies up, cause you know they'd never vote for Obama anyways lol. I still think he has a rough time in November due to the hillbillies. They don't like him in them dar parts lol. It would get rid of the nonsense being talked about though lol.

    May 8, 2008 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm |
  21. Doyle - MI

    'Rules are rules' they should not attempt to use the Michigan resulting vote counts 'in anyway shape or form.' Many of us did not vote because we were told the vote would not count. I also believe some of the voters that voted for Clinton would have voted for Edwards or Obama if their names were on the ballot.

    If the proposal of splitting the delegates with Clinton getting ten more delegates than Obama was accepted, this is based on the election results. This would amount to the Democratic Party lying to the people on Michigan when they said the vote wouldn't count.

    If they wish seat the Michigan or Florida delegates without having a new vote it should be a equal split of the delegates.

    May 8, 2008 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm |
  22. Dee

    People think the hillbilies won't try to hurt themselves in the pocket book instead of voting for someone that fundamentally agrees with them? They will. They don't like Obama's tan lol. However, if we can get enough of them to support Obama by doing this, maybe he can win.

    May 8, 2008 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm |
  23. Tim

    Hillary didn't really seem to care about Michigan and Florida voters when she signed a pledge to not campaign there and agreed with the punishment laid out by the DNC. Why would anyone vote for a candidate who goes back on her promises and pledges? Most people knows she's not trustworthy, the polling data says as much. I think some of the die-hard Hillary supporters need to let go of the idea of her winning at all costs and do what's best for the party and the country.

    May 8, 2008 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm |
  24. White, auto worker, non h.s., 56yr old, catholic from MI

    White, auto worker, 56yr old, non h.s.,catholic from MI

    Hillary needs to win by 65 – 35 in all the remaining elections.

    She needs to win 60-40 (3 – 2) for super delegates.

    Even I can figure out the math. I am supposed to be dumb as I am an old whitey with no education.

    As far as MI and FL, it would be a different story if Obama was,
    1.) On the ballot in MI
    2.) If he campaigned in FL.
    and
    3.) If HRC had resisted the issue before the primary.

    Hill: Drop out dear its not worth it.

    May 8, 2008 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
  25. Dee

    You know your a hillbilly if you're for Hillary 🙂

    May 8, 2008 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
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