May 8th, 2008
08:17 AM ET
14 years ago

Michigan Dems send latest delegate plan to DNC

[cnn-photo-caption image= http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/POLITICS/05/06/primaries.change/art.voting.flag.in.ap.jpg caption="Michigan Democrats have accepted a new compromise."](CNN) - Michigan’s Democrats have accepted a compromise proposal in their latest attempt to ensure their state will be represented at this summer’s Democratic National Convention, CNN has confirmed.

The state party has voted to sign on to a plan devised a week-and-a-half ago by the working group seeking ways to end the impasse, including Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Sen. Carl Levin, Democratic National Committee Member Debbie Dingell and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger.

The group urged the Democratic National Committee to seat the Michigan delegation under a formula that would give a 10-delegate edge to Hillary Clinton, and allow all 157 delegates and superdelegates to be seated this summer.

Clinton was the only major candidate to appear on the ballot in the state’s January contest, which she won with 55 percent of the vote. No delegates were awarded because of national party penalties on Michigan Democrats for moving up their primary date. Forty percent of January’s primary voters chose the “uncommitted” option on the ballot; a majority of those “uncommitted” delegates are backing Barack Obama.

Clinton’s campaign has said that the results of the January vote – which would give her an 18-delegate edge, 73-55 – should count. Obama’s campaign had said the delegates should be split evenly, 64-64. Another compromise plan submitted by DNC member Joel Ferguson – which would have given half a vote to each pledged delegate, and a full vote to each superdelegate – had been opposed by the Michigan working group.

Under the latest proposal adopted by the state party, which splits the difference between the Obama and Clinton proposals, the state’s 128 pledged delegates would be split 69-59, with the majority going to Hillary Clinton. Michigan Democrats has asked the Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws Committee – which meets at the end of the month – to consider the plan.

If both campaigns do not agree on the compromise, the issue will head to the DNC’s Credentials Committee for a resolution.


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  1. John, Georgia

    I'm not knowledgeable about how Michigan Democrats ended up with the too-early-to-count primary date. However, in Florida it was the REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR who set the primary date too early per DNC rules. For at least Florida's delegates, the Democrats should not allow themselves to be hamstrung by more of the typical Republican dirty tricks. Let's count the Florida votes as the voters voted!!!
    And if it's true that Obama pulled his name off the Michigan ballot, then let the non-Clinton delegates be seated as "undecided" but give Hillary the delegates that the Michigan voters awarded to her.

    May 8, 2008 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  2. close hi lies piehole

    Did you hear this comment when asked if Obama would pick Hillary as a V P ?
    Answer
    If Obama picked Hillary he would need a food taster .

    May 8, 2008 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm |
  3. Dal

    Sorry but majority of Hillarys supporters are the ones who do not have education beyond the 12th grade. If only they could reason and understand what Hillary is doing they will leave her and support the other candidate BARACK OBAMA.

    May 8, 2008 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm |
  4. ps

    Darrell WROTE May 8th, 2008 12:18 pm ET

    "I am from Florida I voted I want my votes to count we have 50 states last time I looked not 48 if the DNC dose not allow us to vote and count our votes then we will vote Republican"

    Darrell, Florida ruined the chance for the DNC to win in 2000 " Hanging chads", and it is doing it again. When is FL going to grow up. Remember it is one of 50 states and it is going GOP anyway in November.

    May 8, 2008 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm |
  5. Dem in Florida

    I am from Florida and I voted, but I went in doing it symbolically knowing my vote wouldn't count. I am fine with that. I will actually be more upset with the Democratic Party if they try to finagle a way to seat the MI and FL delegations.

    If my parents had changed their mind everytime they disciplined me as a child, just because I said it wasn't fair, I would have less respect for them. This is the same thing I feel about the Democratic Party. The rules were set by the DNC, rules were broken by FL & MI, disciplinary action was taken, and we should accept our punishment with grace.

    If we, as FL & MI voters, should be mad at anyone, it should be our local state officials. We should focus our anger at them, and vote THEM out of office next time, but we should not focus our ire on either of these fine candidates (Clinton or Obama) or the DNC for this mess.

    May 8, 2008 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  6. An American in Canada

    I HOPE THAT THEIR IS A REVOTE AND BECAUSE OF BARACK OBAMA'S FIGHT AGAINST THIS REVOTE THAT THE CITIZENS OF MICHIGAN COME OUT IN FORCE AND SUPPORT H.R. CLINTON IN THE 75 PERCENTILE.

    OBAMA, I HAVE THE LEAD WE DO NOT NEED FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN HAVING THEIR SAY, I HAVE THE LEAD ALREADY...

    48 STATES OUT OF 50 THAT IS ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT HAVE VOTED........................BARACK TURNED HIS BACK ON YOU AND CLINTON HAD TO FIGHT HARD TO GET YOU BACK INTO THE FOLD, TO BE COUNTED AS AMERICANS WITH A RIGHT TO VOTE!

    H.R. CLINTON PRESIDENT 2009

    May 8, 2008 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  7. sharon from CT

    great for michigan that they have proposed a plan.

    however, who is to say that hillary would have won an extra 10 delegates?

    it should be shared 50/50

    May 8, 2008 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  8. wisconsin

    Hillary sould drop out.

    May 8, 2008 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  9. NEVER obama

    You people are so stupid. Don't you know McCain would never beat Hillary Clinton.

    May 8, 2008 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  10. joan from orlando

    Whatever happened to, " We the PEOPLE?" In Florida, 3 million of us went to the polls. WE did not have a choice in the primary date. Both candidates were on the ballot and there was a record turnout due not only to the popularity of the candidates, but proposed drastic changes to our property owners taxes. (That REALLY got people out) The point is-we the PEOPLE exercised out mandate to vote on a day we had no control over. No matter what your political preference- don't the voices of those 3 million have a right to be heard.? Its not, "we the DNC!!"Its the voice of the PEOPLE that matter! I want my vote to count and not in some hairbrained scheme to dilute our choice. We can vote the legislature out next election, but to disenfranchise us from this important decision is FAR too heavy a price to pay for the foolishness of a few local politicians.

    May 8, 2008 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  11. stacy

    Perhaps Hillary Clinton will reposture and run on Independent
    ticket and all those who want a real president can vote for her outside
    youth, African Americans and elitest no matter the race, there is at
    least 45% plus who have already expressed their choice in the primary.

    May 8, 2008 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  12. close hi lies piehole

    Carol They never tell the complete details about the Michigan,Florida as you have printed them on here.

    They just tell what they want to so it will make Obama look bad when the truth is they leave half of it out as they are Hillary fallowers.

    May 8, 2008 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
  13. MM

    Why are people saying that Hillary should get an edge? I just don't get it why the Clinton people don't GET IT. It wasn't supposed to count. She agreed to it not counting. Leaving her name on the ballot had NOTHING to do with wanting to help Michigan. She left it there so she could play it both ways. It was neither Clinton or Obama's fault that Michigan is not being seated. Neither campaigned there. Neither made the rules. Clinton's suggestions for a re-vote were to be based upon private money - definitely a problem with that! The delagates should be split 50-50. Now let's move on and stop discussing this!

    May 8, 2008 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm |
  14. LYNETTE IN CA

    50 / 50 – There's no other way! That goes for Florida too!

    May 8, 2008 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  15. Nick - Astoria, NY

    Citizens from Florida and Michigan should've written to their respective State authorities that they were against breaking the DNC rules. Furthermore, what business did the Republican Governor of Florida have sticking his nose in DNC affairs?

    Regardless, the rules were broken; consequences must follow. What good are rules and regulations if States think they can break them at a whim?

    May 8, 2008 12:59 pm at 12:59 pm |
  16. Meg

    Before the Florida and Michigan primaries, Hillary Clinton agreed that neither state's delegates would be counted. Now she is jumping up and down like a two year old saying they should be counted. Someone please get the hook – the party needs her to go home ASAP!
    Oh, and by the way, I am a 68 year old white woman with a doctorate: I am for Obama. All my women friends are for Obama. Who are these mysterious older white women Clinton claims support her?

    May 8, 2008 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  17. A white woman for Obama

    IA, NE, MO, NDak are only a few of the long list of states won by Obama.
    Surprisingly states with young, older, white, black, hispanic, asian, across the board voters. Dare I say these states have a higher white & rural population, but yet Obama still won.

    This is blantent denial on Hillary's part. While Hillary is raising her fists about FL and MI, let's not forget the other states she counts out, because she lost.
    Caucus states matter, small states matter, all states matter.
    Count FL and MI – of course. Obama still wins in the end.

    May 8, 2008 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  18. Alley

    Why not seat the delegates of both states in an uncommitted status & let them vote however they decide, and then take away the superdelegates that caused this mess in the first place? Then the two state are represented, the idiots that started the mess are punished, and no one candidate is unfairly favored by the way they are seated.

    May 8, 2008 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  19. Mary

    This is America. We beleive that we all have the right to vote and have it count as you inteded. It is that simple. By the way 55% is 86 delegates.

    May 8, 2008 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  20. BCNU purple state, usa

    Hillary's next attempt at mathematics will include a formula to recalculate delegates based on black voters ballots only counting as 3/5 of a vote.

    Watch for it.

    May 8, 2008 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  21. Michigan Voter

    Has anyone asked the residents of the state of Michigan what they want to do? I for one think you either spit it 50/50 or nothing. Why should Hillary get 10 more simply because her name was on the ballot. Many people did not even vote because they figured there was not point, I mean it wasn't going to count, right?
    It's seems funny that the people that screwed this thing up in the first place and the ones that get to try to fix it. The residents of Michigan should be the ones that decide how this ends.

    May 8, 2008 01:04 pm at 1:04 pm |
  22. Oregon has Hope and wants change

    Hillary Huckabee is really going to try and steal this election…..

    You guys are out of your mind if you think the the one state that screwed it up for the democrats in 2000 should be the deciders in this race????

    Come on ……

    No one got to campaign in Florida, Hill did break the rules on that one too, they said she was there……………………….

    Maybe even Edwards would have done better if he was able to campaign there, and I know Obama would have done better as well.

    Michigan had people not even bother voting since the state we'll just call the democratic election here a beauty contest, and Obama was not even on the ballot…….

    If the DNC does this, There will be a lot of Americans who will protest…

    May 8, 2008 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  23. mitchell from arkansaw

    SPLIT THE DELEGATES EVENLY,AND LET THE SUPERS VOTE HOW THEY WANT!anything else is unfair to obama.

    May 8, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  24. A New Mexican

    We all want the candidate who we think is the best to win... but come on... if we are all truly Democrats or at least sick of the republicans lets unite and put whichever candidate gets the nomination in the white house. I will vote for either Hillary or Obama. Either Democrat in the white house is better than a republican. If people are truly behind the ideals of their candidate then they should vote democrat in the general election.

    May 8, 2008 01:09 pm at 1:09 pm |
  25. Joyce

    I don't get these Obama supporters at all.

    One posted bluntly that Hilary supporters voting for McCain instead will be replaced by cross over Repubs and independents anyway, so screw them.

    Then there's this post about how Rush Limbaugh should be arrested for influencing Florida repubs into voting for Hilary (another baseless accusation). Isn't that contradictory? I thought you guys had it that they will cross over to your candidate and Hilary's supporters don't matter anyway?...

    One thing that truly worked for Obama are all these payed bloggers maligning and spreading lies and throwing vile remaks towards Hilary. Kids, like it or not Hilary's support and supporters are needed to win if he gets nominated – understood?! We're talking about millions of people, she's not that far behind in delegates nor popular votes. Imagine if half of that went the other way.

    So don't get cocky, childish mistake. He might win the battle but not the war.

    McCain isn't a bad candidate at all, he is playing party politics right now but he is not a stupid Bush by any stretch of the imagination. He could win this against Barrack if Obama's supporters continue to tick Hilary's supporters.

    Then again, she could get the nomination then we won't have to worry about winning Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

    I sure hope this gets posted.

    May 8, 2008 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
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